<![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek - Jalopnik Comments]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek - Jalopnik Comments]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Wow! an exotic car from Nissan? The word exotic doesn't seem to apply to the previous tradition and rich heritage of the GTR's for some reason and Kudos to Nissan for retaining those identity. Personally, the previous GTR had a huge impact on the tuner market and this car hopefully will maintain those tradition despite of changes in automotive technology. I believed this car has it's own personality and should be driven or own by someone that can appreciate what it is. This car is not a poser to be admire for it's look, however I find very little fault in those criteria, it's numbers is to be respected and you when you are looking at the tailight in the track or in the street then you will know it's a GTR. So as someone said earlier, if you don't like it don't buy it and stop complaining about something you don't understand or how you would like Nissan to build an exotic car for you. Phew!

syque

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @jakay11: I'm aware of Porsche's aversion to hopping up the Cayman. I wasn't talking about that. I was pointing out that any future Porsche supercar that slots above the 911, say where the old Carrera GT used to be, will more than likely be based on the Cayman platform, because of the superior weight distribution and handling characteristics.

brandonvalentine

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> If this car drives as well as it looks on paper, then I guess the lack of a manual can be overlooked. But I've driven a handful of cars with F1-style gearboxes, including an F355. So they might be able to shift faster than the best drivers and do a better job of rev-matching on a downshift ... but it's just not the same (plus, heel-and-toe shifting is fun!). Maybe I'm being nostalgic here, but I'm against most stuff that puts an electronic layer between the driver and the road.

And if Nissan's flappy-paddle box (is this their first in a road car?) is anything like BMW's SMG garbage, then that would be a huge deal breaker.

Eric Lai

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> It does not look like the concept and that's a bad thing.

TampaRon

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @brandonvalentine:

actually, Porsche will not put a turbo on the Cayman, or prep a factory race-car. Their 911 is for that... they tried that route with the 928.

As for stick vs. manual, well 911 Turbo is faster with the autobox, BUT YOU CANNOT COMPLETELY CONTROL IT!

As for this thing, well, it seems that the nose is a the cross-breeding experiment gone all wrong with an Evo and a 350Z.

jakay11

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @milo_carrera: My argument for manual transmissions is much simpler: serviceability. Automatics, manumatics, and their ilk are all more costly and more difficult to rebuild than a simple manual gearbox. With the exception of certain Ford and GM automatic gearboxes the parts availability and complexity of repairs places repair beyond the means of the average wrench, and certainly makes maintaining a classic automobile a much dicier proposition. So many classic automobiles are still on the road today because even if parts were no longer available to repair their manual gearbox, the mechanisms are so simple that any competent machinist can craft a replacement. The death of the manual gearbox, especially among high-end sports cars, makes me sad for the prospect that far fewer of them will remain on the road in 20 or 50 years time. If your future classic uses the transmission of the moment, and that transmission style is only manufactured for several years, it seems very unlikely that the mechanic or restorationist of the distant future will have an easy time keeping the unit in service and that added expense will mean fewer classics on the road and certainly fewer of them owned by amateurs and lower income enthusiasts.

brandonvalentine

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Re slushboxes, tiptronics, DSG's, SMG's et al: I don't prefer a manual on the track because of shifting speed, but rather for the ability to control how smoothly or how roughly the shift occurs. When you hear people say the shifting with one of the above is perfect everytime, that won't work for me. There are plenty of times that a shift needs to be smooth enterin (or exiting) a turn. But there are also those times that you want to steer the car with the shift, a lot, a little, or somewhere in between. Until the DSG can read my mind, it ain't happenin'.

Also--Hey AutoWeak! Suck my M-barg-O!

milo_carrera--now with Corrected Politicality

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @Hyman Decent: Yeah I've gotten bills from that crap before. It's all lies. I called up Autoweek and they said just throw out the bills. How nice.

I've read Dutch's damn columns, I always do. The fact of the matter is that I now have to put up with these jerks bothering me all the time. That's just a hell of an excuse to allow Dutch to skirt the issue like that.

They're using Autoweek's name and Autoweek allows them to do it.

Autoweek is owned by Crain Publishing so it's not like they don't have the legal money to do what needs to be done in interest of the readers.

Instead, thanks to Autoweek, I get calls every weekend at all hours of the day asking me to renew my subscription.

So thank you AutoWEAK, for not protecting your own readers' rights.

Evander

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @Evander: Don't you read Dutch Mandel's columns? He's written at least twice that third-party magazine subscription sellers are the ones calling AutoWeek subscribers.

Hyman Decent

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @Evander: They haven't really been the same since they lost Satch Carlson. That damned indescretion of his cold-cocked me in a way that hadn't been revisited until that dark day I learned Murilee was a man.

beercheck

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @ClutchPlease: The DSG has no torque converter. When moltenik said:

"Due to technological advances however the modern auto-manuals can be superior to a traditional clutch and stick arraignment. (Although we don't know about this car yet.)

Note the "can be superior". What I assume he meant was that we don't know if the GT-R will have an "Autostick/Tiptronic" style slushbox, a slick but ridiculously complex SMG, or a slick and simple (and fabulous) DSG.

MountainDrew

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> To Autoweek:

Stop calling me.

I already own a subscription.

You've interrupted my eating enough thank you.

P.S.

Fire those new writers you hired. They're atrocious.
If I wanted to hear about PlayStation I'd talk to my little cousin.

Evander

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @slostudent: That would get my 1st ever COTD nomination. Well said.

beercheck

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> I don't know what y'all are complaining about. I think that's perfectly attractive for a modern car. If you hadn't noticed, modern cars pretty much suck. We knew it wasn't gonna look as good as the R8, but it's certainly better looking than most of the competition. I do think Nissan did better with this one than they did with the 350Z, which is a total butterface.

I think the performance numbers on this are scaring the lederhosen off of the Germans right now. This thing demolishes the R8, Gallardo and base Murcielago in performance and it's competitive with the LP640. It's also a helluva lot cheaper. It will trounce them all in sales. Plus you can afford to drive it every day.

The only supercar maker not shaking in their boots right now is probably Porsche, who knows that people who want a 911 are always going to want one, and that at will they can crank up the boost and displacement on their flat six and best any of these numbers, particularly if they base a future supercar on the Cayman platform.

I can't wait to see someone enter these in ALMS and watch them keep up with the Corvettes and Astons.

brandonvalentine

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> That's horrific! Why build up all that suspense for this? Even the interior looks awful. Given the choice, I'd rather have a fifth-hand road warrior R32.

Seriously, while the styling of the new STI may be questionable, it looks positively stunning next to this thing.

Euromobile

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @moltenik: The problem is most of the auto sticks out there are a 'poser' option at the moment. As hardcore manual as I am, I could probably live with a well executed SMG or equivalent. But the second a torque converter gets anywhere near your car its no replacement a all.

ClutchPlease

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @moltenik: Heretic!

RoninianHoon

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @moltenik: Agreed. I was a hard headed supporter of the stick, until the day I test drove a VW DSG. That thing is friggin' sweet. I have probably matched it in shift speed OR smoothness once or twice (out of how many thousands of shifts in my lifetime?), but certainly never both at the same time.

The DSG does it perfectly EVERY SINGLE TIME.

MountainDrew

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> I can't wait for the day when I can watch Clarkson floggig this car around the track, while complaining that the center stack looks like it came out of a Ford cargo van...

danhar2

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> moltenik:You have some valid points, but where is the same connection you achieve when you become part of the process. Depressing the clutch pedal and snicking the shifter into the next gate with the utmost precision, pushing yourself to work the process better and faster, wringing out every ounce of power you can... instead of just flicking a paddle.

POLAЯMISSESEVEЯYBODY

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> you can use E to the munds embargo broken images instead now. AW gets 2 hours of increased traffic for 100s of hours of PR headaches!

Rabbi Dave

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Autoweek should grow up and let the blogosphere do its thing.

As far as the car, is it 1984? I would swear that interior was in my Nissan SportTruck. Except I had nice brushed stainless trim and a real gearshift lever.

cgarison

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Don't dismiss the lack of a clutch in this car out of habit or a yearning for the good ol' days. I too used to be on the manual transmission bandwagon, for the simple reason that for most driving enthusiasts it was the better choice; better performance, better gas mileage, better control, more fun.

Due to technological advances however the modern auto-manuals can be superior to a traditional clutch and stick arraignment. (Although we don't know about this car yet.) As long as I get to control when the gear change happens, I don't care if it's done with a pedal or with paddles; I'll take the consistently fastest option.

The time is coming when a manual stick transmission will be a 'poser' option, and the real enthusiasts will always opt for the more modern variants.

moltenik

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @TomAnderson: I would make sweet sweet love to each and every one of those intake runners. That is a nasty-stinkin'-sexy engine bay.

Garebear

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Is that the interior from a '93 Nissan Hardbody pickup?

This thing better move like a hobo after a ham sandwich to make up for it.

burglar

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @slostudent: Yep, definite paper bag job

Rust-MyEnemy is stll out there!

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> As with very few previous companions I may request she keep the bra on...

slostudent

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @TomAnderson: THAT would have been totally über-meta. Alas, it was merely Wes Raynal asking us to take them down.

Ray Wert

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Ummm...I'm no Skyline fanboy, but I like the styling.

Maybe it's an age thing. I'm 25.

RE: interior. Yeah...it looks a little dated. I'll take a dated interior in a performance car any day. It's clearly missing a pedal, but aside from that it's nice to know all of your purchase dollars are going towards performance and not heated leather butt-massagers.

Mad_Science

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Was it Nissan who requested AutoWeek to request you take 'em down? Because that would be über-meta.

Tomsk the red-nosed reindeer

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @POLAR: Yeah! Sucking seats!

SeanKHotay

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Boo! Hiss to AutoWeek.

It'll be interesting to see the response to this by all the Skyline idolizing fan boys. Will it fail in their eyes or live up to the myth?

Anyone here a Skyline fan boy that wants to chip in?

FЯeeMan is slowly cЯawling out of the new commenting system

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> That's actually offensively ugly. Maybe it's better in person. And in all black.

beercheck

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @mwood10: Two's company, three's a party, Whoohoo!

@SeanKHotay: Push button seat cleaner!

@reefer: Big enough pipes for dragons even!

Yes, motor bits sure are purdy, but eyes still ooze puss and blood ...

POLAЯMISSESEVEЯYBODY

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @my favorite car is a motorcycle: I assume you are kidding. The car looks like a rolling sex-sicle double dipped in fornication, with a little bit of evil sprinkled on top.

Andrewpetty

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @cyanics: A turbocharged road motor revving to 10K? Don't think so.

brandegee

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Interior styling is so disjointed it may as well be a Bristol. As for the exterior, thank god there are a lot of Japanese tuning firms because some needs to figure out how to replace that front end. Nissan has had a ton of great designs in the last few years, but something got lost in the translation from concept to production here.

Chris Rowe

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> I believed for several years that BMW's were becoming the ugliest vehicles on the planet, but apparently Nissan is racing to the bottom.

Other than the sumptuous-looking rear seats for rapidly carting children to school in comfort, there's nothing appealing about the styling of this 2+2 GT.

fugly!

my favorite car is a motorcycle

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @IamZardoz: You're a heretic and I hate you. Pych! I totally agree with you. Just kidding. I hate you.

Andrewpetty

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> I'm completely down with a dual-clutch, but if this thing has a torque converter as video at the 'Ring and these photo suggest... It's gone from valiant effort to laughingstock.

badco/LoJ

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> I'm so sorry that this car doesn't come with manual transmission. But it is still a milestone considering it will be offered here in the states. If you don't like it just don't buy it. That's it. Quit whining.

akirachan

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> That interior looks like junk. I know Nissan can do better than that. Looks like it was designed in 1992. The outside isn't much better, especially that front end. This could've been sooo much better.

MrSpyder

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Oh, you buff books! /'50s TV dad voice

Though the apparently flappy-paddle-only tranny selection is disappointing, it's good news for those of us who have to deal with SoCal traffic. And dig that engine pr0n!

Tomsk the red-nosed reindeer

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> LOL.. no clutch pedal? no thanks..

Pontiac

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Hm, those are big exhaust tips. That is a sexy engine bay though.

reefer

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @POLAR:

Is that an Easy button behind it?

I've done run out out of toilet paper...

SeanKHotay

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @POLAR: I'm assuming this is a dual-clutch, flappy-paddle thing. If there's one car that should be using the latest technology, it's this one. Although I would prefer a third pedal.

@teargas: At least this one will probably be fun to drive. Like the WRX, I'm willing to put up with ugly if it shows me a good time (maybe that should be Cadillac's tag line).

mwood10

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> The old Skyline looked as it did because it was derived from a range of 4-door sedans.

This not being a limitation or the new GT-R, why in the name of hell does it have to look like this? Or- is there a 4-door version on the way?

Or a Nissan Stagea wagon? Oooh, i came over all funny as I wrote that

Rust-MyEnemy is stll out there!

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Might be fast but it is quite an ugly car.

IamZardoz

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> thats a beautiful thing.

whats the tach go up to? I see 6K RPM and enough room to reach 10K.....

cyanics

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> Holy crapweasel! What's that thing in the center console where the stick-shift is supposed to go? Oh my eyes...

bleeding...
sombbbody hleppppppppp

POLAЯMISSESEVEЯYBODY

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> @Mad_Science: Yup. Might as well be the new Focus.

Comrade Teargaskov

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> this is an EPIC DAY

mcheddadi

]]> <![CDATA[2009 Nissan GT-R Sees Embargo Skirt Lifted Higher By AutoWeek]]> FAIL:
[jalopnik.com]

Mad_Science

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