I'm guessing that you're tired, and you meant an alertness test that won't let you DRIVE when you're tired? Not letting you sleep when you're tired sounds a) unpleasant & dangerous and b) like a Guantanamo hospitality policy...

dead_elvis

I don't drink, so this won't really have an effect on my ability to drive--i mean, apart from how it will likely spew out false positives like crazy. It'd just be something else i'd have to do every time i sit down in the car. (Which, let's be honest, would sap away a lot of my respect for such a system--and probably not just mine, but everyone's respect.)

Seriously.

If you want to make me a safer driver don't try to stop me from drinking--i don't already--but instead put an alertness test in that won't let me sleep when i'm tired. (That won't work either, but at least driving when i'm tired is something i do.)

Not that i have a problem sticking these things in the cars of people who, uh, need them... but i'm there has to be a better way.

Shapeshifter

MADD succeeded in pushing the BAC level in most states from 0.12, then to 0.1 and now most have adopted 0.08. Now they're pushing for 0.05 with the goal of 0.02.

They have to keep pushing the limits down, eventhough they may have achieved all their original goals, because they have to to stay in business. There are many people who have salaries and benefits that count on it.

danio3834

For every drunk driver, there are 1 million moderate drinkers who may drive home safely and responsibly.

If you listen to MADD, they'll have you believe that 1 beer will turn you into the Anti-Christ.

danio3834

What causes more highway deaths/year - excessive speed or drunk driving?

Unregular

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Novaload

@smoke~: That Hurtz driver still has a tether just like their skank passengers should.

SeanKHotay

superbmtsub

Kinda dumb.

ChristianGM

Heffae

Uncle Trash

AmishJohn

charles_barrett

icust298

Face it, in a controlled environment (i.e. no one is going to be driving themselves), it's a bit of a party favor to compare Blood Alcohol Levels (just don't let anyone go toxic, fer Chrissakes!) Let the good times roll...

charles_barrett

icust298

That fact puts me square into the camp of Mad_Science above, and, I suppose,aligns me with the American Beverage Institute. So false positive lockouts would be rampant and unacceptable.

charles_barrett

+1

I'm quite tired of people trying to control my life in the "land of the free".

That's what I need is one more device in a vehicle which can render it a paperweight when it fails.

This is why I like older cars...they're simpler, relatively speaking.

Kelly

Go ahead, put 'em on. I dare ya.

Unevolved: Whoop!

They don't just make you blow before you start the car, every now and then a little light will turn on and you have X amount of time to pull over and blow again. If you don't, and you're under a certain speed, it'll kill the car. So even if you are a straight up teetotaler, never touched a drop of alcohol in your life, it would still be annoying as hell. And if you use a mouthwash with alcohol in it... well...

something_unique_and_descriptive

...actually, just lock 'em all in there and go away. That'll do.

Daniel Rutter

tenbeers

Bad Juju

This is one of those things that the insurance industry should be paying for. They say they care soooo much about reducing collisions/claims and reducing the incidences of drunk driving... how about they put there money where their mouths are. No... they only want it when someone else spends the money even though it benefits them directly.

And it's the same thing with speeding... one little ECU programming change and you can eliminate all highway speeding.

The police and insurance industry say they want people to "slow down"... that's what they say... but not enough to lobby government to limit the maximum speed of all cars sold to the highest speed limit in the given province/state. But if they lobbied for that, I'd be lobbying for ensuring that all government vehicles being limited in the same way - except for when the emergency lights are on.

It seems they care about speeding... but not enough to forgo the speeding ticket revenue (as well as the BS "street racing" revenue scheme in places like Ontario)as well as BS excuses to raise insurance rates.

petersterncan

Seriously it's just an inconvenience to law abiding citizens that shouldn't be mandated. If you never drink, do you want to have to blow into something every time you want to start your car?

How would this work with remote starters?

Didn't they try something like this with seatbelts in the 70's? That lasted a long time, huh?

How about those early 90's automatic belts? Those were fun, right?

I drive old enough vehicles and have enough of an understanding of how a car works, that I would have no trouble bypassing a retrofit interlock. It probably wouldn't be to difficult to bypass even as an OEM item. (blow up a balloon before you start drinking, and use that air to pass the test?)

Plus, (last one, I promise) I want as few as possible of the systems in my car to have the power to stop my car from running and/or driving.

smalleyxb122

+ Watch video

smoke~

I know that most people here think that an OEM breathalizer is no big deal, but I would like to respectfully disagree.

I'm very saddened that we're sanguinely considering turning decisions about who's qualified to drive over to fallible machines and distant programmers.

This is only my opinion, but I find a startlingly radical disconnect between expecting citizens to act like rational human beings while placing devices that remove adult decision making from their driving process.

There should be a pretty clear correlation between citizens that thinks it's Toyota's job to prevent drunk driving and citizens that don't understand why gas is so expensive.

Mjolnir427

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Markstre302

Wasn't there a news report of a woman who let her 8 or 9 year old try to start the car because she had one of those devices on her car as a habitual offender?

Novaload

Which means the interlock manufacturers will set the nominal measurement artificially low. Which means you're SOL if you're legally clear but your device is reading on the high end of the spectrum.

If it's a good idea for DUI offenders, why not make it mandatory safety feature in all cars? After all, no one should be allowed to drive drunk.

While we're at it, we should set up a safety interlock for seat belts. Oh, and a system that can read the speed limit of the road you're on and limit your car to that.

I keep trying to draw a clear line, but it's tough since this slope is so slippery.

Mad_Science

Jesus Christ, talk about irresponsible. Now, I know there is little risk in having a drink at dinner and driving home, but I certainly don't think it is something that needs to be publicly encouraged.

wookie1901

Rust-MyEnemy

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oldskoolparts

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Froggmann

It's more likely than you think!

tenbeers

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