The WSJ reports today (via Automotive News) Cerberus and GM are moving full-steam-ahead in their efforts to get a GM-Chrysler deal done by the end of October. Today also brings news Renault may have their hand in the cookie jar too, negotiating for one or more parts of Chrysler and leading to speculation the Auburn Hills, MI-based automaker could be divvied up among several companies: Basically the worst-case scenario envisioned when Cerberus Capital Management took over in 2007. Finally, we've got an unsubstantiated rumor engineering employees at Chrysler may be getting two months off sans pay beginning...drumroll please...November 1st. Coincidence? Maybe. Also, David Faber of CNBC had a chance to sit down with ChryslerCo CEO, Bob "The Builder" Nardelli; while we haven't had a chance to run through it in its entirety, hit the jump for the a full transcript of the CNBC interview with Nardelli. UPDATE: We now hear from a Chrysler source that rumors of an engineering furlough are not true; that's why we call them "rumors."
So what's Nardelli got to say about life, liberty and the pursuit of less losses for Cerberus? Here's the full transcript of his exclusive interview with CNBC's David Faber:
CNBC EXCLUSIVE: CNBC TRANSCRIPT: CNBC'S DAVID FABER SITS DOWN
WITH ROBERT NARDELLI, CHRYSLER CHAIRMAN & CEO, TODAY ON CNBC'S "WALL
STREET CRISIS: IS YOUR MONEY SAFE?"WHEN: Today, Thursday, October 16th at 8:40PM ET
WHERE: CNBC's "Wall Street Crisis: Is Your Money Safe?"
Following is the unofficial transcript of a CNBC EXCLUSIVE interview
with Robert Nardelli, Chrysler Chairman & CEO.All references must be sourced to CNBC
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FABER: THANK YOU MARK. YEAH WE ARE HERE ROBERT NARDELLI. MR. NARDELLI
THANKS FOR JOINING US.NARDELLI: THANK YOU. IT IS GREAT TO BE HERE.
FABER: ON THIS LOVELY EVENING WITH THE CRICKETS WITH THE BACKGROUND. LET
ME START OFF WITH THE HEADLINES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN SEEING, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR MORE THAN A WEEK NOW.
ARE YOU IN TALKS WITH GENERAL MOTORS? IS IT POSSIBLE CHRYSLER WILL GET
PURCHASED BY GM?NARDELLI: AS YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T COMMENT ON THOSE RUMORS OR
SPECULATION, DAVID, BUT I THINK IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE GLOBE, TODAY THEY
ANNOUNCED IN CHINA A CONSOLIDATION. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE
SPECULATIONS.WE'VE BEEN VERY OPEN ABOUT LOOKING FOR PARTNERS AND
CREATING ALLIANCES, VERY IMPORTANT FOR US. WE ANNOUNCED THE ONE WITH
NISSAN THAT WOULD GET US INTO A "B" PLATFORM, A SMALLER-SIZED VEHICLE.
IS IT SOMETHING WE CAN'T DO? SURELY NOT. WE HAVE GREAT ENGINEERS, WE'VE
GOT GREAT TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S A RACE.
IT'S A RACE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN RESPOND TO AN UNPRECEDENTED CHANGE IN
THE INDUSTRY AND CONSUMER DEMAND BY DOWNSIZING. SO BY BEING ABLE TO FORM
THESE ALLIANCES OR CREATE THESE PARTNERSHIPS, WE'RE TRYING TO FILL OUR
PORTFOLIO TO SUPPORT OUR DEALERS TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO OUR CUSTOMERS.FABER: THERE ARE SOME WHO SAY THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS FROM
CONSOLIDATION, FROM A GM AND CHRYSLER, THE SYNERGIES WOULD BE
CONSIDERABLY VERY LARGE. DO YOU AGREE?NARDELLI: WELL, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE U.S. INDUSTRY, WE STARTED THE
YEAR AT ABOUT 16.6 MILLION UNITS. WE FINISHED LAST MONTH AT 12.8. THE
PIN NUMBERS TODAY ARE AROUND 12 MILLION UNITS. I THINK IT JUST,
CERTAINLY, CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT FOR CONSOLIDATION, WHERE YOU CAN GET
SYNERGIES OF PRODUCTIVITY THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE,
NOT ONLY HERE IN THE U.S. MARKET, BUT ON A GLOBAL BASIS.FABER: TO THE EXTENT — AND I REALIZE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THE
TALKS, PER SE, TO THE EXTENT THERE ARE ANY, BUT WHEN THOSE KINDS OF
TALKS OCCUR,THEY CAN ALSO BE DISTRACTING. FOR MANAGEMENT, AND
POTENTIALLY FOR EMPLOYEES. ASSUMING THERE ARE TALKS GOING ON, IS IT
SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD APPROACH AND THEN WANT TO TRY TO GET AN ANSWER
TO IN A FAIRLY RAPID FASHION?NARDELLI: LET ME JUST SAY, I COULDN'T BE PROUDER OF OUR ORGANIZATION.
THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH A TREMENDOUS LEVEL OF ANXIETY. REMEMBER, THEY
FORMED A MERGER OF EQUALS, IF YOU WILL, A WHILE BACK. AND THEN ALL
OPTIONS WERE PUT ON THE TABLE IN SOME TIME, FEBRUARY, MARCH OF LAST
YEAR, AND THEN WE CONSUMMATED THE DEAL, IF YOU WILL, WITH CERBERUS.
AGAIN, I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER WITH CERBERUS AS OUR OWNERS AND STEVE
FEINBERG HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH, THE ENTIRE
ORGANIZATION. SO OUR PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH TREMENDOUS ANXIETY.
THEY'VE SEEN THE PEAKS, THEY'VE SEEN THE VALLEYS. NOT ONLY RECENTLY, BUT
THE HISTORY OF CHRYSLER, DAVID, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN ONE OF A LITTLE
BIT OF A ROLLER COASTER RIDE, WHERE WE'VE ALWAYS MANAGED TO COME OUT
WITH SOME BOLD, INTIMIDATING, COMMANDING DESIGNS. NEW TECHNOLOGIES,
INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO WHAT CUSTOMERS ARE LOOKING FOR. SO I THINK OUR
PEOPLE ARE VERY RESILIENT. AND WE JUST KEEP REASSURING THEM THAT OUR
RESPONSIBILITY IS TO RETURN CHRYSLER TO PROFITABILITY. WE FOCUS ON THAT
EVERY DAY. WE DO THAT BY MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT GREAT PRODUCT
CADENCE. WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INVESTING HEAVILY IN QUALITY. THAT OUR
QUALITY TODAY IS BETTER THAN YESTERDAY. NOT AS GOOD AS IT'S GOING TO BE
TOMORROW, SO THAT WE CAN REALLY CHANGE THE IMAGE, THE REPUTATION, THE
RELIABILITY, THE DURABILITY OF OUR VEHICLE, THAT THEN SUPPORTS OUR
DEALER NETWORK. A STRONG DEALER NETWORK, A LOYAL DEALER NETWORK, AND
THEN TRY TO RESPOND TO CONSUMER DEMAND.FABER: LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THE
PRICE OF OIL HAS DROPPED PRECIPITOUSLY. ONE WOULD IMAGINE THAT MIGHT BE
GOOD NEWS FOR YOUR INDUSTRY. ONE MIGHT IMAGINE THAT, BUT I CAN ALSO
IMAGINE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, IT MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE.NARDELLI: I THINK IN A NORMAL ENVIRONMENT, WE'D BE DOING A DANCE RIGHT
NOW AT UNDER $70, YOU KNOW, AROUND $3 PER GALLON. OBVIOUSLY, WHEN OIL
SPIKED, GASOLINE PRICES WENT UP TO $4. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE
OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN 2008.IF YOU THINK ABOUT AN ECONOMY THAT'S IN
TURMOIL, IF YOU THINK ABOUT AN INDUSTRY THAT'S SPIRALING DOWNWARD, $4 A
GALLON GAS HAS REALLY BEEN DWARFED BY THIS WHOLE ISSUE NOW OF CREDIT
AVAILABILITY FOR OUR CONSUMERS, CONSUMER CONFIDENCE, CONSUMERS' ABILITY
TO ACTUALLY GET INTO A VEHICLE. YOU'VE SEEN SOME FINANCING ARMs TODAY
ANNOUNCE, UNLESS YOU HAVE A FICA SCORE OF ABOUT 700, YOU WON'T QUALIFY.
A LOT OF NORMAL CUSTOMERS OUT THERE TODAY, DAVID, ARE 650, 670. AND SO
THOSE THAT HAVE ENOUGH INITIATIVE, ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO BUY A VEHICLE
MAY FIND THEMSELVES NOT QUALIFYING FOR A VEHICLE.FABER: SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT DESPITE THIS INCREDIBLE DROP IN OIL, WHICH
ONE WOULD IMAGINE WOULD BE GOOD NEWS FOR YOUR POTENTIAL BUYER, THE
CREDIT PROBLEM IS DWARFING THAT?NARDELLI: I THINK, NUMBER ONE, IT'S PARAMOUNT IN THE CONSUMER MIND RIGHT
NOW. I THINK IT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE FACING RELATIVE TO
OUR DEALER NETWORK, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO FINANCE THEM ON
THE WHOLESALE BASIS, THAT THEY STILL HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO RETAIL
FINANCING, AND SO WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD RELATIVE TO INCENTIVES TO MAKE
SURE THAT OUR CONSUMERS CAN GET INTO OUR VEHICLES. WE TRIED THAT EARLIER
THIS YEAR WITH REFUELING AMERICA.SO WE HAVE A LASER FOCUS ON OUR DEALERS
AND OUR CONSUMERS, OUR CUSTOMERS TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS,
CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, KIND OF OUT-OF-THE-BOX SOLUTIONS. BECAUSE AS A
PRIVATE EQUITY COMPANY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THINGS IN SOMEWHAT OF
AN UNTRADITIONAL MANNER.FABER: HOLD IT THERE. WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT THERE. I WANT TO TAKE A
BREAK AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO TALK WITH BOB NARDELLI, CHAIRMAN AND CEO OF
CHRYSLERFABER: WELCOME BACK TO CNBC, I'M DAVID FABER HERE IN KIAWAH ISLAND,
SOUTH CAROLINA, WHERE THE BUSINESS COUNCIL IS TAKING PLACE. I'VE BEEN
SPEAKING TO BOB NARDELLI, THE CHAIRMAN AND CEO OF CHRYSLER. WE'VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT THE CREDIT CRISIS HAS BEEN HAVING ON YOUR
BUYERS, WHO ARE UNABLE TO GET CREDIT TO BUY AUTOMOBILES. YOU MENTIONED
16.6 MILLION AUTO SALES. WHERE ARE WE HEADED? SOME SEE US HEADED AS LOW
AS 13 MILLION. IS THAT REALLY A POSSIBILITY?NARDELLI: I THINK THAT'S A VERY REAL POSSIBILITY. DAVID, WE STARTED THE
YEAR AT ABOUT 16.6. LAST NOVEMBER, TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A VERY
AGGRESSIVE, CONSERVATIVE PLAN FOR CHRYSLER, WE KIND OF PEGGED IT AT
15.5. SO WE THOUGHT WE WERE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE THROUGH THE FIRST
QUARTER. THEN WE SAW THIS UNPRECEDENTED AND PRECIPITOUS SPIRALING
DOWNWARD. LAST MONTH WE ENDED WITH SEASONALLY ADJUSTED RATE OF ABOUT
12.8. AGAIN, THERE ARE FORECASTS OUT THERE THAT THE YEAR COULD END AT 13
MILLION. RIGHT NOW THE PIN NUMBERS HAVE US JUST SLIGHTLY ABOVE 12
MILLION. SO JUST IMAGINE THE VOLUME CONTRACTION, JUST IN THE U.S.
MARKET.FABER: THAT'S SHOCKING. THAT'S OVER 4.5 MILLION CARS.
NARDELLI: IT IS. SO JUST TO PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT, THAT'S AS BIG AS ONE
OF THREE MANUFACTURERS IN DETROIT IS TODAY. SO WE'VE HAD TO,
UNFORTUNATELY, TAKE OUT ABOUT 1.1 MILLION EQUIVALENT UNITS OF CAPACITY.
WE'VE HAD TO AFFECT WELL OVER 25,000 FAMILIES AS A RESULT OF HAVING TO
RESIZE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BE COMPETITIVE THROUGH THIS TROUGH AND
COME OUT THE OTHER BIGGER, STRONGER, AND MORE FORMIDABLE. ONE OF THE
MOST GUT WRENCHING PARTS OF THIS JOB RIGHT NOW IS TO AFFECT PEOPLES
LIVES. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ASPIRE TO HOMES AND COLLEGE EDUCATIONS AND
SO FORTH. SO IT'S REALLY ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGES PARTS THAT I'VE HAD
TO GET MY ARMS AROUND IN THE LAST YEAR SINCE I'VE BEEN WITH —FABER: MANY CONSUMERS HAVE WATCHED THE STOCK MARKET DIVE OVER THESE LAST
THREE WEEKS, OCTOBER HAS BEEN WORSE THAN SEPTEMBER. I'VE BEEN SPEAKING
TO PEOPLE VERY CLOSE TO CONSUMER-RUN COMPANIES AND THEY SAY THEY'VE SEEN
A PRECIPITOUS DECLINE SINCE THE END OF SEPTEMBER. ARE YOU SEEING SIMILAR
KINDS OF THINGS?NARDELLI: I THINK CERTAINLY IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS OF OCTOBER.
WHAT I PROVED, DAVID, NO ONE IS IMMUNE FROM THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS THAT
WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. I SAW YOU AND JOHN THIS MORNING, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR
SEGMENT, AND I THINK HE FRAMED IT VERY APPROPRIATELY. I THINK YOU ASKED
HIM IF WE WERE HEADED FOR A RECESSION. HE SAID, I THINK WE'RE IN ONE.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE SEEING, AGAIN, AN UNBELIEVABLE CONTRACTION. AND
OBVIOUSLY THE SPECULATION AND THE RUMORS AROUND THAT IS KIND OF DUE
COURSE. IT'S NORMAL ANY TIME YOU HAVE THIS KIND OF ECONOMIC PRESSURE,
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE CONSOLIDATIONS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE PARTNERSHIPS,
ALLIANCES TO TRY AND OPTIMIZE AND GET PRODUCTIVITY AND SYNERGIES OF
TECHNOLOGY.FABER: BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'VE GOT TO OPTIMIZE YOUR COSTS ARE
WHEN YOUR IN DEMAND IS VARYING SO MUCH. IT MUST BE VERY DIFFICULT.NARDELLI: IT'S VERY CHALLENGING, PARTICULARLY IN THIS INDUSTRY BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A MATTER OF JUST CANCELING AN ORDER. YOU
KNOW, TO STOCK A SHELF AS IN RETAIL. WE'VE MADE HUGE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS
IN EXCESS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR A LOT OF THESE PLATFORMS. AND SO
WHEN YOU HAVE TO DOWNSIZE, OBVIOUSLY YOUR AMORTIZATION ON THE PHYSICAL
CAPITAL IN OUR FACILITIES, WORKING WITH THE SUPPLIER NETWORK IS
EXTREMELY CHALLENGING, DAVID.YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DID THE DUE DILIGENCE ON
CHRYSLER, WHAT WE SAW THERE'S ABOUT 1 MILLION PEOPLE DEPENDING ON OUR
SUCCESS.FABER: IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE SUPPLIERS.
NARDELLI: YOU LOOK AT NOT ONLY OUR DIRECT EMPLOYEES. YOU LOOK AT THE
DEALER NETWORK, 3,600 DEALERS AND THEIR FAMILIES, THE SUPPLIERS, THE
LOGISTICS, THE TRANSPORTATION, IT'S A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY. AND I HOPE
THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC, I HOPE THAT OUR LEADERS IN WASHINGTON
UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE PRESSURE THAT THE INDUSTRY IS UNDER
RIGHT NOW. AND CERTAINLY IT'S GONE FROM HOUSING TO BANKING AND I THINK,
UNFORTUNATELY, TRANSPORTATION IS FEELING THE BLUNT OF BOTH OF THOSE
SECTORS.FABER: I WANT TO END ON THAT. AND LET ME QUICKLY ASK YOU, IN 1979,
CHRYSLER GOT BAILED OUT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. $1.5 BILLION, A VERY
SMALL SUM IN CURRENT TERMS. IS IT POSSIBLE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THE HELP
OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGAIN?NARDELLI: WELL, I THINK THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING
WE KNOW HOW TO DO. WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY LINE ITEM WHILE AT THE SAME
TIME TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE A VERY STRONG PRODUCT CADENCE.
WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE CAFE
STANDARDS THAT HAVE PUT A TREMENDOUS FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THE AUTO
INDUSTRY. WE FULLY SUPPORT, DAVID, ENERGY INDEPENDENCE. WE SUPPORT THE
NEED FOR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE DRIVING HARD ON INNOVATION
AND TECHNOLOGY TO MEET BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL,
THOUGH, HOWEVER, AS WE TRY TO GAIN INDEPENDENCE ON OIL. WE'VE GOT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T BECOME DEPENDENT ON BATTERIES. OUR ENVY PROGRAM
WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SUPPORTING
FINANCIALLY, WORKING WITH THE ENTREPRENEURS TO CREATE THE BATTERY
TECHNOLOGIES HERE IN THE U.S. THAT ALLOWS US TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING.FABER: WE HAVE TO END IT THERE. OKAY. BOB, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NARDELLI: THANK YOU.
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