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But they are both big bumpered, emissions strangled Italian iron and aluminum, so everyone's a winner here. #beta
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Also, I know nothing about Italian cars, except that they are pretty and diabolically unreliable, and hence expensive. I'll go with the Alfa, though, because it looks more like its heritage and less, as with the Lancia, like an old Sentra or Stanza. Or Cressida. You know what I mean.
Because PCH is all about the suffering, and why suffer for what looks like an econobox?
11/15/09
This is the same logic that drives those in the know to tell the world how bad these affordable Italians are - so that they will remain affordable. The truth is, they are remarkably easy to wrench on (by modern standards) and incredibly rewarding to drive. #beta
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I know enough people to help me with the Alfa ... gotta go there... #beta
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The Alfa looks to be a private import. I don't think that Alfa was still selling the GTV in the US in 1974 (I couold be wrong, though). The front bumper looks like a Euro model. At any rate, it has the classic Giugiaro styling and these coupes have become genuinely collectible. Which makes it the bigger tease. You'll be forever chasing the ephemeral dream of creating a desirable driver that will be worth some coin. That makes it more hellish.
Glad to see PCH is back - I hope it becomes a regular feature again. #beta
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I picked the Lancia. You know why? Because everyone else has a goddamn Alfa. Where I live, you can't shout "Spica injection is unreliable and produces less power than properly set-up Weber sidedrafts" without a crowd of Alfa fanatics coming out of the woodwork to explain how wonderful and easy-to-tune Spica systems are, and how it was only restrictive emissions requirements that made later Spica-equipped cars difficult to deal with. Likewise, you can't say the phrase "crappy high-carbon Soviet steel" without them explaining that Italian cars really don't rust that badly, as long as you don't get them wet.
I'm not a big fan of the Lancia. It's got a nice, snorty twin-cam motor, but you can get the same motor in a Fiat 124 Spider, and it will be placed in a better-looking body and driving the proper wheels. If you get the Alfa, you'll have the support of a group of friendly, knowledgeable, supportive Alfa enthusiasts, and when you're done with your project you'll get to drive around in an absolutely fantastic little car.
Where's the hell in that? #beta
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and this guy: [jalopnik.com] #beta
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@snapoversteer 'bout to get told: You must be joking... #550gtz
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@snapoversteer 'bout to get told: i think it looks like... #550gtz
10/28/09
I actually prefer the 599, even though I don't love its front end, either. The 612 hurts my eyes.
This Zagato design seems to me to make a much more coherent statement. #550gtz
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This is better looking than all of the current Ferraris. (bar the Italia)
Zagato are the masters of body sculpting. Just look at the rear haunches! So defined, so curvy, so prominent. No other design house in the 21st Century has guts to do that. That swoopy front is obviously mimicking the F1 cars of old. And the focal point at the brake ducts add tension as if it's lunging towards at you.
I don't understand how people find this ugly. It's quite beautiful in my eyes. The body work is extraordinary, just as it was with the DBAR1. It's got the classic proportions. And fantastic curves. It's both instantly recognizable as a Ferrari and a Zagato. What more can you want?
It's a fine tribute to Ferraris of the past while passing the torch onto the Italia. Well done, Zagato! Well done! #550gtz
10/28/09
The DBAR1 was the best thing that Zagato has put out in a long, long time. This thing, on the other hand... #550gtz
10/28/09
I'd like to think of it as more of Botticelli than just plain obese.
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The 550Z could be beautiful with some artful re-sculpturing, particularly in the front. As it is, the car ends up looking awkward and very un-Ferrari. Typical Zagato, however. #550gtz
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