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New Camaro Owners Create Depressingly Long Pre-Delivery Inspection Checklist

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Some owners at fan-boy forum Camaro5 have created a depressingly long list of possible defects to look for at the dealer before taking delivery of their Chevy Camaro. 68 things to look for? Huh? Seriously? Wow. Full list below.

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***IMPORTANT NOTE*** The following list is compiled from various individuals who are mostly experiencing isolated incidents. These are not issues every individual is having with their Camaro. Again, these are ISOLATED incidents that have mostly occurred to single individuals. By the accounts of owners on this site, most Camaros that have been delivered have been without problems. Please keep in mind that every first year production vehicle has more issues than later production years. This list is meant to serve as a comprehensive (perhaps overly) checklist of things to check for upon delivery, and should not be interpreted as widespread quality-control issues with the 2010 Camaro.

Also note: This list is mainly a checklist for things wrong that a dealer can immediately fix. A broken transmission or bad drive-shaft from dropping the hammer on this beast is something that they won't know until it actually happens. Thank you for submitting all your issues.

001. Loose Bolts that hold fluid back causing leaks (ex: on oil pan, tranny fluid)
002. Trunk Locking mechanism (issues with opening w/o adding down pressure to top of trunk first and/or emergency release appears to be loose keeping the trunk from locking properly)
003. Loose plastic paneling around the 4-gauges cluster, launch control, cigarette power plug as well as Left and Right A-Pillars Trim Loose, sill trim loose, and dash pannel where doors and dash meet popping open.
004. Loose Spoiler/installed correctly (Re-torque Spoiler bolts)
005. Wiper transmission cable overheating from engine causing a short circuit.
006. Matching Headlight Halos strength. (one defective being dimmer then the other).
007. Mismatched paint on parts of the vehicle (including gas door). As well as paint runs or clear coat runs. Paint Chips.
008. Loose Rocker Panel "Chevrolet" causing it to peel off.
009. Minor Problem With Window Indexing.
010. Ambient Lighting on doors defective.
011. Bad radiator (leaks).
012. Hood release/latch issues (won't unhook to open the hood).
013. Gap at base of ONStar Antenna.
014. Battery cable routing near the starter has been done.
015. Digital Speedometer is off. Also keeps going on and off.
016. Bottom pulley shakes and needs replacement per dealer.
017. Broken tranny.
018. Ignition Mechanism Issue with key getting stuck in car.
019. Non RS taillights installed on RS equipped cars (all 4 of them).
020. Rocker Panel aligned with body and clipped in correctly.
021. Bumper rubs with body
022. Trunk opens with switch and remote
023. Correct speedo/tach gauge ring color
023. Ambient lighting on drivers door as bright as passenger door
024. Doors gaps /alignment
025. Dirt/bubbles in rally stripes
026. Door panel not scratched from seat belt.
027. Shift knobs wearing out extremely fast could be faulty material
028. AC system stops blowing cold air in random durations, most likely blockage in AC drainage and/or AC draining into the car instead of beneath it
029. Clunking noise in changing gears
030. Trunk opens with remote and laser cut key
031. USB drive and aux port works
032. Squeaky Breaks
033. GFX installed correctly
034. Rims and tires in good condition (coming off carrier in bad condition/damaged)
035. Check for damage in the interior, basic procedure
036. Check the locking mechanism of both doors
037. Scraping sound for a second when backing up
038. SS emblem on trunk is loose
039. Loose interior windshield trim loose
040. The front GFX lip is not coming loose at the double sided tape
041. The front passenger brake rotors are not wearing with a dark colored groove
042. Hood latch handle on inside of cab doesn't retract properly (just hangs)
043. Scratches in seats
044. Oil cooler leaking
045. Once in every 10-15 times I unlock the car, the drivers side door is still locked, while
the locking knob on the door is in the "up" position
046. Faulty as gauge (improper readings)
047. Missing paint around the headlights
048. Bleed screw on clutch slave cylinder loose
049. Stickers on rockers peeling
050. Scratches on window pillars
051. Misaligned body & door panels as well as hood not centered properly (more to one side then the other)
052. Alignment of doors to dash interior the door interior seems to sag below the dash interior
053. Drivers side roof light( the one with the toggle switch) only works when its toggled over to the passenger side
054. Door sill decals peeling up
055. Paint swirls in driver/passenger door
056. Drive-shaft connection to the differential cracking when dropping the clutch
057. Tach Needle Sticking
058. Wiper motor wiring comes through bottom of the cowling-well in front of the driver. (The fix (decided upon between the dealer and myself) was to re-insulate the wires, cover the harness with a hard, slick plastic covering, drill a small hole in the bottom of the cowling-well (fill the hole with silicone) and use a cable tie down like the rest of the wiper harness uses to secure the harness to the floor of the cowling (the grommet will collapse downward with little force), far away from harm from the wiper arms.)
059. engine makes continuous clicking noise, starting roughly 5 seconds after engine starts
060. Door Sill plates wrinkled on outside edges (both sides)
061. Trunk gasket at bottom of rear window coming off
062. Uneven Dash (driver's side dash is lower then passenger's side)
063. Passenger/Driver's side Fender alignment off. (wheel cover well had to come off, then loosen fender bolt, and it pops right in place)
064. Key won't stay in folded position
065. Faulty Tail lights.
066. Weather stripping at back of rear windows loose (I can literally grab and peel it back).
067. Missing or peeling paint between trunk lid and spoiler (right rear section)—could possibly spread over time down the trunk lid.
068. Driver's seat makes clicking noises when set all the way back.

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We know it's a new car that was rushed to market, but holy mackerel. Perhaps the most depressing part is the numbering convention, three digits, implying a possibility of triple digit defects. Yikes. [Camaro5]

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DISCUSSION

Okay, before everyone goes off on another "fuck you, GM pos assholes" rant, let's analyze this here.

Granted that is a damn big list.

But if you take a good look through them, you'll find that at least a third of those are things you have to check on any new car, and are problems I have heard of on a number of other cars.

For example:

-Trunk lock mechanism (I'm look at you, Toyota)

-Loose plastic paneling (Mitsubishi Evo, this one's for you)

-Loose Spoiler (Honda S2000, that's you)

-Launch Control, broken tranny (Do I really need to say it?)

-Digital Speedo off (Honda Civic, you're not alone)

-One headlight not as bright as its surrounding halo light (Well, that doesn't sound like a BMW, now does it?)

-Faulty taillights (*cough*Volkswagen*cough*)

And so on and so forth.

These aren't unique problems in any way shape or form, and happen frequently on every make and model of new car. Also, as expected, they are all occurring on early production cars. This is no different than when any new model is introduced. Anyone remember when the RX-8 was introduced? It's a great car now, but it had more than its share of early teething issues.

Several of these issues are also dealer problems, not GM factory problems. For instance, the rally stripes and spoilers are, in many cases, dealer installed. Check to see who is at fault for that, because it may be the dealer itself.

I also wonder at the rate of frequency that all of these problems occur at, and what their comorbidity is. For instance, exactly how often has it been that there has been a bad radiator new from the factory? I can't think that that is a frequent occurrence. Also, did owners have at least 10 of these problems all at once, or just one or two of the smaller things, like the headlight?

If there were just a few minor issues, I would say get it fixed and get the hell over yourself, as that's just part of the new car experience, particularly early in the production run. Those will get sorted out as production ramps up.

Finally, here are a few of my favorite excerpts from above:

-Trunk Locking mechanism (issues with opening w/o adding down pressure to top of trunk first)

Well no shit, Tracy. You aren't supposed to push down on the trunk when you're trying to open it.

-Rocker Panel aligned with body and clipped in correctly.

Then what's the f*cking problem?

-Trunk opens with switch and remote

This means you're doing it right. Congratulations.

-Correct speedo/tach gauge ring color

And this is a problem, how...?

-Ambient lighting on drivers door as bright as passenger door

Psst...It's supposed to be like that.

-Door panel not scratched from seat belt.

Learn how to operate seat belt properly.

-Clunking noise in changing gears

Learn how to drive a manual.

-Trunk opens with remote and laser cut key

You must be our representative from the department of redundancy department. You're doing it right, just to let you know, you're doing it right.

-Squeaky Breaks

I break squeeky things, to. Like my little nephew's annoying as hell rubber duck that he carries everywhere.

-GFX installed correctly

Then quit your bitching.

-Scraping sound for a second when backing up

Stop trying to launch the car in reverse.

-Scratches in seats

Wear less abrasive clothing. Good for the car, good for your sense of style.

-Scratches on window pillars

Duck when entering coupes.

-Once in every 10-15 times I unlock the car, the drivers side door is still locked, while

the locking knob on the door is in the "up" position

Why the hell are you randomly sitting there locking and unlocking the car every 10-15 minutes? Get a life.

-Faulty as gauge (improper readings)

So is your grammar. In light of that, I'll take these complaints with a grain of salt.

-Engine makes continuous clicking noise, starting roughly 5 seconds after engine starts

You do realize that if you turn the ignition and the car makes a buzzing/clicking sound, that means the car is already running, right?

-Passenger/Driver's side Fender alignment off. (wheel cover well had to come off, then loosen fender bolt, and it pops right in place)

Learn how to park properly.

-Key won't stay in folded position

Well, if you didn't insist on sitting in front of your new car and locking/unlocking it every 10-15 minutes, maybe the key fob would last longer.

-Weather stripping at back of rear windows loose (I can literally grab and peel it back).

Quit pulling at it and you won't have a problem. This is just a bad idea and a bad thing to do with any car. Why would you do it with your brand new Camaro?

-Driver's seat makes clicking noises when set all the way back.

That usually signifies that the seat is as far back as it goes. Problem solved.

And this has been another episode of "Ask PaulJones". Thanks for playing, and next time try not to be such a dumbass