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    Image of quayzar quayzar
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    Yeah, I rather like that. #mercedesslsamg
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    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    Looks more clown shoe than hairbrush to me. "Our best car has a really long nose" still isn't sexy talk, though last time they forced the issue by drawing a penis on the bonnet of the SLR.

    Good packaging this is not... "Does it have significant flaws, most glaringly from the gearbox? Totally.

    Direct simple writing this is not. Is it Wes rephrasing blunt criticism to make it sound less glaringly negative? Totally. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/04/09

    @skierpage: How is this not simple and direct? It's an impressive, fast car with a few problems that, in the end, don't detract all the much from the total package. #mercedesslsamg
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    11/05/09

    @Wes Siler: Direct simple writing would be:
    "It is badly packaged. ... It has significant flaws, especially its gearbox."

    Thanks for the good review, honest feedback, and not bad writing. You just sounded as if you were trying to soften your criticisms with some wordplay. If you gonna write high-falutin', some people gonna notice. No worries. #mercedesslsamg
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    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    Great review as always.

    It's ugly, though. Why in God's name would Mercedes make a Crossfire its halo car? #mercedesslsamg
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    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    BTW, this will be the 2010 F1 Safety Car. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    "At speed...the SLS actually manifests some steering feel, mostly felt over bumps and cat's eyes rather than in corners, but that's OK, because the car is heavily biased toward oversteer so it's only really the rear you need to feel."

    I'm trying -- failing -- to find a way that could sound any more sellouty. Are you sure it wasn't a Snickers and an HJ? #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/04/09

    @beercheck: You know me, total sellout. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/04/09

    @Wes Siler: Yeah, I know. I'm criticizing the sentence and sentiment it expresses more than I am you. But, ya know....

    And I've done worse for an HJ.

    Plus, I freaking hate this car. #mercedesslsamg
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    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    #1 on my list of most pointless cars in the modern era. #mercedesslsamg
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    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    $200000 for Gullwing doors thinly disguised as a car?

    Nice Price! #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    Yeah, I would buy it, no questions asked. It's those damn doors. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    I must say, my attitudes towards Mercedes have changed in the past couple years. The CLK Black and this have made them attractive, engaging cars again. If only they would do a proper manual transmission, they might have a truly visceral car to brag about. Alas, all the attempts to make this a full-on track-focused driver's car are all-for-naught in my eyes without the driver being responsible for that 3rd pedal.

    As a self-described purist then, I am totally in love with this car's layout, looks and presence, but still disappointed by its total execution.
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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    Kinda off topic here but anyone else notice the German workers are always in blue overalls and pants? I want some of those. #mercedesslsamg
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    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    Beautiful car. I would take two of these over a LFA. Or just one with a trip to Germany and a sack of cheeseburgers. #mercedesslsamg
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    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    I like it.

    I like it a lot.

    I'll never, ever, be able to afford it. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    So, you're a slut for upward pivoting doors? Good to know.

    I get embarrassed when cars become cartoons of themselves, like the SLS has. The touchstone here, the 300SL, was made to a purpose, and made to look good. It had a huge performance envelope for the time, and just enough luxury so you could be sure you weren't just getting an old, freshened up race car.

    Car's like this make Corvettes seem understatedly elegant, and a phenomenal bargain. It's like the Crossfire backed up the DNA chain, and now we see the inbred results. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/04/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Amen. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    So, it doesn't just look really big; it is really big, then.

    ...and it's too bad the designers sort of just phoned in the rear end. The rest of the car, inside and out, is gorgeous.

    It's too bad that this car will probably still be obscenely expensive even when it hits the bottom of it's depreciation curve. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    Ah yes. The return of the true gullwing doors.

    I'm sick of people, including journos, who wrongly use that name on any car with non-conventional doors. Or just plain using the wrong word to describe doors. Especially when they describe the McMerc SLR as having gullwing doors. ARGH.

    Gullwings: the original MB 300 SLR, 300 SL, SLS, DeLorean, Gumpert, Bristol Fighter

    Scissor doors: Lamborghini Countach, Diablo, MurciƩlago, Spyker C8, C12, Bugatti EB110

    Butterfly doors: McLaren F1, Saleen S7, Enzo, McMerc SLR, countless race cars

    Swan doors: Aston Martin DB9, DBS, V8 Vantage, Rapide

    And finally, Koenigseggs do not have scissor doors. They have dihedral synchro-helix actuation doors.

    Next time I see someone misusing the nomenclature, I'm going to punch him in the face! A good thing too since I'll be at the LA Auto Show in a month!
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    11/04/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: I would love to see you yelling and screaming "ITS DIHEDRAL SYNCHRO-HELIX DOORS YOU WANKER!!" while beating them senseless with their own loafers. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Old Grimey Old Grimey
    11/04/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: The Cimbria SS and both versions of the Bradley GT also had gullwing doors. So did the Mercedes-Benz C-111. The Manta Montage T had butterfly doors IIRC, as did the McLaren M6 that inspired it. And what exactly is a "swan door"? #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/04/09

    @Old Grimey: It's like a conventional door, slightly, but noticeably angled upward so that the cars as low as Astons don't scrape the door edge against the high curb. #mercedesslsamg
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    11/04/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: I will try to find you at the LA show. So I can follow you around and thow my voice to people around you and also pay a few people to say the wrong door type around you. Don't worry I will make sure to throw my voice on the arresting police officers, so you get one last punch in before your tasered and taken away. That will be my fun for the day. #mercedesslsamg
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