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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Doesn't surprise me it has 250,000 miles on it.  The engines in those things are a work of art before GM de-swedified them, taking good care of it those things would last longer than the car.  My first car was an 86 900 coupe with a 5 spd manual.  Car had over 300,000 miles on the original engine before it got passed on to someone else out there probably chugging along on that same engine.</p>
<p>Allow me to impart some humor via experiences with my beloved first car.</p>
<p>Gotta love the starter location, one time a friend spilled some of his drink between the seats (while the car was not on thankfully).  Since the ignition is located in the middle of the seats in what is essentially a piece of plastic shaped like a wide funnel you can only guess where all the liquid went.  Normally this would seem a terrible catastrophe of epic proportions, not in a Saab 900.  Hmm.. no.. the funny part is the corn syrup concoction actually made the key a bit easier to turn than it had been before and it started up just fine.  The several ounces of liquid had appeared to have sluiced off somewhere into the bowels under the center console somewhere.  It had probably dislodged some of the lint, dirt, dust and random grime already in the ignition switch that had been causing a problem of bent keys before this spill.</p>
<p>Mine also had a lovely steering rack quirk my dad had dubbed the 'Armstrong' steering system.  This is because it would steer beautifully most of the time but would suddenly turn into a nightmarish battle of wits with the car's steering system at other times.  It was like having an arm wrestling match with the steering wheel just to get it to turn and nearly always at the perfect time to cause the most issue.  Often when I was trying to parallel park or merging into slow moving but annoyingly hostile freeway traffic nope no ninja merges for me.</p>
<p>It's the quirks I miss, it's like the Saab never wanted driving to be all easygoing all the time or else you wouldn't feel like you'd earned that commute to work without any problems.  Especially not unless you'd suffered through at least one minor quirk or inexplicit mechanical problem that month.  Oh yes how I miss the bosom of my quirky Swedish mistress.</p> <p>phunktion</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>That clip made me teary eyed.  I miss my first car soooo much.  '91 Saab 900 Turbo, white with gray leather interior, 5-speed.<br>
Wish I could find another.  The black one in the vid would be a nice replacement.  :)</p> <p>Phishy</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://jalopnik.com/381803/saabophiles-delight-vintage-turbos#c5302007">petersterncan</A>: But see, therein lies the problem with the 9000 of old. You try and drop the oil pan for a reasonable cost. It was in the above endevor that I eventually ended up taking the engine out of the car. Why? Well... the oilpan on that ol' B202 block <B>is</B> a structural part of the block - i.e. the motor mounts bolt to the oil pan. No really. And we aren't talking brackets that bolt on - no... we are talking of an oil pan that is cast in the shape to have motor mounts go through it. Really really.</P> <p>laughing_guitarist</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>With Saabs, your experience may vary. I had a 96 Saab 900S 2.3 that was the most unreliable pile of crap I ever drove (and it was kind of a dog).</P>
<P>My 9-3 SE hatch has been a nice, reliable vehicle. Power and mileage is great, but the handling isn't great.</P> <p>brandegee</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5302820">Turboner</a>: SAAB had this hood from the 99 that was launched 1967. I think they were first...you can correct me if I am wrong.</p> <p><a href="http://n/a">JantheMan</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5302853">Turboner</a>: A gun?  I've had one since my teens years; not at all Saab related.  If a Saab leads to my death, it'll happen at a turbo-enhanced high rate of speed (while achieving surprisingly good gas mileage).</p>
<p>Also, I thought of you today when saw a sweet A6 (wagon!) in my lot today.  Oregon plates, y'know.</p> <p>lascauxcaveman</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>That car in the video, by the way, has 250,000 miles on it. The GM Heritage collection people did a fine job sprucing it up.</p> <p>Uncle Trash</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5299962">oldskoolparts</a>: No Saab is without sills except for the Saabaru 9-2.</p> <p>Uncle Trash</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>My BMW's (1976 2002, 1985 e30, 1995 525i) all had the flip open
hood. I was very disappointed when I bought my e39 and it had a
"regular hood". Almost bought a 900 back in 1979, but my wife liked the
more conventional looking Volvo 244.</p> <p>02chuck</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I can still pick out the odd Saab 900 Turbos from a block away with their particular whine. I had a red 84 900 turbo back in the day. Great car. Turbo lasted right through 180k</P> <p>Daga</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>My first car was my dads old 86 900 turbo which he bought new. It would have been really cool except the turbo had gone bad at around 90,000 and my dad was to cheap to replace it so he just took it off. So with 8:1 or so compression it was actually slower than a regular 900. I beat the shit out of it for quite some time before I got something else and my dad started driving it again. He finally traded it in on a new car in 03, the dealer gave him $200 for it and I miss it to this day. As weird as it was it was one of the best built cars I have ever driven and was very advanced for its time. Not to mention you could smash into any number of solid objects and drive away without a scatch because the bumpers stuck out about a foot away from the body.</p> <p>grrrr</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<a name="image:12/2008/04/381803/299012/smallish_900ad.jpg" class="commentImagePlaceholder"></a><p>WWJBD, if he had to buy his own car?  A silver Saab 900 Turbo, naturally.</p>
<p><a href="http://commanderbond.net/article/2284">[commanderbond.net]</a></p> <p>The Kid</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p><div class="comment-video-thumb"><a class="vlink" href="javascript:toggleVideoComment('jK0valNYin0')"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/jK0valNYin0/1.jpg" /></a><br /><a id="ylink_jK0valNYin0" href="javascript:toggleVideoComment('jK0valNYin0')">+ Watch video</a></div><div class="comment-video" id="yvid_jK0valNYin0" style="display: none;"><object width="425" height="355"><param value="http://www.youtube.com/v/jK0valNYin0&autoplay=1" name="movie"/><param name="wmode" value="transparent"/><embed width="425" height="355" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jK0valNYin0&autoplay=1" wmode="transparent"/></object></div></p><br>
My friend's Saab sounds better <p>chrisLa</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>As a member of SaabsGoneWild, I thoroughly approved of this article.</p> <p><a href="http://www.teamdlux.com">DΞLUXE</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://jalopnik.com/381803/saabophiles-delight-vintage-turbos#c5301079">lascauxcaveman</A>: Did you buy one?</P> <p>Turboner</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Now on my second old Saab ('87 9000T / '98 900SE Turbo), I hate to say it might be my last. That is unless the Turbo X represents the first thawing rays of dawn. Old models were incredibly stout in parts but fraught with strange issues...um, character. As a frequenter of Saabnet's classifieds, I can say EndlessMike is right, the old ones are getting harder to find.<br>
Friends with NG 9.3s (Malibus?) have had nothing but problems.</p> <p><a href="http://www.saabnet.com">JackMaz</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://jalopnik.com/381803/saabophiles-delight-vintage-turbos#c5297713">racerx</A>: Did they copy BMW, or vice-versa?</P> <p>Turboner</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Someone in high school had a red Turbo with the Aztec wheels...those wheels were amazing.</p> <p>Al Navarro</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Meant to say 'driving dynamics'</p> <p>petersterncan</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>So far my experience with my 2000 Saab 9-3 is that in terms of
reliability/maint costs, it's isn't a Honda or Toyota... or even a Ford
Escort.</p>
<p>But in terms driving dynics, it's way better than a regular Honda, Toyota... and especially... Ford Escort.</p>
<p>But the maintenance only horrible if you get the car fixed at the
dealer. Having an independent mechanic who has the Saab-specific diag
equipment is a necessity.</p>
<p>In my case, my mechanic owns a 1999 9-3SE... so he's familiar with these cars.</p>
<p>You also have to be proactive with the care and do some research to
avoid problems. For example... use cheap oil and wait too long between
oil changes and that oil pickup screen will get clogged with sludge
which will kill the engine in no time.</p>
<p>And when you buy a used Saab, even if the mileage is low, pay your mechanic to drop the oil pan to make sure there's no sludge.</p> <p>petersterncan</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5298430">mehugtree</a>: I had the 89 with the louvers... it had a unique sound... and hellatious torque-steer</p> <p>tbennett017</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://jalopnik.com/381803/saabophiles-delight-vintage-turbos#c5299824">stuntpuppy</A>: @udman, idiot!</P> <p><a href="n/a">stuntpuppy</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5300875">lascauxcaveman</a>: [Raises gun to head, pulls t<b>R</b>igger...]</p> <p>lascauxcaveman</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>These all need the "Saab Gone Wild" teams wee horns to look their very best.</P>
<P>Remember Saab's old tag?<BR>"Saab. The well-built Swede."</P></BR> <p>NovaloadMissesPolar</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://jalopnik.com/381803/saabophiles-delight-vintage-turbos#c5300660">PaulE</A>: Yeah, my dad's got a 9-5 Aero now, and he's been quite happy with the reliability. But dammit, the 99 and 900 are so much cooler than the GM-ified Saabs.</P> <p>elwood</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5298552">petedmeatv</a>: <i>I still have the spare engine/tranny + the doors in the garage.</i></p>
<p>I want your transmission, (if it's not the one you were doing 5K drops with.) Message me with the details by clicking my avatar.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c5297853">EndlessMike</a>:<br>
There have been quite a few for sale in the Seattle area these last 5 years  while I have been shopping for one.  They've all felt really heavy and slow compared to my 9000CSE, so I haven't pulled the tigger on any of them yet.</p> <p>lascauxcaveman</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5299815">LittlepixelTM</a>: I actually have a photo somewhere of a red Saab 99 that have been turned into a speed boat. The roof was chopped on it and it looks like shit.....Why do I not own a scanner?</p> <p><a href="http://n/a">JantheMan</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://jalopnik.com/381803/saabophiles-delight-vintage-turbos#c5300033">elwood</A>: Not me--I've owned a 96, 99, four 900s, four 9000s and a 9-5 Aero. The GM-ified Saabs have been extremely reliable cars compared to the older stuff even when they were new, and border on wash-&amp;-wear with normal maintenance.</P> <p>PaulE</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://jalopnik.com/381803/saabophiles-delight-vintage-turbos#c5297853">EndlessMike</A>: <BR>Unfortunately too many of those have autotragics. The 900CV I owned had the automatic. In fairness, that one actually worked like it should; most unusual for a 900. Ugh. I kept it a couple years before finding another 9000T (I've had a handful of them; this one was a rust-free '86 I found in Los Angeles) and a BMW 1100RT. Your best bet is to do the conversion to manual gearbox.</P></BR> <p>PaulE</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Let's see, I have had a 1995 - 9000 CS LPT, a 1999 - 9.3 SE Convertible, and now have a 2k6 9.5 and 9.3 Sport Combi. The 9.3 and 9.5 are radically different. The 9.5 being the last of the "real" SAABs. My problems thuis far:<BR>9K - transmission selector cable rubber boot was torn. ~$65 for new cable. AC compressor and clutch $1900k (I was out of town and the other half took it to the dealer)<BR>9.3 5th bow seal for the top would break - $0 - warranty<BR>9.5 - Mass Airflow sensor - warranty<BR>9.3 SC - headlight bulb - warranty.<BR>You have to understand that SAABs demand attention. If you provide it in the form of regular maintenance and inspections, they (in the words of another GM division) turn you on when you turn them on. Otherwise they are like Jaguars and mistresses:<BR>Periods of intense pleasure followed by extreme pains of expsense.</P></BR></BR></BR></BR></BR></BR> <p>dfwguy</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://jalopnik.com/381803/saabophiles-delight-vintage-turbos#c5298552">petedmeatv</A>: The Saab 9000 was the beginning of the Saab decline into brand-engineered mediocrity. My dad had one, and it's a wonder he was able to keep it working as long as he did. But really, he was mostly pinin' for his Saab 900. At least for me, I'd be a lot happier if GM sold Saab to some wealthy Swedish investors so they could go back to being the quirky awesome cars like the Saab 99 and Saab 900 of yore.</P> <p>elwood</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>i always felt a bit queer stepping into my ex-inlaws 96 turbo 900...no door sills and it made you do a double take or two every time</P> <p><a href="n/a">oldskoolparts</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://jalopnik.com/381803/saabophiles-delight-vintage-turbos#c5299446">Package</A>: Me too. Runnin' on hate today. On second look the closure seems very aviation-esque, which would make sense on a Saab.</P> <p><a href="n/a">stuntpuppy</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<a name="image:12/2008/04/381803/66999/smallish_saab99.jpg" class="commentImagePlaceholder"></a><p>My dream 99...<br>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5297894">Chinese Knockoff Bento</a>: That sounds like a magazine Charles might have.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c5298081">stuntpuppy</a>: But this way you can swap the clutch in 15 minutes!</p> <p>TurboBrick</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>They had one of those (probably the same one, actually) at the Boston auto show a few months ago. It was getting more attention than any of the new Saab offerings.</P> <p>DannyBN</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5298091">UDMan</a>: I was just about to mention that my 87 LeSabre used to open that way.</p> <p>Package</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5298091">UDMan</a>:</p>
<p>I was hatin', I just thought it was quite different.</p> <p><a href="n/a">racerx</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Best god damn steering wheel I have ever felt.</p> <p>rkwadd</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>My two cars: 1990 325iS, 1988 Saab 9000 Turbo. The Saab vomited its engine (ok fine... <B>I</B> put my finger down its throat) about 2 years ago and hasn't it accepted back since.</P>
<P>My experience with the Saab is like so: run away. As fast as you can. The interior is an odd mix of high quality plastics and really cheap cloth. The chassis is horribly flexy. And the electronics... sigh the electronics. The engine is pretty damn stout though - that much I will give it. The steering feel's pretty nice - i.e. when it is not desperately trying to twist its way out of your hands - very much like a temperamental cat I might say. It does however get great gas mileage for the power it is capable of... and I have on many occasions moved entire apartments in one trip</P>
<P>The e30 on the other hand - not so good at moving apartments, but better at everything else. This also is possibly the reason the Saab and its engine stay divorced :)</P> <p>laughing_guitarist</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I prefer my Saabs with two-strokes, thank you. That's still one fine piece of memorabilia, though.</P> <p>verbing weirds</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I had a Saab 9000 Turbo for a few years. Learned to drive stick on it, learned to hoon' around doing 5k launches (mmmmm, torque steer) and all kinds of other youthful idiocy. It was perfect for playing shows due to the plethora of space.</p>
<p>Every piece of electronics on that car started breaking down eventually. Then the rust started creeping up the doors. I actually drove down to southern Missouri with my pops and picked up a clean set of doors for it. But before I got around to installing them, the engine overheated due to a faulty thermostat. While getting an emissions test. It failed miserably. Picked up a junkyard engine to drop into it but then a clean Volvo wagon presented itself and I couldn't resist. Car went to the junkyard.</p>
<p>I still have the spare engine/tranny + the doors in the garage.</p> <p>petedmeatv</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>In North America, Saabs have a reputation as quirky niche cars for "anoraks", but in Nordic countries they're pretty ordinary. It's a shame GM hasn't invested in Saab as much as it would've deserved.</P>
<P>Also, it's worth to note that Volvo competes directly with the likes from BMW, Audi and Mercedes.</P> <p>tomi-ii</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<a name="image:12/2008/04/381803/14927/smallish_539938_3_full.jpg" class="commentImagePlaceholder"></a><p>ahh, love the old 900's.  Reminds me of my old 1986 900 SPG.  That was an awesome, solid car.  I wanted to hear the satisfying "clunk" sound of that hood closing.  That thing was a tank.</p>
<p>Shouldn't have let that one go!</p>
<p>Looked like this minus the louvers:</p>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>That looks cool as fook!</p> <p><a href="n/a">layabout</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I would totally Henry Ford that restored Turbo.  It's one hot SILF.</p> <p><a href="http://www.arowsell.net">arowsell</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or is rear left blinker's seal crooked on the vid? GM 'heritage' quality..</p> <p><a href="http://ropausta.blogit.kauppalehti.fi/">Aatos</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Rowr. Just rowr.</p>
<p>Also: the ignition placement is freaking genius. Older saabs have beautifully laid out interiors - pretty much every car company in the business today needs to take cues from the old Saabs in terms of ergonomics.</p> <p>kleinlowe</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>saab 900 turbo. the bane of my high-school years.</p>
<p>2 friends had them, one blew the engine up (literally and figuratively) at least 3 times. killed it finally by throwing a piston rod through the engine (dented the hood. no idea how he managed it.)</p>
<p>the other got ran into a mail box.</p>
<p>then they both decided that 9000 turbos were the way to go.</p>
<p>not much left after that. they were fun though; a girl i dated for a few years after high-school had a 9000 aero, which was a torque monster.</p>
<p>fun to drive, but definately not my cup o tea.</p>
<p>/saab: hate them or love them, nothing in-between.<br>
/hate</p> <p><a href="http://cyanics.com">cyanics</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the 2nd and 3rd commenters are not closeted Saabophiles. Before GM bought the Saab car group, they studied why Saab's were selling to the population that used to purchase Oldsmobiles and Buicks (remember, they were called Yuppies at that time), and one thing they siezed on was the fact that the hood opened this way. It was a way of minimizing the gaps in the front of the car, and had clean lines. They adopted this for the then new Buick LeSabre.<div class="comment-video-thumb"><a class="vlink" href="javascript:toggleVideoComment('ouJk0WJIxSc')"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/ouJk0WJIxSc/1.jpg" /></a><br /><a id="ylink_ouJk0WJIxSc" href="javascript:toggleVideoComment('ouJk0WJIxSc')">+ Watch video</a></div><div class="comment-video" id="yvid_ouJk0WJIxSc" style="display: none;"><object width="425" height="355"><param value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ouJk0WJIxSc&autoplay=1" name="movie"/><param name="wmode" value="transparent"/><embed width="425" height="355" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ouJk0WJIxSc&autoplay=1" wmode="transparent"/></object></div></p> <p><a href="http://">UDMan</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I don't care how many nerdy professors and aging Berkley radicals drove these, that is still one HOT looking car.</p> <p>ranwhenparked</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ah. Back when Saabs were actually quirky Swedish cars, not warmed over GM badge engineering specials.</p> <p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/sdhavoc">grzydj</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the hood operation is similar to my old E30s'</p> <p><a href="http://blip.tv/file/520446">Mark Arnold</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>GM made a HUGE mistake with the 9-2x. Here's my 2 cents, arm-chair corporate QB, hind sight opinion: They should have put a little more time into the 9-2x instead of rushing a rebadged Impreza that was not to impressive, they should have put the ignition on the floor, made it a hatchback instead of a wagon and made the styling more traditionally Saab. Although everyone seems to love wagons, I think they should have made it a wagonback/liftback/hatchback like the 99 and 900. Also, it should have been only available with the hi-end wrx engine. Wouldn't that have garnered more sales? Correct me if I'm wrong.</p> <p>macecalrissian</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I saw this in an issue of "Hot SAABs and Swedish Muscle"</P> <p><a href="http://www.wingmen.tv">Indiana Bento and the lost Temple of Citroens</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5297792">stuntpuppy</a>: No it is not...you know all the belts are at the firewall. How else would you reach them easy?</p> <p><a href="http://n/a">JantheMan</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:38:20 EDT]]></pubDate>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I've been trying to find a good 900 Turbo vert with a manual for awhile with little luck.</P> <p>EndlessMike</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I knew they had quirks - ignition placement, etc, but that hood closure is idiotic.</P> <p><a href="n/a">stuntpuppy</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea the bonnet opened like that...rather odd.</p> <p><a href="n/a">racerx</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:32:52 EDT]]></pubDate>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I lurve me that Saab 99 rally car. Grassroots Motorsports has project Saab 99 that they've built into a wicked cool rallycross machine.</P> <p>elwood</p>]]></description>
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