<![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross - Jalopnik Comments]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross - Jalopnik Comments]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> @nweaver: for everyone except the Celica. They left their numbers on. Why would you have numbers if you weren't racing?

anthonyralston

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Enyce: Thats why they have photos. For all but the GT owner, the photos are gold for dealing with insurance.

nweaver

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> And how in the hell do you hit the clutch instead of the brake? I know the pedals on a 911 are close together, but was this idiot driving with two feet or were his shoes bigger than Shaq's?

Enyce

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> I feel bad for the owners of those three spectator rides. There's no way the insurance companies are gonna believe they weren't racing.

Enyce

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Poor WRX……….Don't care about the Golf GTI ,Jetta in a dress and the very chickish Celica

Das_Anthony

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> The insurance that the SCCA offers is primarilyu medical and liability insurance for the participants and organizers. It is not collision or comprehensive coverage for the participant's vehicle.

http://www.scca.com/Inside/Index.asp?IdS=18D9BB-C95A3C0&x=...

Most car insurance companies will not cover damage sustained during a timed or competitive event.

I hope the driver of the GT3 (and possibly the owner) will pay to make everything right on the cars he hit, since this is looking much more like gross driver error and not a course design issue.

MattP

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Brain-fade strikes again.

Grib

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Yeah, we had a Lotus Elan incident at an auto-x a few years back. Everything was locked down, threads were made private during the insurance investigation and we were asked not to discuss the incident.

Remember, the SCCA offers insurance for events; but I have no experience how that works.

Dr. Spaceman, Esq.

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> ecniv, Eddie Griffin can only drive paddle-shift.

maxwaver

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Here's an idea: Next time, try hitting the OTHER pedal that's to the left of the gas if the first one you try doesn't stop the car.
Jee-zus.

Tomsk 1.1

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Thanks for the details Sidzilla.

So the course was setup on the far West end of the parking area, near the entrance road? And the coasted all the way to the bleachers?

Yikes.

Also, did he hit his own car (the Corvette?)

Seth L

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Was Eddie Griffin driving the GT3?

ecniv

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I am actually surprised that this is getting so much exposure.

I recall the "lotus vs. Tree" incident and how The auto club went into IMMEDIATE INFORMATION LOCKDOWN.

everybody was told not to talk about it.

being the subversive that i am , i slipped the two ( well composed, i might add) photos i snapped of the carnage into the event photo folder on a public autox website.

the poor bastid who started the folder immedialtely was lambasted on teh forums. I eventually quietly removed them.

The contrast of that incident and THIS current crash is interesting.

Drive-thru

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> @ rennsport964: The GT3 hit the other cars. The person driving was originally in a corvette and took his friend's GT3 out for the last run of the day... and drove it into the other 3 cars.

fussball

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Auto-x can be dangerous. I was working the finish last season and a kid in a WRX came in too hot and out of controll. Seeming to have forgotton where his breaks where located he slid through the finish sideways, took out the stop box and proceeded to hit a curb fully sideways and then a landscaping tree that was the only thing that kept him from rolling his car. I had to sprint out of the way to keep from getting mowed down. Good thing I was paying attention.

Picarso

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> No video?

thunder; now eta-powered

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I am honestly sickened.
Mr. Wrong foot needs to thank his God that he didnt kill/injure somebody.

The "little red lotus kills a mall parking lot landscaping tree" episode I winessed at an event pales.

Drive-thru

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Here is a little more light on the event taken from a few emails I have been exchanging with my local auto-x crew.....

Here's Kevin Deitz's (NWR, multiple national champ, Evo instructor, beyond doubt one of the most gifted drivers in the sport, lots of experience with Porsches and Vettes) account from SCCA Forums:


"FYI the Guy who "Borrowed" the car has been driving an automatic AS corvette convertable for years. He spun his corvette on his 3rd run in the same spot (the only guy I saw do this). His automatic corvette has two pedals, the brake pedal is 5 inches across, the gas pedal is three inches wide. That's a Big difference from the Porsche GT3's three narrow pedals placed closely together in true race car fashion. I'd say not looking (ahead) past the finish lights, driving a supercar and trying to set the fastest time of the group are too blame for this incident. An over agressive finish and a panic stab at the clutch pedal is always gona be a bad scene. The car owner has got to take a little blame for allowing someone else to run the car with the mindset of setting fastest time."


Here's Ryan Otis' (PDX, black STU STi, very good driver, you may have met at OSI last year) account from SCCA Forums:

"In an effort to reduce the amount of speculation, I'll provide my opinion on the incident as I was there, but I am not one of the organizers so I can't say anything official. This is purely my opinion based on my observations and may differ from someone else's who was also there. The distances are very rough approximations, I didn't take any measurements, although someone else might have.

The short version of the story is that an individual hopped in an unfamiliar (borrowed) car for a run, upon finishing the course he did not depress the brake pedal and evidently hit the clutch instead (there were no brake lights at all) -- he literally coasted the next ~100+ft through the finish chute, straight out the end, another ~40ft through the banner lines and into the parking area. I don't think you can design any possible layout where if you were to take a car to the middle of 2nd gear, depress the clutch and coast, that you wouldn't eventually hit something. I did not witness any loss of control (aside from the lack of brake application), no sliding, no skidmarks, etc. It was just straight out the end, no brakes at all. It was purely driver error.

I personally had no issue with the design of the course or finish area. Even after the incident I was looking at it thinking "god, how could he cover *that* much ground?". I've driven on a LOT of autocross courses (usually with small, local clubs) where certain elements of the course make me nervous. Some will have high-speed offsets without much of a setback from an obstacle, or some other element without adequate setback where I don't feel comfortable pushing 10/10. This was NOT one of those times. Some of the pictures online do not have very good depth of field and are not representative of the distances involved."

That is a bad way to start the season. At least no peeps were hurt.

Picarso

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> What gets me is the decals on the GT3. Not awesome funny when the damage is real.

Seth L

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Wow. It's so awful to look at. So much carnage. So many people left holding the bag over a small mistake.

br549

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Oh, damn!! Oh, damn!!!!

Remind me never to let a friend test the limits of my $130k Porsche. Oh wait.

dculberson

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Yikes. Pretty sure insurance won't cover a dime. I remember asking my Farmers agent before my first AutoX event and she laughed. Does this qualify for the Hoonadmy Awards?

Mr4Runner

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Looks like they had set up the AutoX course in the parking lot. I haven't been to an AutoX at PIR in a number of years, but they used to do it in the infield, just behind the pit wall.

Jon

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> That's more carnage than I've seen in 4 years of Vintage racing. Did this dickwad do it in the paddock???

Vintage Racer - back on the track...

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> @rennsport964: Retracted. The blog entry is *very* confusing to read.

rennsport964

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> I think you guys need to read the comments in the blog more closely. The GT3 was on the *receiving* end by an errant Corvette driver who missed the brake and hit the clutch instead -- and plowed into the grid area.

rennsport964

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> @MagnificentBastard:
Remove the stickers and tell them the truth -- that you were parked at the raceway (in the parking lot, no less -- the track is on the other side of the grandstands) watching an event. Just leave out the bit where you were competing.

The one who will have a hard time is the guy in the Porsche, but if he can afford a nice GT3, he's probably not too worried about it.

Jon

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> That's definitely PIR. Last Friday night the opening stages of the Oregon Trail Rally were held there. Wonder if any of my AutoX/race friends have any more details...

Jon

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> So how do you explain this to your insurance claims department?

MagnificentBastard

]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> Rich guys' friends are truly the bane of thee autocrossist.

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]]> <![CDATA[Porsche 911 GT3 Makes A Mess At Oregon Autocross]]> I cry for thee, beautiful blue WRX wagon...

Jonny Lieberman

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