PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi? - Jalopnik Comments

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

FuzzyPlushroom — Wed, 07 May 2008 20:23:32 EDT

@TheTooth: '84 for that reason... and because I didn't look at the URL and just saw "Location: Jupiter".

FuzzyPlushroom

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

SeanKHotay — Wed, 07 May 2008 12:39:00 EDT

@TechnoDestructo: I take it you've not touched the iHell that is Bosch D-jet, ja?

SeanKHotay

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

rev.bubba — Wed, 07 May 2008 11:21:14 EDT

The 2000c with an early M3 motor is the way to go.

rev.bubba

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

SeanKHotay — Wed, 07 May 2008 05:57:28 EDT

Transmission Shoemaker-Levy'd - check.

Fuel system runs, doesn't run - spritzing randomly like Io - check.

Paint grey-blue & new like the surface of Europa - check.

Looks like a red spot on the bumper - check.

Probably sixty other peripheral issues circulately around & unseen from afar, maybe even a ring of them - check.

Yep, this 63-series is a Jupiter PCH.

SeanKHotay

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

TechnoDestructo — Wed, 07 May 2008 04:49:04 EDT

@BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ:

There is no "i" in "hell."

TechnoDestructo

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

beercheck — Wed, 07 May 2008 00:27:05 EDT

@lankybits: If you think that's "funny", I've got this one ex-girlfriend you might enjoy meeting.

beercheck

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

thunder — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:39:02 EDT

Again I mark the ballot according to the machine I'd prefer to have in my garage — 2000C. Dang, that's a fine looking machine... That alone would keep me going for years, whether it ran or not.

thunder

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

schumonster — Tue, 06 May 2008 23:37:03 EDT

Having had my own personal PCH with a the 2000c's younger sibling a '72 3.0cs I can safely say the 2000c is WAY more hellish than the 6'er and wins on obscurity factor by a mile.

schumonster

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

RolloGrande — Tue, 06 May 2008 22:57:56 EDT

Who needs syncros? Race cars don't have syncros. Put some Marvel Mystery Oil in the fuel tank and float shift that bitch!

RolloGrande

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

lankybits — Tue, 06 May 2008 22:56:55 EDT

Murilee, "boiling hive of Botswanan Urethra-Seeking Fire Millipedes" is the funniest thing I've read in a while... thanks!

lankybits

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

DrJimmy — Tue, 06 May 2008 22:36:19 EDT

`67. Easy vote.

When it's two machines from the same manufacturer, it's always gonna be the older one.

Unless it's Mopar.....

DrJimmy

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Kelly — Tue, 06 May 2008 22:15:46 EDT

I will say the Moonlighting-mobile did handle Mr. Willis' parking garage abuse in one of the later episodes. I've always wanted to do that to a car which wasn't already gravitating towards a junkyard.

Kelly

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Kelly — Tue, 06 May 2008 22:14:20 EDT

'84. It's going to break your budget to fix, then to keep it running.

In return, you get a common car which has little value, even in great condition.

I thought the Moonlighting car was a 635CSi. This, and the same era's 5-series were the only BMW's on which I liked the styling, but I'd still never own one.

Kelly

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Paul Y. can't think of a better, shorter handle — Tue, 06 May 2008 21:53:13 EDT

@Mike the Dog: Coker Tire still sells TRXs, for $184-$535 each.

Sucker.

Paul Y. can't think of a better, shorter handle

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

discontinuuity — Tue, 06 May 2008 21:02:02 EDT

I'll take the '67. Fender-mount mirrors FTW.

discontinuuity

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

NovaloadMissesPolar — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:24:51 EDT

Big shark, little shark--what's the diff? Both will kill you, with enough time.

NovaloadMissesPolar

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

HoubaHouba! — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:10:47 EDT

@Mike the Dog: Turns out you can still get TRX-sized tires, and they only cost about $300 each - what a bargain!

And that shows why the 2000 is a better PCH. You can find 633s in the yards and even get TRX tires. The last classic pillarless BMW coupe of any kind I saw was a 6 and that was 18 months ago at a car show. The rest have dissolved. As the old joke goes, the Italians did not actually invent rust. They licensed the process from Karmann.

The 2000C's missing tail lights alone make the car a Hell of almost French proportions.

I kick myself for not importing a 3.0CS when my fraternity brothers were bringing them in during the height of the 80s grey market days, so the 2000C would be excellent penance.

HoubaHouba!

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Mike the Dog — Tue, 06 May 2008 19:48:11 EDT

@anaxomander: TRX wheels?! I thought those were just for Escorts (and extinct since they quit making the tires about 20 years ago).

Mike the Dog

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Hotrodelectric — Tue, 06 May 2008 19:08:21 EDT

@beercheck: LOL! You say that and I'm thinking "Padres".

Hotrodelectric

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Mark Arnold — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:53:27 EDT

Hmm... I guess I could always use a parts car...

Mark Arnold

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

MarionCobretti — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:30:42 EDT

@Paul Y. is Going Dumb at the Sideshow:

The 2000C is a beautiful car.

Yep. And even though I read the post and the ads, and figure the 633 offers greater risk and lower reward, I just can't get around how pretty the 2000C is. I feel like one of those people who bases his vote in Presidential elections on which candidate he'd rather have a beer with, but I just can't help it. That's one fine looking automobile.

MarionCobretti

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

subsammy — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:23:32 EDT

@al_beaton: But how about the rust there?

subsammy

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

dohcspit — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:18:29 EDT

2000C, grab a post-malaise drivetrain from Pick 'n Pull. Hell with style!

dohcspit

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

al_beaton — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:05:46 EDT

@subsammy: But at least the weather there looks better than Carl Sagan promised.

al_beaton

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Maymar is convinced M.C. Escher engineered his car — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:57:47 EDT

On account of the vaguely Corvairesque shape of the 2000C, I'm thinking backseat fulla M5 V10.

Maymar is convinced M.C. Escher engineered his car

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

PatFromGundo — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:54:10 EDT

@beercheck: You mean, Tom Brady would die? I'm in.

Also, the E24. After all the work you'd put in, it'd still be just another 25-year-old German blowmobile (though an admittedly gorgeous one.)

PatFromGundo

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Mjolnir427 — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:51:06 EDT

The 633 will have relatively easy parts location and can be diagnosed/repaired by any competent BMW dealership in the country.

The 2000, on the other hand, is at least partially made out of unobtainium and will languis, unloved, at the back of the lot when BMW techs are looking for something to do.

It will provide far more hell than an expensive, but easily repaired 633.

Mjolnir427

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

beercheck — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:49:15 EDT

@BlackIce_GTS: Florida? Says here it's on Jupiter.

beercheck

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

beercheck — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:46:59 EDT

Remember, the one that finishes second will be put down immediately following the competition.

Man, think of the sports that could improve.

beercheck

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

BlackIce_GTS — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:46:58 EDT

800$!? I let out a sigh of relief when I saw it was in the opposite corner of the country (...that I live next too).
Fuel systems are easy, I could fix that. And the transmission. How hard could that be? How far is Florida, anyway? I've always (read: never) wanted to see the other side of the rockies.
Damnit!

BlackIce_GTS

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Paul Y. can't think of a better, shorter handle — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:45:49 EDT

The 2000C is a beautiful car.

I've found that any vehicle I've never seen an example of in person gets bonus points for hell.

Besides, there is probably nothing like driving a BMW and having to explain to people what it is.

To drift off topic, I need a BMW Bavaria.

Paul Y. can't think of a better, shorter handle

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

JimBobJoeBobJim — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:45:01 EDT

The 2000C baby! All the parts of a 2002, but without the light weight and great handling.

I found one of these in Phoenix for a grand years ago that actually ran, and I'm kicking myself for not buying it.

JimBobJoeBobJim

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Tue, 06 May 2008 17:42:00 EDT

The 2000C ad is almost a haiku. Do craigslist ads charge by the letter?

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

badco/LoJ — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:41:55 EDT

A used BMW, just like the one that Bruce Willis used to drive.

Cybill Shepherd, actually. Bruce Willis just borrowed it sometimes.

633 FTW.

badco/LoJ

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

subsammy — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:40:17 EDT

I'll take the 633 but 365 million miles is a long way to tow a car. I hope I don't have to get the transmission from Mars.

subsammy

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Also smoking his cigar in the CSRSL — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:39:31 EDT

A 3.0 CSL would be the choise for BMW coupes

BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Also smoking his cigar in the CSRSL

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

Preferredcustomer — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:37:43 EDT

The 633 is infinitely more hellish. More complex, more expensive parts to break, and at the end of the day what have you got? A used BMW, just like the one that Bruce Willis used to drive.

At least with the 2000C, you have a rare car that everyone will recognize as something unique.

Preferredcustomer

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Also smoking his cigar in the CSRSL — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:37:10 EDT

The 2000C because has no "i"

BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Also smoking his cigar in the CSRSL

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

anaxomander — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:32:04 EDT

Hmmm. Even if the fuel pump is all it needs, that probably doubles the purchase price right there. And then there are the TRX wheels...

anaxomander

PCH, Upscale BMW Coupe Edition: 1967 2000C or 1984 633CSi?

TheTooth — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:31:09 EDT

1984 BMW 633CSi all the way.

I like how the seller states that it isn't running in the first few words, then later says that it's running... or at least that it ran at some point. Isn't that true for just about any car ever sold? LOL

TheTooth