PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion? - Jalopnik Comments

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

OddManOut — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:59:58 EST

No question...Starion.

I wanted one since I was 11...finally got one when I was 21 (a 1987 model). I only had it for about 4 years. Dropped massive cash on it (for the time) and never did get the front air dam fixed or the dents that the drunken teenage previous owner was kind enough to throw in for free. It had all kinds of problems (most of which were eventually solved by swapping in an '89 ECU about 6 months before I got rid of th old girl). But when she was running, man did she run. I owned her during the absolute height of the 'rice boy' days of the late 90s early 00s. So much fun, smoking riced out civics with a bone stock, cranky, and frequently leaky, Starion. My sweet girl from Japan...

But all good things...

I had to sell her. To the state actually. She wouldn't pass smog so I filed for the CAP program and the gov paid me $1000 to have her sent to the yard. I was sad she wouldn't run free anymore, but in a way happy that I got to put her to bed (I kept the shift knob though), knowing her parts would help a bunch of other Starions bring delight to people for years to come. The money went towards a year spent in Japan learning to speak Japanese. As it happens I lived in Aichi-ken, birth place of the Starion, in a little town called Okazaki, home of the worlds only Starion museum. It seemed a fitting trade off. Particularly considering it wasn't too long before I met another sweet Japanese girl (or 10...though one in particular);P

My one regret (aside from returning to the states) is that I'll never get to cruise with BOTH my J-girls at once. Ah well...can't have everything.

Ritsuko baby! Subarashi taiken wa doumo arrigato!

OddManOut

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

banpei — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:16:25 EST

@respawn: Actually I see prices dropping fast for US cars and EU cars are for sale more than the usual 2 days. Hype is almost over and (from what I think) people (in general) are in need of money. Two years ago the average SR5 was sold for at least $2k, nowadays not more than $1k and I see GTS-es for sale around $2k.

banpei

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Skydiver — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:58:10 EST

Obligatory editor-ass-kissing Starion vote.

Skydiver

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

turbo zero — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:14:01 EST

All this talk of Starions has made me wander where Bumbeck has gone to. On topic, Starion please.

turbo zero

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

13thfloorelevator — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:13:05 EST

Starion. The fact that it has a can-a-day eazi-start habit sealed it for me.

13thfloorelevator

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

mr.chöppèrs — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:02:47 EST

re AE86: It sucks when really sweet cars become popular with a lot of fools.

Starion! Officially, the name was a contraction of "Star" and "Orion"...

mr.chöppèrs

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

econobiker — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:02:13 EST

Good (but very spoiled, only child) friend from high school got a brand new Conquest for graduation or a year afterwords. This after driving his dad's used early model 300Z. That Conquest was the biggest POS. He had something about the rear subframe go bad and the car ended up scraping the rear tires going around curves and bottoming out bad. As he was a 20year old yankee hippy-wanna-be in a university in a large city in a southern state, the local dealer claimed the parts would take 6 months from Japan, etc. and warranty work would take 3 months etc. So it turns out that my friends' blue blood parents end up knowing some lady who's husband is somehow pals with Lee Iacocca. They bitch about the car (which they were still paying for) to her and hubby at a cocktail party. Hubby calls Lee the next day. Lee personally calls dealership principle and says service this car even if you have to remove parts from a brand new one for sale on the lot. The dealership calls my friend up and he brings the car in and receives a free loaner to drive for the two days it takes them to fix the car completely free of charge. The way my friend told it he walked in and every person in the dealer ship addressed him as "Mr." Smith and kissed his butt from one side to the other. He got the car back with a full tank of gas, washed and detailed.

He'd later bash the car up bad (only the roof was undented), it would have engine bearing trouble ($2k and then a recall on the bearings 1 month later) and other stuff would go wrong, that his parents eventually got a tax write off by donating the carcass to the local vocational technical school.

econobiker

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

respawn — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:07:14 EST

@banpei: Actually, the current cost is the worst part about the car. I bought mine before the whole Initial D/Dorifto craze made the car wildly popular. I also bought it from some rednecks in small town Louisiana who probably think that anime is what I call my mom's sister. Grand total: $300. Fast forward several years and I didn't have the money to work on the car after Hurricane Katrina killed the starter, so I sold it to a friend of a friend. I cut him an excellent deal and still made a profit. Off a car that was involved in a flood. (And for the record, the car itself wasn't dead, just the starter. If you push started the car, it would still run and drive all day long.)

I would love to have another, but they're just not worth $2K to me.

respawn

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

respawn — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:59:53 EST

This is a tough one. Having previously owned a 1986 AE86, that's where my heart lies. But, I also know just what level of hell is involved in building up one of those... and it's really not that bad. Unless you're on the hunt for junkyard parts cars for interior parts and such, aftermarket mechanicals are plentyful. The only thing that makes this car hellacious is that most people that own them are 16 year old drifter wannabes without the budget to spare for that Quaiffe diff or those Koni shocks. The drivetrain is also very tough and reliable. I overheated the $#!+ out of my 4AGE (I was hoping it would blow so I could justify a rebuild with boost) and the damn thing still didn't die. There are guys actively racing on their original motor with over 200k on the clock.

But this is Project Car Hell we're talking about here. The Starion is more rare and less popular. Plus, it's a Mitsubishi, so it comes complete with their legendary unreliability. ;) Hands down, the Starion for the hellacious win.

(Although I would personally rather have another AE86 to play around with.)

respawn

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

banpei — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:58:42 EST

@MURILEE MARTIN: think you mix up two things here... Ever seen musclecars at LeMans? (those Corvettes don't count: they are race-prepped) And we're talking here about project cars, not race prepped cars.

Besides that: sub-$500? Perhaps you can find a EE80 for that money, but you seriously need a lot more than that for an AE86.

banpei

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

FreeMan — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:02:39 EST

@POLAR: hehe - he's bi-POLAR today! hehe

FreeMan

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

AustinMiniMan — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:14:38 EST

@Dr.Danger: I feel like you should get demoted for knowing that. Or at least have some more pimples put on your face. Sure, I'd do the same thing with damn near anything British, but it is possible to know too much about the AE86.

AustinMiniMan

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

johnnyichiban — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:31:34 EST

Hachi-Roku, please! I need a delivery car for the Tofu Shop.

johnnyichiban

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

ReductiveNut — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:21:36 EST

Dodge Starion all the way!!! And once its done...I mean hoonable, me in the Starion, bro in his AE86 we'll re-do the initial d movie on the way to Estes Park.

ReductiveNut

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Murilee Martin — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:39:09 EST

@banpei: So are you going to find a sub-$500 AE86 and make a 24 Hours of LeMons racer out of it? Come on, you can do it!

Murilee Martin

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Kraln — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:38:53 EST

I just got back in from hooning around in my '85 Celica GT-S. The alternator's dead, so it was pretty much running on battery (until the lights went real dim and then it wasn't running at all well anymore!). Oh, it needs a good squirt of carb cleaner in the intake to get going too.

Bought it for $200. Just rebuilt the engine, so it has about five miles on it. Yeah, you know you love it.

Kraln

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

banpei — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:18:27 EST

Defintely the AE86! :)
As being one of the admins (and owner) of [www.aeu86.org] I can't say otherwise. :P

Did own a 85 SR5 (converted to GTS) up till this summer and I must say that the car is a bit underpowered, but nowadays I see swaps with from the supercharged 4AGZE to F20 (S2000), SR20 (Silvia S15) or even 7MGTE (Celica Supra) which makes the car a compact musclecar!

Love the Starion as well, but the car hasn't got the flair or cult-status that the AE86 has.

banpei

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

jolietjake — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:59:52 EST

The Hachi Roku wins because it has a "Carbon fiber cam gear cover". Perfect place in increase strength and decrease weight.

jolietjake

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

A strolling player — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:38:05 EST

@skylark64: @something_unique_and_descriptive: So glad someone else knows what I was talking about! Or have you seen second stage?

A strolling player

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

something_unique_and_descriptive — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:31:52 EST

AE86, I've watched way too much Initial D and Best Motoring Touge Showdown to vote otherwise.

On its own it may not be very hellish, it's a toyota after all. But there's plenty of engine mod/swap hell potential. You could do the MX-5 piston swap, or maybe the 4A-GE out of an AE111, how about the F20 from an S2000. Or you could source one of the TRD race engines, getting that cleared for the street would be hell. If you wanted to be really weird you drop a 13B from an RX-7 in there, or better yet the 20B tri-rotor from a Cosmo.

something_unique_and_descriptive

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

chase42 — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:29:01 EST

I'd go for the Stallion (oops, I mean Starion. Don't I speaku plopper engrish?). It was, after all, the car that started Mitsubishi's manufacture of clappy turbochargers designed by Gallett.

chase42

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

pitchpitch — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:05:49 EST

The "BOTH" button isn't working.

pitchpitch

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

skylark64 — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:44:25 EST

Starion? Eff the Starion. Takumi (thought his name was Takeshi or something until I looked up just now) and I (and our Tofu-delivery proven driving) will take the AE86 any day. It's for the same reason I would take the Sunoco or Smokey's Camaro over any other. Historical and/or pop culture value goes a long way.

skylark64

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

zack535is — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:08:57 EST

@FLB: Chan didn't drive a Starion in Cannonball Run, it was whatever small Subaru was around back then as I recall. Having said that, Starion, obvs.

zack535is

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Mrb00st — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:54:33 EST

starion is the only choice for non-communists.

Mrb00st

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Novaload — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:52:24 EST

Normally, yes, forget the Toy but this teenage fool has just tinkered it to death. The deal maker for me was the clinical information about various cylinders but ONE TIRE IS FLAT. How lame do you have to be not to take care of that little item? Is this guy such a broke down meth head he can't cover even that?
The Starion guy is nuts, too--why confess you have let the thing sit dead for 2 whole years because you can't figure out anything to do except spray crap into the engine to get it started and then share your idiotic musings with us, o king of rattle paint?
I am NOT that "Starion guy"--you'd think he was selling a dog breed--this car needs someone who'll love and understand it--unlike you, loser!
Wait. They're both drift shits. Crush 'em. The cars too.

Novaload

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Dr.Danger's got the beat — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:36:36 EST

@DiscoQuinn: @vitrium:
Dangit...your right, i had it backwards.

Dr.Danger's got the beat

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

anaxomander — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:19:05 EST

Starion, of course. But my real question, after reading this write-up, is why Murilee would be after F. Scott's drink of choice. Shouldn't she be more interested in the fact that Zelda always drank sidecars?

anaxomander

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Beelzebubba — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:16:57 EST

@akirachan: Exactly.

Beelzebubba

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

GreenVanMan — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:16:18 EST

"IT WILL LOOK REALLY NICE ONCE FINISHED." Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to project car hell.
Time for SUPER INFERNAL POTENTIAL!!

GreenVanMan

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

theholymac — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:52:54 EST

No matter how fucked up the AE86 has become, parts are just too cheap and plentiful. Even considering how much previous owners have fucked it up, go to a junkyard, find a fresh motor, pop it in, and 95% of the hell would be over with right there.

Starion with fuel delivery issues and a questionable motor rebuild? Now THAT'S hell.

theholymac

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

akirachan — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:49:07 EST

This is Hell for project cars, right? then why would you pick something made by Toyota? Starion is hell reincarnate!

akirachan

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

economycar — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:45:32 EST

You can combine the two, it is popular in ny amongst Puerto Rican tuners (and I assume it is popular in PR as well) to put the startion turbo motor into rwd corollas, usually the TE series but the AE as well.

economycar

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

2 GIЯLS 1 POLAЯ — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:43:50 EST

@Charles_Barrett: Yes! Horny is good!

2 GIЯLS 1 POLAЯ

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

russell_s — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:24:43 EST

@russell_s: and absolutely loved eating its own heat shield...

Welcome to Hell...table for two sir, we've been expecting you...

russell_s

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Mad_Science — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:22:53 EST

Stallion for sure.

The combination of 80s semi-computerized Japanese engine management, turbos, fuel delivery issues and CA smog (for me) = hell.

But man, I loves me some angular Japanese styling. I'll park this next to my (mythical) 85 4Runner and my wife's going to wear leg warmers and Chucks everywhere.

Mad_Science

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

russell_s — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:22:35 EST

Starion Is No!

Super Hoon Potential!

Massively Expensive Parts!!!!

my cousin bought one of these slightly used in high school (early 90's)...and that MF'n car needed 1600 brake jobs, pricey tranny work and had all sorts o electric gremlins...and that was 15 yrs ago when they were young....

much like I was *sigh*

russell_s

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

A strolling player — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:20:14 EST

Instinct was for the Starion, but imagine the potential with a RACE BRED 4A-GE!

Paint it white, put tofu delivery decals on the side, install an 11000-rpm tach, and become Akina's next drift king.

A strolling player

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Rust-MyEnemy — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:15:56 EST

@FLB: Possibly if you were to cut off a couple of the turbo blades....

Now, If only Knight Rider would use an '88 Starion...

Rust-MyEnemy

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

hapless — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:12:24 EST

The AE86 runs. Starion it is.

hapless

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

mofoturbo — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:56:20 EST

Go with the Corolla. You become an instant G-d at drifting the second you start it up.

mofoturbo

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

FLB — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:52:49 EST

@Rust-MyEnemy: Can you find me an engine that sounds like the one in Jackie Chan's Starion in the first Cannonball movie?

FLB

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

charles_barrett — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:39:44 EST

@POLAR: But dude, what's hellish about going with what you know... listen to the horny POLAR and go Chryslerbishi.

Since when has horny ever led a man astray...?

charles_barrett

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

ppiddyp — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:37:36 EST

Celica! I have AWESOME memories of riding in the back of one and having my mom spin two or three times on an icy uphill 90 degree right hander. BEAUTIFUL. That did more for my gear headage than countless Mercs, Audis, Volvos, Porsches, VWs, Fiats, Alfas, etc that my dad was always driving around. Spinning out is AWESOME when you're 12.

ppiddyp

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Mike the Dog — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:20:42 EST

Gotta go 'Yoda on this one. It looks like it has been well molested. The Starion I notice has the parking brake on. If it's been like that for two years, it's probably permanently applied at this point...

Mike the Dog

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

2 GIЯLS 1 POLAЯ — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:17:35 EST

I'm so confused... one POLAR says go with what you know, the Toyota...

... but the evil little POLAR with the horns and pointy tail says Chryslerbishi all the way!!

2 GIЯLS 1 POLAЯ

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Maymar — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:13:37 EST

Corolla, because being an enthusiast owning one would be about the same level of hell as owing a Civic, about five years ago. It'll always , been that drift car, the one that'll get noticed by a crowd you don't wanna be noticed by. The Starion, that'll put you through hell and back (maybe two or three times for good measure), but when someone talks to you about it, it'll warm the cockles of your oddball heart and decieve you into thinking it's a good idea.

And, if Top Gear has taught us anything, hell isn't owning a Starion, *Clarkson-esque pause* it's being a blithering idiot.

Maymar

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

amarks — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:49:02 EST

My dad had a Conquest in the early 90s. He got rid of it for a few reasons, though the one I tend to remember had something to do with 'the block cracking down the middle'. Fun times.

amarks

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

theeastbaykid — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:30:10 EST

Even a mint-condition Starion is more hellish than a low-compression Corolla GTS. Ask me how I know. I might break down like T.O.

theeastbaykid

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Rust-MyEnemy — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:29:49 EST

Super Starion man, the period key is here: "."

Oh my oh my.

I have many a time commented how the AE86 is among my faves as a "drivers car". Because it is just that. Nothing more, nothing less, a swift, rwd platform for bare-knuckle driving. No Power this or that, only slightly servo'd brakes and light weight.

But.

I'd pretty much forgotten about the Starion. The Japanese Capri! With the available 2.7 litre I4 (Europe at least) and those '80s shoulder-pad wheelarches, available rear screen slats and the blackest of black paint. OMFG I <3 it.

And I wouldn't even entertain the notion of keeping that engine in it. Oh no, this would be the home for two turbochargers, probably with a 2JZ-GTE Supra engine.

Or if I was feeling really dirty and perverse, maybe a 20B Mazda rotary..... No, that's just sick.

Rust-MyEnemy

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Acd — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:26:31 EST

Starion/Conquest, no matter how you spell it or how you say it the result is the same: nightmare.

Acd

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Brian B — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:25:21 EST

Stallion, er, Starion FTW! (Can there be another choice here?)

Brian B

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

vitrium — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:24:47 EST

@Dr.Danger:
Nah, the tail lights, and whats left of the front bumper indicates an 85 "zenki" model. kouki and zenki coupe tail lights are not interchangeable due to body differences

AE86 wins my vote. Based purely on the fact that theres much more aftermarket support and a bigger cult following. Starions are cool though because its one of the few cars of the 80s with such a honkin' huge front mount intercooler!

vitrium

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

m3_of_doom — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:22:38 EST

"i just cant figure out why it wont get gas to the injection system , pump must be frozen cause it sat for like two years, but when i spray starter fluid into the intake it runs and idles really nice it might have a bad pump and relay or something"

are you serious??

starion for the win

m3_of_doom

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

DiscoQuinn — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:21:21 EST

@Dr.Danger:

That's Zenki, since you can cleary see they removed the ugly stacked grill. I've owned 4 Kouki AE86's. :P

DiscoQuinn

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

wheels OF satan! — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:18:43 EST

uh, have to pass on BOTH and just go watch flashdance ...

thats as close as i want to get to either of these pizza delilvery boy cars...

wheels OF satan!

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Red AuerБЯд╒╒ — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:16:11 EST

Neither... Go with an 84 AE instead

Red AuerБЯд╒╒

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

cyanics — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:15:59 EST

no question.

Super Potential!

Starion. FTW.

/although AR86 = badass. Good PCH options. Hell, do both.

cyanics

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

PeteJayhawk — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:13:32 EST

Only the Starion truly has SUPER POTENTIAL.

PeteJayhawk

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Bentos, Der Frischmacher! — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:12:28 EST

Starion! Just for the rarity of it. and I can rebadge it as a Conquest

Bentos, Der Frischmacher!

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

FLB — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:10:10 EST

Stallion.

FLB

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

workingonyourinvoice — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:09:30 EST

Starion FTW. Saw a beautifully restored one recently on the road. Had big fat tires, perfect blue paint, nice big exhaust. And I'm sure that fuel delivery problem is no big deal.

workingonyourinvoice

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

TexanIdiot25 [Hunting for Lemons] — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:09:09 EST

Well, the AE86 may have a red motor (not this so-called, blue top tomfoolery), but the Starion hasn't ran in 2 years with a mystery fuel problem!

Starion it is!

TexanIdiot25 [Hunting for Lemons]

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

MikeHerbst — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:01:13 EST

I voted AE86, but once I owned it, I would feel obligated to should "Taaakuuuumiiiiiii" at the top of my lungs every time I fired her up. Plus, the stereo would only play Japanese eurobeat.

MikeHerbst

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

skaz — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:55:28 EST

...Starion. Duh.

This is Jalopnik.

skaz

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

petersterncan — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:53:57 EST

For me, it was a toss-up between the two. I like both. Both are cool. Picked the Mitsu because it has a bigger engine and I like the look slightly better.

petersterncan

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

UDMan — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:51:04 EST

Murilee, in my neck of the country I see..... hope you liked it (or at least tolerated it)

and Starion FTW

UDMan

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Froggmann — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:50:08 EST

Starion here, I have only seen two in my lifetime and neither one of them ran. Let's see a car with a strange motor that nobody has parts for? A true one-way ticket to hell.

Froggmann

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

CEman — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:49:29 EST

I voted for the AE86 cuz it sounds all f*&ed up.

I have a soft spot for the Starion/Conquest. I owned one and drove several others. Mod the waste gate and the things was CRAZY!! Who needed a chip? And, the damned engine's were almost bullet proof.

I remember test driving one at a local Dodge dealer. I hit 95 on a local bypass and the salesman ran to the bathroom when we got back to the dealership. What fun...

CEman

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

badco/LoJ — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:48:00 EST

Starion, but it's overpriced by about $1150.

badco/LoJ

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

TexansAreHot — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:47:09 EST

I mean, come on, it's a Starion. Starion for me, please.

TexansAreHot

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

WarShrike — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:42:07 EST

Starion here.

If it fails, I could always find some way to strip the suspension and everything else, and put it in my back bedroom, put it on hydraulic lifts and tap it in somehow for my racing games...

WarShrike

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

Dr.Danger's got the beat — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:41:40 EST

AE86, duuuuuh.

The hood is already black, what else do you need.

Funny, the ad says 1985, but this is clearly the '86 Kouki model.

Dr.Danger's got the beat

PCH, 80s Japanese Muscle Edition: AE86 or Starion?

yellofury * * * * * — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:36:26 EST

I was going to go with my perennial favorite the Starion but something about the Ae86 engine and those cams make me feel all giddy inside
theres some Popsicles down in the cellar mmmmmmmmm

yellofury * * * * *