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    125 MPG Diesel-Electric Three-Wheeled Car Headed For Production

    Like the XR-3 Hybrid? How About a Suburba 3-wheel-amino
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    06/15/09

    In reply to 125 MPG Diesel-Electric Three-Wheeled Car Headed For Production
    Still a better choice:


    [www.vwvortex.com]


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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    06/15/09

    In reply to 125 MPG Diesel-Electric Three-Wheeled Car Headed For Production
    An interesting evolution of the Tri-Magnum design that I've always liked (I'm a sucker for reverse-trikes). I think the power train is the most interesting part - if I'm reading it right, the diesel engine powers the rear wheel and electric motors power the front, but the two are not connected. To charge the battery, you just push the front wheels. Not as efficient, probably, as direct charging but probably a lot cheaper.


    I'd be a little concerned about the power, with only 23hp in the diesel motor, you'd better hope you've got a full charge going up a hill. But other than that (well that and the questionable design choices like the nose, wheels and air scoops) I like it. Let's hope I can get it complete for $15k.

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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    06/15/09

    @weatherman: You're mostly right, but you have the powered wheels reversed. The diesel powers the front wheels and the electric powers the rear. You can select electric-only power for up to 40 miles, diesel only power, or a combo of the two.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    06/15/09

    In reply to 125 MPG Diesel-Electric Three-Wheeled Car Headed For Production
    So close, but so far.


    Normally I complain about vehicles like this looking like total dorkmobiles.


    The pseudo-body kit on the side and the 3-spoke chrome wheels are more like when the really dorky kid decided he was going to try and be cool.

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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    06/15/09

    In reply to 125 MPG Diesel-Electric Three-Wheeled Car Headed For Production
    You know with three wheels this thing is defined as a motorcycle, so that means in most states a helmet will be required for the driver and passenger (some states, just the passenger). Wonder how that's going to help sells?
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    06/15/09

    @Flathead Smith: LAws vary state-to-state, the Can-Am Spyder is registered as a car or a motorcycle depending on the state in question. So you have to wear a helmet in motorcycle states and nothing in car states, how bizarre is that?
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    06/15/09

    In reply to 125 MPG Diesel-Electric Three-Wheeled Car Headed For Production
    Is this one of those "If you have to ask how much you can't afford it" type of purchases?
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/15/09

    @lilwillie heart clicks GM: It would be extremely expensive in terms of the strain you be put under by the massive amount of cognitive dissonance you would experience as the owner of such a vehicle.
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    Image of .357 .357
    06/15/09

    In reply to 125 MPG Diesel-Electric Three-Wheeled Car Headed For Production
    So, it's a silver guinea pig riding on Sunfire wheels.
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    Image of Quattro-luvr Quattro-luvr
    06/15/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: They got a killer deal on all the Sunfire's now surplus inverntoy of wheels.
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    Image of .357 .357
    06/15/09

    @Quattro-luvr with Peugeot humility: Don't buy one. My 97 GT tells you no!
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    Image of Quattro-luvr Quattro-luvr
    06/15/09

    In reply to 125 MPG Diesel-Electric Three-Wheeled Car Headed For Production
    Why couldn't VW justify their diesel/electirc hybrid again? Guess it was that costly certification.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    06/15/09

    @Quattro-luvr with Peugeot humility: Yeah, I instantly thought of the GR3, too. Too expensive to certify as a small volume showroom trinket. And VW's not in the kit car biz...too bad they didn't license the design to someone willing to take the risk.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/15/09

    In reply to 125 MPG Diesel-Electric Three-Wheeled Car Headed For Production
    I thought three wheelers such as this were inherently unstable?
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    Image of s0crates82 s0crates82
    06/15/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: They're far more stable if the front has two wheels with a single rear drive wheel. See: T-Rex [www.campagnamotors.com]
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    06/15/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Like they said, a reverse trike is incredibly stable; probably more so than 4 wheels with the right suspension.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/15/09

    @s0crates82: I've seen the T-Rex, and the other bike, whose name I don't care to look up. True, they both handle well.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    06/15/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: The problem is in the three wheelers where the single is out front. Trikes with two front and one rear only have issues with failure to hold line in turns. They tend to spin out and oversteer. This can actually be addressed fairly easily in design. I'd be more concerned about the lack of rear visibility myself.
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    Image of .357 .357
    06/15/09

    In reply to 125 MPG Diesel-Electric Three-Wheeled Car Headed For Production


    vs.
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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    06/15/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Now that's logic that can't be beat!
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    Image of Bertone77 Bertone77
    06/15/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: I'll Take Option A, because she probably won't give you herpes.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/15/09

    @Bertone-77: No, but the car might have the same effect on your sex life.
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    Image of Dhillaz 2.0 Dhillaz 2.0
    06/15/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: For God's sake GM: this is exactly why you're going under.


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    Image of .357 .357
    06/15/09

    @Dhillaz hammers stakes through heart-clicks: Her name is Big Mac.
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    06/15/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Now, that's logic.


    This is too.




    The point is, Meghan Fox is pro-global warming, and we should be too.

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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    06/15/09

    @Schm wishes he could bring back the funny. .: Megan, not Meghan. My bad. And another, for kicks.


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    Image of .357 .357
    06/15/09

    @Schm wishes he could bring back the funny. .: I love G-Wagens and Megan Fox. It's a perfect combo.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/15/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Wow, what a great way to change the day. Thanks. And I'll take both.
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    Image of .357 .357
    06/15/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: You mean Porsche girl and Megan Fox, right? Right?
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    Image of Dhillaz 2.0 Dhillaz 2.0
    06/15/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: To all you Acura fans out there...I have some bad news...


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    Image of .357 .357
    06/15/09

    @Dhillaz hammers stakes through heart-clicks: Dhillaz, please, for the love of god, stop.
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    .357 was starred .357 was unstarred
    Image of Dhillaz 2.0 Dhillaz 2.0
    06/15/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Compensation for all:



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    Image of .357 .357
    06/15/09

    @Dhillaz hammers stakes through heart-clicks: Forgiven.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/15/09

    @Dhillaz hammers stakes through heart-clicks: Oh my God. That is just wrong.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/15/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Umm, yeah.
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