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Would You Buy A V6 'Muscle Car'?

SiddheshwariHaerk — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:30:03 EDT

Comment on Would You Buy A V6 'Muscle Car'? So long as it performs as well as my 1987 Buick GN does, I'd buy one! I get 24mpg or so on the highway if I'm easy on the boost. I can pull into Atco and rip off mid 11's all night long(with some minor modifications), then drive it back home.A Turbo'd or SC V6 car is about the only non V-8 I'd consider to be a muscle car..

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AldisBritomartis — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:30:46 EDT

Comment on Would You Buy A V6 'Muscle Car' Hi, I had a 1992 Ford Mustang GT and just traded it in on a newer GT. I was on a vacation a couple years ago and rented a Mustang with a V6 and there is NO comparison. I would never consider a V6 and to be honest, having owned a 60's muscle car with a rebuilt racing engine when I was in college decades ago, I am so spoiled from those days, that only a SVT Cobra or a Shelby GT can even come close to what I would really like in performance. If it takes over 5 seconds from 0-60 or over 14 seconds for a 1/4 mile it's TOO SLOW. Steve, Muscle Car Mania

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Maymar — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:26:44 EDT

Technically, isn't a Muscle Car an intermediate with the engine from a full-size. Admittedly, that makes the Toyota Camry (which uses the same V6 as the Avalon) a muscle car, which is just depressing.

But if I can afford it, if I like how it drives, I'll drive anything. G-forces are more fun than semantics.

Maymar

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mytdawg — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:50:52 EDT

I've got a 4 cylinder muscle car. That was the first thing I thought of when I drove it. It drives like a muscle car, it rattles like a muscle car, it accelerates like a muscle car. It has a cheap, no frills interior like a muscle car. Fortunately it stops and steers a little better than a muscle car. It needs a better aftermarket shifter like my muscle cars. It has tons of low end torque like a muscle car.

It doesn't really sound like a muscle car though, more like an angry Hoover.

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Movado — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:28:21 EDT

an exotic European - definitely, a rice rocket - perhaps, domestic, well, they are neither sports, nor cars - just rubbish, thanks for asking though.

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FuzzyPlushroom — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:13:19 EDT

@Porcubimmer 4 lyfe!: Sure, I'd take a rumbly, torquey V6.

Turbodiesel.

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turbo zero — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:05:30 EDT

@Euromobile: Until they stuck a 308 in it!

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turbo zero — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:01:54 EDT

@stephdumas: I was going to suggest the Charger too, here's one in a colour specially chosen for UDMan:

[www.aussiecoupes.com]

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DWMILLER — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:36:12 EDT

A V-6 IS LIKE A FEMALE BODY BUILDER-HAS EVERYTHING BUT BALLS.

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Novaload — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:28:40 EDT

Why settle for only 8?

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hootjigga — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:08:31 EDT

Shelby in a V6, Enzo in a Fiat. Deal.

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chrismcdowell25 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:14:37 EDT

It is fine to have a nice fast car with a v6 or turboed v4 but their not muscle cars. You have to have the rumbling V8 it is more of the sound and feeling than the speed and handling. It is not necessarily a bad car if it isnt a muscle car infact it is better in most all performance areas but the muscle car is a class. And that class has a V8 and is all about the sound and feeling of the car which it would not be if it didnt meet certain requirements. They are american made. They handle like crap. Putting in a v6 to make it more economical brings a car out of the Muscle car class. Muscle cars must eat fuel, burn rubber, be american, Have a certain look and styling. There are rules to classes and if you change the rules enough it is a new class. I think the v6 would be a big enough change of the rules to entail a new class.

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croaker1 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:45:50 EDT

I think that it is doable, but then again I am an inline 6 nut. I used to trounce V-8's with my MkIV Supra. (Yes modded but so were some of them). I guy used to know used to trounce Hennessey Venoms down in Arizona. And I should point out that this was in teh best race format for Muscle Cars - straight up 1/4 and 1/2 mile drag racing. So V-8 and V-10 doesn't exclude outhers from being "Muscle" like cars.

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hoontastic — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:35:07 EDT

8's for best sound.

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Euromobile — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:46:06 EDT

@stephdumas: That Chevrolet Opala looks remarkably similar to the Holden Torana, which it may well be related to. Incidentally, the Torana was a very successful six-cylinder Aussie muscle car.

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bruxell — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:24:04 EDT

@Ford Tempo Fanatic: This is without doubt the best logic I've seen applied today.

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TurboBrick — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:06:47 EDT

@I'm so Malaise I can't taste it!!!!!!!!!11: I might give you the Capri, but Taunus or Commodore are about as far from a sports car as a Fairmont Futura.

Lets put it this way, a muscle car is one where you take a relatively ordinary car, sporty design or not, and cram a monster motor on the nose without redesigning much else. Base model Mustang, sporty but not muscle, add bigger motor = muscle.

Volvo 242 with a pathetic B19A, add B21FT and 60% more power = en svenska muskelbil.

4 banger Tempest, add 389 V8 = Muscle.

Designing the car from the ground up to handle the beast you're going to cram in there... no, that's now a sports car.

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TKWarrior — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:53:53 EDT

My 05 stang surprises people all the time. The only challengers that don't get blown away are cars that cost at least 4 times the amount, or had 4 times the work done to it anyway. I've had fun with it in 3 years and loved every one of the 52K miles I put on it.

I haven't had much time/money to throw at it, but I was able to get it to 320+HP pretty easy. And I have yet to find one person not impressed by the sound from the dual exhaust.

I've gotten a lot of compliments and heard 'this is how muscle cars are meant to be' or 'that's an awesome GT'. I then know that's my que to pop the hood and show my 4.0L, 24V, V muthaf-cking 6.

Wanna say my car is not a 'real' muscle car? Fine. But someone stated it best here that future muscle will be measured in "amperage and kilowatts." Now go back to your pointless argument.

I'll keep loving my car no matter what some so called 'purist' thinks. Hell, I'd put a high-powered electric motor in it just to piss them off even more.

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nichomiz — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:45:32 EDT

If you wanted to add some truck AWD hoonage, add the Typhoon and Syclone as well.

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nichomiz — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:43:16 EDT

Three letters...GNX. Nuff said.

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clank-o-tron — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:19:45 EDT

@turbodan: Funny you should call out boosted 4s... I keep saying that I'd trade my turbo'd 4 for Audi's lovely 4.2L 6cyl in a heartbeat. Boosted 4s take a lot of awareness to drive; if you screw up a shift it's hard to make it back up.

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dolo54 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:12:30 EDT

@Ω βгåғғ™: Funny cause I have referred to my 300zx as 'japanese muscle'. But I have to agree, it's not a muscle car. It does have a bit of muscle car feel to it though, including a nice burble at idle.

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litewerk — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:03:30 EDT

Another one for YES! I'd love a turbo or twin-turbo V-6. Have owned and still love the Turbo Mopars (4 cyl) of the 1980's. Even had a turbo Spirit, the 1991 and 1992 Spirit, with a 224-hp turbo 2.2L, and a 5-speed. Awesome sleepers.

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stephdumas — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:59:49 EDT

We could also add some muscle-cars with 6-cyl from the Southern Hemisphere. Down Under from Oz(Australia) there's the Aussie Charger with its Hemi 6 [en.wikipedia.org] From La Pampa of Argentina, the Renault Torino [en.wikipedia.org] and from Brazil, the Chevrolet Opala [en.wikipedia.org]

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FatBraff — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:50:46 EDT

@ReductiveNut: a 300zx is not a muscle car... it is a Japanese Sports car...

A GT-R is not a muscle car, its a big japanese sports car
An old Celica GT is not a muscle car, it is a classic japanese sports car

It has been said here before and will be said approximately 35 more times in this thread...
Muscle Car = Classic American Iron, Big V8, RWD

NOTHING ELSE IS A MUSCLE CAR

FatBraff

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ReductiveNut — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:33:37 EDT

The V6 muscle car is definitely a "muscle Car" the gnx and 300ZX are prime examples

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michaelfocht — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:25:04 EDT

Never. Never, I tell you, NEVER!!!!!

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akirachan — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:16:02 EDT

@LamerX: Ditto...Beautiful example of a Skyline GT-R. One of my favorite incarnations.

As for V8 or V6, I have no preference. I didn't grow up in the 60s. 4 cylinder is fine, especially if they're flat-fours!

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Scroggs! — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:55:14 EDT

As long as it drives the rear wheels or all 4 wheels, who cares about the number of cylinders?

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TexanIdiot25 [Hunting for Lemons] — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:54:19 EDT

@Zandr: In the end, Muscle was putting the biggest engine you had in the smallest cars. Chevy put some big ass motor in the Camaro.

I call the COPO camaro, very muscle

@UDMan: Those two have always teetered. The Turbo Firebird and GNX..

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Euromobile — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:31:43 EDT

@saabophile2: As you would expect, fives sit somewhere in between. They definately have more power and torque than fours, but the fuel economy is better than a six. The sound is probably just a matter of taste. I had a Focus ST go howling past me a couple of weeks ago and I thought it sounded fantastic.

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25571 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:31:07 EDT

good question, but i think i would buy a V-6 muscle car before i bought an automatic "muscle car". once the manual tranny is taken out, it loses is muscle car status.

25571

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manic2 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:30:31 EDT

Hey! A small displacement pushrod V8 is probably just as economical as a fancy DOHC V6.

How about a 3.0 liter OHV V8, add direct injection and cylinder deactivation and you've got 250 horses of cheap efficient power.

What you gain is the glorious iconic sound of the cross-crank V8. THAT is a muscle car.

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petersterncan — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:29:07 EDT

I would buy a V6 muscle car as long as it is a modern V6. A Mustang with the Duratech 35? Absolutely. A Mustang with the Ford Explorer 2 valve V6? No thanks.

I would even buy a 4cyl muscle car... again if it had a modern engine. A Mustang with with an 88hp 2 valve engine similar to the one in an older Ford Ranger? No thanks. A Mustang with the same 274HP 4 cylinder that's in the Mazdaspeed 6? Absolutely!

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will — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:25:54 EDT

hmm....i'm not sure it is a "muscle car" without an eight. that said, some of my absolute favorite cars have sixes: e46 M3, 997 gt3, nsx

will

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Parramore64 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:13:31 EDT

@UDMan: My buddy has an Indy T/A (alcohol injected, bigger turbo now) and owned a GN before that.

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buttons — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:13:22 EDT

@Rust-MyEnemy: Yessir, that pretty much nails it.

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saabophile2 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:07:29 EDT

@Euromobile: Inline-fives might be another option. An oft-overlooked engine type, the five sounds fantastic, runs more smoothly than a four and offers more power, yet it is more compact than a six.

I always thought the inline 5 offered the power of a 4 with the fuel economy of a 6, and have a weird exhaust note.

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SRekauqh — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:02:11 EDT

@DeeJayQueue: Bingo. Difference between muscle and sports cars.

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UDMan — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:00:55 EDT

Well here are a couple of real V-6 American Muscle Cars...

I don't think anyone will argue about these as being true Muscle Cars!

UDMan

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slantsick — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:00:19 EDT

I vote no, but only because any "muscle car" I would be interested in would be a "muscle-delete" grandma car, (think Dart Swinger or Chevelle 300) and they came with straight sixes (preferably of the slanted persuasion). ANY new car= FAIL, as far as I'm concerned.

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s14kouki — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:59:59 EDT

When I think about Muscle cars, the first thing that comes to mind is starting them. That rumble as they come to life. What really defines it for me, though is the shake of the whole car. Anyone who's been one understands.

While a V-6 will produce power like a V-8 did, it surely won't shake the car the same way. Muscle cars are supposed to be mean, waiting to bite your head off if you try to make them do something they don't like. Today's retro examples are too refined and try to be everything for everyone.

While I usually spit on the Mustang for retaining its live axle, maybe Ford should be applauded for trying to keep some of the original spirit alive.

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Rust-MyEnemy — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:58:18 EDT

@TexanIdiot25: I can feel my chest hair growing just watching that video..

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Zandr — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:57:09 EDT

@I'm so Malaise I can't taste it!!!!!!!!!11: "They were mostly larger vehicles, with really just the Camaros, Mustangs, and Novas as exceptions."

Which are, of course, "Pony", not "Muscle".

Hey, if we're being pedantic here.

Zandr

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TexanIdiot25 [Hunting for Lemons] — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:55:10 EDT

@Rust-MyEnemy: COTD

@LamerX: @Teds: TUNERS, not Muscle!

AAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMERRRRRRRRRRICCCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAAAAA

TexanIdiot25 [Hunting for Lemons]

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dolo54 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:47:33 EDT

After consideration...

Sports car: any number of cylinders, coupe, no live-axle.
(i.e. Genesis)

Sports sedan: any number of cylinders, rwd/awd, 4-door, no live axle. (Kizashi)

Muscle car: v8, rwd, American, big.

Anything else is just "sporty" or perhaps "sportish"

dolo54

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Starlton Heston, Gushing post-mother — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:43:53 EDT

@bswinfor:I m sooooo sure you need job security... how bout you hack some oil prices down for us??

@TurboBrick: All the cars you mentioned, fall into the Sports Car bucket homie.

I think safe equation is: fast + straight = muscle car

@LuciferV8: I'd also wager size matters a GREAT deal for the original thought of muscle cardom. They were mostly larger vehicles, with really just the Camaros, Mustangs, and Novas as exceptions.

GNX= only truly considerable V6 muscle car. Cause seriously one would believe it was an 8!!

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LamerX — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:42:00 EDT

Who says muscle even has to be American? Got some Japanese muscle right here.

LamerX

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Teds — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:38:58 EDT

uhhhhhh hello... Nissan GT-R... I think that is a muscle car. It certainly has the same pony car proportions.

Maybe the answer is yes V6s in muscle cars but only with turbos. That covers Grand Nationals, Supras, GT-Rs etc...

No plane jane v6s in Mustangs though for obvious secretary car joke reasons

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dolo54 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:36:55 EDT

@Rust-MyEnemy: second on the COTD.

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Elhigh — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:36:29 EDT

Yeah, I'd drive it. If an old Offy can win races with just four, and FoMoCo is dedicated to building their power with blown 6s, then I guess cylinder count doesn't really mean that much.

If beautiful noises are your thing, the Taurus SHO had 'em, that fabulous rip farting out of the pipes on the family grocery-getter was one hell of a shock.

It ain't the cylinder count that makes it muscle. It's the car, the concept behind it, and the driver. A Honda 600 can be muscle with the right treatment, but that takes a lot more driver/owner involvement. Conversely, a C6 Corvette is 100% Milquetoast if you've got Grannie soft-pedaling all the way to Wednesday Mass.

Some of it's the car, but muscle is mostly what you make of it.

Elhigh

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dolo54 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:35:50 EDT

Is the Genesis a "muscle car"? To me "muscle car" implies American, and yes, v8, oh and shitty handling, live axle, etc. (don't get me wrong I like the mustang gt with it's shitty handling). If not then I guess my 300zx v6 qualifies as a v6 muscle car. It sounds like one... sets off car alarms.

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boosted-lego-wagon — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:35:18 EDT

@Rust-MyEnemy: COTD

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CSX321 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:32:57 EDT

There are definitely two, or maybe three, schools of thought. The most conservative reserves the title for the classic American cars of the 60s and early 70s. Others apply it to fast modern V8s, as well. The loosest definition is just "cheap and fast," whatever the age or motive power.

I don't know that I have a strong feeling about which definition is used. Being young-ish (42), I don't have a close personal tie to the older cars, so I like turbo fours. I can get to 60 in 5 seconds flat and still get 30 mpg on the highway, in a car that cost me less than our minivan. But then I like being Different.

CSX321

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rkwadd — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:32:08 EDT

No.

But it's a moot point. Here's my muscle car formula: A big, heavy engine over the front wheels driving the back wheels. Makes a lot of noise. People think you're a dick. In this day and age, they aren't even that fast compared to other cars.

So as long as the formula suits a very specific, idiotic purpose, why bother fudging the definition for V6s?

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Rust-MyEnemy — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:31:08 EDT

Muscle car means V8.

Steak should be rare.

Soda shouldn't be lo-cal

Beer shouldn't be lo-alcohol.

Houses should have two storeys.

Sharks should be angry.

Realtors should be dickheads.

Good music should be played loud.

Powerboats should be deep-vee.

Films should have car-chases.

Girls should wear miniskirts.

Tattoos shouldn't be concealed.

Art should be expressive.

Otherwise:- What the fucks the point?

For this ignorant, naive Englishman V6 equals Sports Coupe, Muscle Car means a big, simple, pushrod, normally aspirated, 305 cube or bigger, 95 octane V8.

I'm a simple man of simple means.

Rust-MyEnemy

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no_slushbox — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:29:21 EDT

A new V6 Mustang can be had for $15,994 - I would buy that (this includes AC, CD player, power windows and side airbags).

[www.golfmillford.com]

Seriously, 210 HP in a RWD car for $16K is better than 200 HP in a >$20K FWD car (i.e. Civic Si, GTI) in my book.

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0ctan3 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:28:26 EDT

The NSX is the best V6 automobile ever made, but nobody would mistake it for a muscle car.

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P161911 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:27:36 EDT

@Parramore46: The torque numbers are why the V-6 should be forced induction. My T-Bird S/C had 315 torque @2600 rpm. Made for a nice kick down low.

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Bentos, Der Frischmacher! — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:27:11 EDT

Maybe its cause modern Muscle cars don't do it for me...and I have driven a G37 which is awesome.

Bentos, Der Frischmacher!

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crevans — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:26:26 EDT

@Porcubimmer 4 lyfe!:
While I agree that a big displacement v8 (or something equivalent in torque - maybe a v6 turbodiesel) is necessary for a musclecar, there's a replacement for displacement - 15000 rpm. 600cc sportbikes have proven this to me.

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Ben Simons — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:17:24 EDT

@DeeJayQueue: here here!

Ben Simons

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ChristianGM — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:17:23 EDT

Muscle cars are very specific, they are basically engine, wheels and steering wheel. Anything else is superfluous.
A muscle car is supposed to sound like it's running on firecrackers, and a V6 just doesn't sound the same. I would get a V6 in every other car but when it comes to muscle cars it has to be a V8.

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Parramore64 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:17:07 EDT

@LuciferV8: I'll second that. A muscle car is made of more than the engine.

However I wouldn't buy a modern V6 muscle car without forced induction. Yeah, the Hyundai Genesis has 300hp, but look at the torque numbers.

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reefer — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:16:38 EDT

as much trash as I have talked about V6 "muscle cars", no.

But with 300hp V6's coming to the game I may change my mind... hopefully they make one that sounds as good as a V8 while being hammered on.

reefer

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hapless — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:15:35 EDT

We don't need to over-analyze this.

No.
Just no.

hapless

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TurboBrick — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:07:34 EDT

@badco/LoJ: Now there's an idea for an intresting project, find a 4-cyl 3rd gen Camaro and turbo it...

TurboBrick

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LuciferV8 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:06:41 EDT

When I think muscle car, I think passenger sedan heavy FR vehicle that's really fast in a straight line.

If a 6cyl. car can do this (think GNX), then it counts as one.

LuciferV8

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TurboBrick — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:03:49 EDT

I had a V6 Mustang, this was one with the better heads so it wasn't a slow car, and the engine note was meaty enough. I also had a chance to drive a V8 Mustang at the same time, and driving it could only be described as coitus interruptus - as soon as the engine would start to come alive, you were already at extralegal speeds and you had to stop. So it was a completely pointless car in the end.

For good examples of six cylinder muscle you have to go across the pond: Ford Capri, Ford Taunus GT coupe, Opel/Lotus Omega, original Ford Sierra XR4, BMW E28/E34 M5's, Vauxhall Firenza Magnum, Opel Commodore coupe... being a muscle car is more about attitude than just the number of cylinders.

TurboBrick

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TriShield — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:03:38 EDT

The Hyundai coupe and Suzuki concept are about as far from "muscle cars" as it can get.

Muscle cars are an AMERICAN instutition and are made by American automakers and their subsidaries. They are unique to these companies.

These two Japanese cars are just that, Japanese sports cars and ricey coupes for people that like ricey things.

I'll put it this way, a Japanese attempt at an authentic "muscle car" would be about as legitmate as an American attempt at an authentic "anime" show.

Both have been tried, both have failed miserably.

I'm disappointed that Jalopnik would even put the idea out there.

TriShield

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LTDScott, Porcubimmer pilot — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:00:22 EDT

@P161911: Vipers and UPS trucks sound very similar to me.

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FatBraff — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:56:29 EDT

They are not Muscle Cars... call them something else please.
True muscle was built back in that magical time (P.O. - Pre Omega Braff) when American automakers were competing to have the baddest, loudest, fastest hunk of iron on the block. It was a glorious era for American Automobiles but it has passed, and the Muscle Car term should apply only to vehicles of that era, that fit that mold.

We need a new term for modern day, High HP vehicles that are less than 8cyl.

I nominate the term "Athletic Car"...

"Hey did you see that new GT-R, pretty bulky looking but with that engine it is still pretty athletic..."

"Hey Jim, I thought you were going to buy a muscle car, why did you go with the new Porsche Turbo over there?" "Well Bill... I love the old Muscle Cars, but after thinking about it, I really wanted something more athletic and Porsche has a great history of athletic cars..."

FatBraff

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badco/LoJ — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:56:01 EDT

I think that any new options in powertrains in these cars, whether you call them "musclecars" or not, are a great thing.

Hell, bring on the 2.0l turbo 4 Ecotec Camaro and Ecoboost Mustang.

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Would You Buy A V6 'Muscle Car'?

TexanIdiot25 [Hunting for Lemons] — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:55:45 EDT

So the general opinion is!

V6s now are as good as outdated V8 10 years ago.

Awesome.

This is why V6 ftl in terms of a Muscle car. For those who say V8's aren't worth their weight, go see the 700hp Ultima GTR. All motor small-block chevy, in a street legal car that shatters records held by Bugatti's Vyron.

The Corvette's all aluminum LS7. Find me another stock motor that puts out 500hp in the same size space the LS7 takes up. Sorry, Lambo's 500hp V10 is much larger. Less torque to boot.

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SundaySunday — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:50:18 EDT

I'm debating this very issue, regarding my need to get a new summer fun car. I'm considering the V6 Mustang as it's a bit cheaper than the GT and will get better mileage. I have never owned a car with more than 6 cylinders. I've owned 3 cars with turbocharged 4's, so I think I'd be content driving around with "only" 6.

Of course, there's also a classic car with a 351 V8 that's been calling my name like a siren's song, hence the debate.

SundaySunday

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P161911 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:48:42 EDT

I think the V-6 should be forced induction. As a matter of fact I have owned a couple: '81 Buick Regal Turbo Coupe (Malaise Muscle), and a '92 T-Bird S/C 5 speed. The Buick was good for its era. The T-Bird was a great stealth cruiser.

I agree nothing beats the sound of a V-8. My personal conclusion, ist hat for an engine to sound GOOD it needs to have an even number of cylinders per bank. This would include: I-4, I-6, V-8, V-12. As cool as a Viper is, it just sounds like two old Audis with bad mufflers.

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danio3834 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:44:02 EDT

Power is power, V6s arent bad. The base Mustang V6 is just as fast as the GTs V8 of 10 years ago.

I prefer V8s myself, but a V6 can get the job done.

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boosted-lego-wagon — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:43:56 EDT

@turbodan: But the 300ZTT is not really a muscle car: it's a sports car.

Muscle cars hand out noogies, your 300Z knows karate.

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FLB — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:43:00 EDT

V6 in a sportscar? Absolutely.
V6 in a muscle car? Absolutely not.

FLB

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danio3834 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:39:42 EDT

id buy one, for my wife.

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turbodan — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:32:26 EDT

As the owner of a boosted Z31 300ZX I heartily agree that V6 power, especially when turbocharged, is more than sufficient. I very much enjoy my fuel economy of low 20mpg (combined) and ~5 sec 0-60 sprints. The car currently has cams, exhaust, and 11psi of boost on a fresh rebuild. Everybody who has ridden in or driven the car without knowledge of what it is assumes its powered by a big honkin' V8.

tl;dr Instant torque is nice, but I can wait a few hundred RPMs for mine (not a fan of boosted 4's though... that's too long to wait :-)

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Schm is not particularly sure what he is ranting about. . . — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:31:33 EDT

To tell you the truth, I dont really care how many cylinders a car has, only about handling characteristc and driveability (GTI anyone?) But to be truly DEFINED as a "Muscle Car," one would belive it would need a V8. It dosen't mean that thoes with lesser cylinders are lesser cars, although those in your V6 econo-Chargers are really pushing your luck, but just arent muscle cars.

The definition of muscle cars says "A muscle car is an automobile with a high horse power engine, modest weight, capable of producing high levels of acceleration," which is true and all, but is a Ferrari a muscle car? I think not. Its all about the attitude, demeanor, the inability to go around corners at a moderate rate of speed, and pure tire-buring, torque monsters.

Schm is not particularly sure what he is ranting about. . .

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cyanics — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:27:18 EDT

muscle car is just a power to weight ratio.

besides, ever driven a lotus exige? 4 banger, and more power than your teeth can contain.

look at the old toyota Supra (gen 4) which had 300 horses on a turbo v6 and could easily be turned into 400+. or the 300Z TT.

i would happily call those muscle cars.

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YankBoffin — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:24:47 EDT

The V8 is becoming what V12, V16s, and giant straight-8s were before WWII: an extravagence. V6s (and boosted 4-, 5-, and 6-pots) are the new V8. 30-40 years back, a V8 was required for adequate power, particularly for larger cars. Now many would argue a V6 is plenty powerful for most applications.

However, to answer the question, no. Sports car? Sure, any kind of powerplant is great as long as it's fun, but a "muscle car" has a specific formula to it. It's not a "sports car". As the V8 engine falls out of favor, so does the "muscle car." They are quite conjoined.

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FreeMan — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:23:03 EDT

Don't assume all V6s are low torque. My minivan, yes, minivan, will spin the tires on dry pavement from any traffic light. It's got 173K miles on it, I believe it's bone stock (I got it used, but come on, it's a friggen minivan!), naturally aspirated, and I giggle like a school-girl every time I do it! I can haul 7 people, and I'm willing to lay good money that it stops & corners better than any 60s American Muscle Car.

No, I'm not really sure that there was a point in me telling you all this - I just giggle every time I think about burnouts in a FWD minivan fer cryin' out loud!

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KingRoyale — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:21:24 EDT

If you ask 'define a muscle-car' to a vast majority of anyone from any generation and they will almost instantly first think that a V8 will need to be the powerplant. You can thank American history for that.

Is it possible to take the same car, but with a different drivetrain, and make it perform as good or better than the V8 version? Yes. But would people call it a muscle-car?

To be honest, I'd say definitely. But most likely only in instances when the car itself is something that has the 'muscle-car heritage,' such as a Mustang, Camaro, Firebird, Challenger, GTO, Javelin, etc. (and their international counterparts).

Would I scoff at a muscle-car that has an engine other than a V8? Hell no.

Does my '65 Mustang with a 200 I6 get called a muscle-car even after people hear that it has a made-for-women-going-5-miles-to-and-from-the-grocery-store engine? All the time. But perhaps a long-tube, dual-outlet header, 2" mandrel-bent straight pipes into 26" Smithys and 3" tips will do that when mixed in with a variety of other appearances.

My only gripe?
Quit using damn V6s as entry-level powerplants on the American companies' 'performance potential models' and bring back the tried and true I6s!

KingRoyale

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jameslutz — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:19:59 EDT

My V6 Supercharged bonneville can be rather fun at times.

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GameBreaker — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:18:09 EDT

And yes I know, the Supra isn't a V6, but it's a 6 cylinder none the less.

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Parkington — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:18:07 EDT

Why not fit a turbo I4 while at it?

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TPSreports — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:17:17 EDT

Given rising fuel costs, overall savings and the improvement of V6's would you buy a V6 muscle car?

What a stupid question. Do the math:

$37,320 = Dodge Challenger MSRP

15,000 miles driven a year

Average fuel economy of 20 mpg since you'll stomp on it.

15,000 miles / 20 mpg = 750 gallons a year

750 gallons * $3.50 a gallon = $2625 a year.

If you can afford a $37,000 car, you can afford $2600 a year in gas.

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GameBreaker — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:17:15 EDT

Well between my friends old 800hp Grand National that I got to drive, or a friend's 700hp Supra... Yes, Yes I would, but it sure as hell better have a turbo the size of a small baby in there.

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Mad_Science — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:15:54 EDT

How about a Diesel V6 muscle car?

(Sure, but only if it handles poorly.)

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piththeelder — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:15:04 EDT

I'd take a screaming turbo I6 over a V8 but I agree it doesn't really embody "muscle car". I think a muscle car is necessarily a big rwd retro V8 American car.

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bcardone — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:13:40 EDT

@Uncle_Bo:
You say " unless we are redefining the term..." i think in our day and age we have begun to and need to continue to redefine what a muscle car is. in a lot of ways it is similar to the concept of the crossover vehicle. many people who were all about hardcore, truck based suvs, are now switching to crossovers because of their better practicality, usability, and efficiency by comparison. many "suvs" are in fact crossovers that the car company continues to call an suv.

i think the same will become true for muscle cars. the issue has become that so often sports/performance cars end up putting so much pressure on muscle cars to handle better, be lighter and more responsive, and more efficient, that the true muscle car is on it's way out IMO, and we will be left with the sports/performance cars only.

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F_munk — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:13:17 EDT

Raw horsepower is only good for e-bragging and magazine articles. Horsepower to weight ratio and how the power is transferred to where rubber meets road is what's important. For example, the GT-R is heavy, puts out less HP than the competition, but is faster on the track. For years, decades, we've been brainwashed into thinking a performance car has to have gobs of power, suck a bunch of gas. Coming from an engineering and advertising background, I know it is just not true. When there is a will, there is a way. Right now, most in the car business don't have the will.

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bswinfor — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:09:32 EDT

Just look back 10 years...the V6 family sedan of now is making the same or more horsepower that was very respectable from a V8 in the late 90's. Nissan has proven time and again with the Z family that a six-cylinder engine is beyond capable. At this point in my life, I don't know that I'll buy another vehicle with more than six-cylinders...though since I work for an oil company I'm obligated to encourage the rest of you to hoon your asses off in the name of job security.

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Euromobile — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:09:09 EDT

A V8 is part of the muscle car vibe, largely because of tradition, but also the sound and torque that they provide. A V6 isn't a traditional muscle car feature, nor will it ever deliver that sound. With forced induction it could certainly produce the requisite torque.

I think an inline-six would be more desirable in a muscle car (especially with forced induction), as they sound great and could also deliver the torque in an appropriate state of tune. Additionally, US car makers offered inline-sixes during the muscle car era, so there is some heritage there, even if the sixes were historically the 'economy' models.

I know I'll get lambasted for this, but turbodiesel engines would make sense in muscle cars; you'd get a gutsy sound and masses of torque out of them.

Inline-fives might be another option. An oft-overlooked engine type, the five sounds fantastic, runs more smoothly than a four and offers more power, yet it is more compact than a six.

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biminitwst — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:05:45 EDT

A V6 is OK, if it gets the job done. My warmed up V6 Pontiac is pretty quick. It sounds like a Corvair.
I like the smoothness and the sound of an inline six better.
But wouldn't it be nice if someone made an affordable [think Miata, base Corvette] car with a small, say, 3.0 liter, V-12?
Now THATS the sound of music!

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Picarso — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:04:43 EDT

I think by definition a Muscle car has a V8. I think the real question is can a a car with a V6 be called a muscle car?

Inline 6 > V6

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Uncle_Bo is El Commentamino — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:04:06 EDT

Certainly V6's and fours installed in sporty coupes sell. Several were mentioned above. But a sporty coupe does not a muscle car make. It's not just about form factor but about style, image and street status in a uniquely American mix.

There is no way a Hyundai or Porsche could ever be a muscle car. Their brand images simply do not mix with the traditional definition.

Unless we are redefining the term, and the image that goes with it, a muscle car can only be an American performance car with a V8 engine (rare exceptions notwithstanding).

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POLAЯZSMAЯTAMINO — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:02:00 EDT

It can be done...

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graverobber- Same great taste, new low price! — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:01:49 EDT

A V8 is perfect for straight line acceleration, but a turbo 4 or supercharged V6 in a smaller, more compact platform is probably better when the road gets twisty. I guess for a Muscle Car, I'd rather have a V8, but overall, I'd rather have something that goes around corners almost as fast as it does a straight line.

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Gerard Drewpardieu — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:01:14 EDT

Yes, muscle cars need a V8 to be a muscle car. And gold chains. And pick-up like handling.

Come on. Muscle is muscle. A V6 can give you that with better handling and mileage.

They do need to work on the sound though. Not enough companies tune their V6s to sound sexy.

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okvol — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:59:09 EDT

I did enjoy the grunting low-end power smoothness of the 225 slant six. And the leaking spark plug wells kept the low distributer water-proofed enough to drive through a flood. From a physics perspective, an inline 6 is smoother than any V-8. It takes a V12 to match it.

I also understand there are many lovers of the 4.0L Jeep inline 6. Where are you guys?

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tanooki2003 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:58:14 EDT

I would take a turbo 4 over any v6 or v8. As much as I love and miss the sound of a v8 I was able to put a lot of people driving v6 and v8's to shame when I had a turbo 4.

V8 engines have a lot of weight and are very poor at maximizing the amount of output vs their weight, not to mention it adds to the curb weight.

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DeeJayQueue — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:57:54 EDT

everyone's talking about subarus and audis and porsches. I think the argument here is semantic in nature. Is a V6 a viable engine in a performance car? Hell yes. You can make a V6 have the same numbers a V8's got with the right parts. But the reasons to do this, lighter weight, better fuel economy, belie the whole point of a muscle car.

I say, if you want to put V6s in Mustangs and Challengers go ahead, but call them Sports Cars or Performance Cars, not Muscle Cars.

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Mazda-Eric-with-1cup-arugula — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:57:37 EDT

V6...Muscle? This does not compute

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lascauxcaveman — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:56:27 EDT

The musclecars of tomorrow will be measured in terms of amperage and kilowatts.

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Rotang — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:56:02 EDT

Muscle cars aren't about compromise. They're about performance. If you want to sacrifice your manhood to save a couple pennies then go get a 'sporty commuter'. But DON'T call it a muscle car.

Rotang

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TexanIdiot25 [Hunting for Lemons] — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:53:57 EDT

Sure.

If there were more V6's like the infamous 4.3L Vortec V6. For it's day, 245 fl lb at 2500 rpm was pretty nice. Now, you bump that HP into the 300s by way of a slightly better cam, and massaging those heads, and torque would be off the chain, easily touching on V8 levels.

^Smell my burnt rubber.

Until then, if it's from 'murika, and it's a "muscle car", V8 and don't negate!

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M0L0TOV — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:53:55 EDT

Just wait till the question is, would you drive a diesel muscle car.

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boosted-lego-wagon — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:53:26 EDT

4 cyl turbos have so much more tuning potential. I'd always want to have at least the option of building up my vehicle the way I like it.
Oh, and the B5 S4 -type engine Ash's talking about is way torquier than the current range of high-revving V8s you get in the RS4 or new M3.

Having said that, I don't think the V6's are muscle cars. Muscle isn't just performance, it's also show-off. Think Muscle Beach, rather than the Olympics. The V8 badge, the feeling of being pushed back in your seat immediately from idle, the rumble like a bowling ball caught in an industrial dryer, the inadvertent smoke show; you gotta have 'em all. Ever listened to a 350Z's V6 hum? Muscly? Nah.

I was just in the new GT-R though, and even though it's a TT V6, it does have the feel and appearance of a Muscle Car. It's huge, it kicks sand in the face of those girly-mahn 911s, and it doesn't drone like the Z or G35. One of those, I would buy.

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bcardone — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:53:24 EDT

absolutely, i actually have. i own an '88 supra turbo. 3.0L Inline 6, more power than the camaros and mustangs of the same year.

depending on how the new genesis coupe looks in person (in black) and how it drives, that will most likely be my next car. if i ca afford it, the other possibility will be the bmw 128i/135i.

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PhoneticLorin — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:52:38 EDT

"Never say never" and whatnot, but it would take a miracle.

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ratbark — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:52:24 EDT

Like you said, not everyone needs a V8. I've had plenty of fun in a V6 Mustang.

It's not how big your muscle is ... it's how you use it.

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j6r — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:49:56 EDT

I'd consider getting a new Camaro with the direct injection 4 cylinder turbo. It would be fun.

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Bo Darville — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:49:40 EDT

I have no problem with a V6 muscle car, as long as the HP and torque are there, along with a nice mellow sound. The VQ is a great example of torque and fuel economy together, and can sound pretty good. On the other hand, I rented a V6 Mustang the other day and have to say that was one of the worst engines I've experienced in a car.

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Ford Tempo Fanatic — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:48:52 EDT

You have to have a V8. V6's can be better, but, V8's are just. Better.

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FightingChance — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:48:35 EDT

Where are all the 6 cylinder sports cars?

This is something I don't quite get, but maybe sort of do. A company will field a V8 car with a lot of power, something like the Charger R/T, relying on it's halo effect and high MSRP to turn at least some profit. Then, the same company will make a 4 cylinder sports car, like a hot turbo hatch, because it is cheap to do since the platform is offset by sales of the economy version of the same car (Caliber SRT).

But so rare there is something in between. It's like a place where they can't make it cheap like the 4 cylinder car, but they are afraid to make it expensive because it doesn't have the cache of the 8 cylinder car.

Myself, I think a twin turbo 2010 Camaro V6 would be pretty sweet.

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TroutDeep — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:48:13 EDT

I'd only buy a V6 if it was strapped to the right car. Porsche makes flat sixes, and BMW does the inline thing, so the only V6 car left that I'd really car about is the G37 Coupe.

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SRekauqh — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:48:11 EDT

Um, no. Muscle needs 8 cylinders ('cept for the Buick). V6 "muscle cars" are for middle-aged women and wannabe kids.

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tts10driver — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:48:03 EDT

I'd consider 4's and 6's(inline or vees) because with the weight of today's and the projected future's v-8" muscle cars approaching and sometimes surpassing 2 tons and with todays gas over $3.25 in most areas....why not ? Bolt on a intercooled turbo or a supercharger kit and you can get more than the performance of the V-8...plus, you get better mileage and you save weight. The insurance rates are lower and imagine the look on the person next to you when or if they find out that all you had under the hood was a 4 or 6 cylinder ! Peace.

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grzydj — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:46:46 EDT

Inline six yes, V6, absolutely no way. I hate how V6's sound.

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jrhmobile — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:43:50 EDT

Buy, Hell I've built a couple of V6 musclecars.

Buick was pretty good at it too ... choose off a Grand National sometime ...

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smsolo1 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:43:00 EDT

especially if its turbocharged.

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cptgreg — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:42:46 EDT

Don't forget the original Mercedes 300SL Gullwing was powered by a slant 6 and could do around 150mph back in the mid-fifties.

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LTDScott, Porcubimmer pilot — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:42:36 EDT

As I said before, torque is a huge part of a muscle car. It's the tire-shredding hoonage potential that attracts a lot of people to this segment. If the V6 can offer similar torque, sure I'd take it. But excluding forced induction on a smaller motor, there is no replacement for displacement.

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sos10 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:40:33 EDT

I would buy a 4 cyl muscle car if available... the number of cyl is non important.. it is the driving pleasure that counts.

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stevecmh — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:40:23 EDT

i think with the new CAFE standards .. we may have to start changing our opioions of what a muscle car is.. A high HP V6 may become what a V8 is today.. sad but it may be true.. :(

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Ash78 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:35:38 EDT

One ride in an Audi 2.7TT with the APR Stage 3 kit convinced me. Of course, upkeep is another issue altogether...

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