Forum Trashes BMW Owner Who Had M3 Delivered In Wrong Shade Of Blue

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If you are dealing with a high-priced luxury or sports car, it is almost 100% impossible to complain about that vehicle on the Internet without someone alleging that you sound like a whiny prick. One M3 buyer who says he got screwed over by BMW is learning that lesson right now.


M3Post user b-thumper put up a thread over the weekend titled "My Euro Delivery Disaster." B-thumper explained that he's driven a last-gen M3 for the past eight years, and for the past four years he has obsessed over one car: a current-generation M3 in "Atlantis Blue with Blue deviated stitching and the Individual Piano trim." He finally made his order and paid for European Delivery, where he'd pick up his car at the BMW Museum, then take it for a lap around the legendary Nurburgring.

The only problem was when he arrived at the museum, he says he found his car was Atlantic Blue, not Atlantis Blue.

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Then b-thumper appropriately freaked out.

I RUN to my laptop and check all my paperwork/emails. YES, they all say Atlantis Blue. Before I had narrowed it down to the final color choice, it even mentioned the paint code in earlier emails.

At this point, I start to notify the front desk of my situation. They kindly refer me to the gentleman who will be doing my delivery experience. He could not have been nicer, but I made it clear; we have the wrong color car!

B-thumper explains in his post that the error was at the factory in Germany. This was BMW's fault, and they try and make it right.

There is talk of possibly repainting the car (which I expressed as an impossibility). I want a new M3, as originally specified.


After a nine hour wait, BMW allegedly went on to lend him a new BMW X1 to drive, which he used to lap the 'Ring after all. He is not satisfied.

It's an okay touring car, but woefully in adequate for any kind of track use. I wanna cry!


He says BMW then allowed him to drive the Atlantic Blue M3 as a loaner while they go ahead and build him a new M3 in the proper Atlantis Blue. There's one hitch: M3 production is ending in six weeks and b-thumper's personalized interior would take eight weeks to build. The only way to get the right combination is to swap the interior from the Atlantic Blue car to the Atlantis Blue one. A bodyshop would do the transfer and it just wouldn't be the same.

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B-thumper turned it down.

Some options like swapping the interior from the existing car were offered, but much like repainting the car, it will never be 100% authentic and I can only imagine it will lead to a world of squeaks and rattles. It's not a stretch to say that the Individual program is the very reason I am buying an M3 and to have the interior missing is unacceptable.


In the end, b-thumper says he found himself not particularly bitter or angry, just determined to see his car built to his exact specifications for the price he originally paid (in full, before seeing the car, as is standard for BMW's European Deliveries).

While I enjoyed my time in Germany, it ended up being thousands of dollars spent on the wrong vacation. Nobody has offered to reimburse me for my airfare or offer me any financial compensation for the inconvenience. Unless you consider two free tickets to the BMW museum financial compensation.

In any event, this is not resolved at the time of this posting and I am posting my story as a cautionary tale and as a public plea to BMW to make this right. They are trying to make things right, but I am having some serious doubts. Here we are, more than 9 days later and I am left with a hope and a prayer that they can build my car as desired.

It almost goes without saying that the outcome of my situation will greatly influence my desire to own any future BMW vehicles.


The early responses on the forum were supportive, and even b-thumper's dealership (Steve Thomas BMW in CA) chimed in.

I can PROMISE you we are doing everything we can to make this right. We have told BMW that we want the car delivered in the specs as it was ordered and now we are waiting to hear back from the upper levels at BMW. We are dedicated to fight for whats right, but we are at the mercy of BMW.


It didn't take long, though, before people started calling the whole story a "first world problem."

what if (as it appears in this situation) that the die has been cast and there is no going back? human error caused this, and there is no other way to build this car at the factory? it seems as though the window has closed. so now have to figure the plan b. sucks. but that's life.

first world problems indeed.


Truth2k05 also tried to put things in a harsh perspective.

The fact that you are in Europe far outweighs the color of the car and a different color of thread on the stitching. Put the finest paint and leather interior on a Prius and see if that enhances your driving experience. It's an M3.

The op has solutions, get a refund, get another car, get over it.

First world problems, by the way 80k ain't squat.

To everyone reading, let this be a reminder to ask for a paint sample, when asking for an individual color.


Personally, I sympathize with b-thumper. Think of spending four years designing and preparing your absolute dream car. B-thumper must have gone through hours a day photoshopping how the two-tone blue interior would have looked, or contemplating exactly which color complemented the subtle bodywork extensions of the M3.

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Surely there were countless nights where he stayed late at work, clocking in overtime to be sure he could afford his dream Atlantis Blue M3. Think of all the birthday parties he missed, or how many times he never hung out with his friends on those long nights in the office.

He would have missed that one barbecue all of his buddies threw back in spring 2011. There was a cute brunette at that barbecue. She was nice, and understanding, and she was restoring a vintage BMW 3.0CS her father gave to her. She needed help on her project. B-thumper could have given her that help. She could have been the one, b-thumper. She could have been the one.


So I absolutely and completely feel for b-thumper. I do. It's just important that we all learn a lesson from his forum post. No matter how right you are, or how wronged you've been, if you complain about some part of the experience of owning an expensive car on the Internet, forum users will pour out of the woodwork to criticize you. There is utterly no way you can describe being handed the keys to a new car to take on a lap of the Nurburgring and say "I wanna cry" without people thinking you're spoiled.

It's just the way of the Internet, and we should all remember that.

(Hat tip to Kamil!)

Photo Credits: b-thumper/M3Post


Raphael Orlove

B-thumper actually made a few clarifications which help explain why his demands aren't as unreasonable as they first might seem.

Here is his response to those asking 'why not just swap the interiors?'

Honestly, once you see how a car is assembled, you don't want it done by a bodyshop in Germany. And I'm not paying to have (even an factory associated) bodyshop tear up my new car. The interior would not be swapped on the assembly line as a normal M3 is done. And I know removing/reinstalling an interior is not rocket science for a bodyshop, but I've worked with the interior on my car enough times to know that they don't go back the same twice.

And the deal breaker for the interior swap is the originality. You would pull up the VIN (on the replacement car) and there would be no mention of the Individual stitching. Imagine that you get a tear in your leather down the road and want a new seat skin? Good luck convincing them you had a "factory delivered" option that doesn't pull up with the VIN on the dealer computer.

If I wanted a car that was painted and assembled by a bodyshop, I wouldn't have bothered with the car at all. The beauty of Individual is that it's all OEM (the OE standing for Original Equipment).

Here is his what he is currently wanting/hoping from BMW.

To me, the bottom line is that it doesn't take 8-weeks to build the leather interior for the car. It only takes 8-weeks through the normal process. I am asking them to pull rank with the interior supplier to prioritize making a part for me. Might it be expensive or unusual to fast track a part like that? Yes, but I think it is there obligation to make it happen at this point. Surely SOMEONE at BMW DE has the weight and authority to fast-track an order for the interior.

If they can't make it happen, I will accept it, as I have no other choice, but I am not going to be silent in my displeasure.

And here is his thought on his whole forum post. He sounds like a perfectly reasonable human being.

I have tried to maintain composure throughout the process, and I actually wrote most of the original post last Tuesday to let the words sink in. I just feel compelled to share my story since I am surely not the first and certainly wont be the last to be in this situation. Not to mention that venues like this can sometimes provide additional incentive for BMW to explore every avenue to resolve the situation.

Finally, here is b-thumper's somewhat lengthy explanation why it took four years to get his car order in.

As to why it took 4 years: Individual color paint has to be approved before the order is placed. Individual interiors can also take an extended period of time to sort out. At the start of this process, I was interested in an E90 in Audi's Nogaro Blue. I have 2 Audi's in that color now, one painted via Audi's Exclusive program. The original dealer I started with (who shall remain nameless) caused me to miss the order deadline for the E90. I was waiting for approval on Nogaro Blue, but made it clear that I did not want to miss the order deadline for an Individual E90. One day I call the salesman and he informs me that he forgot to tell me, but that not only was Nogaro Blue denied, but that the order window has closed for Individual paint on an E90. Call me crazy, but I didn't want a stock color E90 and so I went and bought an A4 Avant in Nogaro blue for daily driving duties. As I was contemplating an E92, I stumbled across Steve Thomas BMW and contacted them about an E92 with some Individual options. There was no pressure, but we got the ball rolling on what was initially to be an M3 in Nogaro Blue, with matching blue alcantara, and blue stitching on the seats. Of the exterior color list I had requested, Nogaro blue was surprisingly APPROVED, in addition to several other colors (including Atlantis with the correct paint code). The blue alcantara interior was not approved, but they were willing to do blue leather in any way I wanted. For a VERY VERY LARGE sum of money. I decided that I wanted the two-tone blue/black leather interior, but that I had to get a leather sample before I could approve the option. It turns out BMW DE was waiting for us to order the car that way (with the $$$$$ interior), before they would provide a leather sample. And not the other way around. To be frank, I'm not paying for an option that is 50% of the base price of the car without seeing a leather sample. So I bailed on the custom color leather and decided to stick with deviated stitching. That was also frustrating because they could not provide a sample of the thread being used and I had concerns about it matching the exterior and custom color leather.

Since beginning the order process, I went from one to two nogaro blue cars and the prospect of owning 3 was starting to sound less exciting, especially since the matching interior leather was not going to happen. So of the final 3 colors I had approval to order (Nogaro, Mora, and Atlantis), I settled on Atlantis. We got the order placed and voila: 4-years passed.

To those that say you should get a sample in advance, I have seen Atlantis blue in person, I don't require a sample. But it is a fair request and I would like to see that option in the future.