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LTDScott
11/23/09

In reply to V8olvo Gets Upside-Down, Roof Barely Dented: Volvo Bricks As Sturdy As Advertised!
Good thing this is the last race of the season, because now this car is banninated for the year!
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Novaload
11/23/09

In reply to V8olvo Gets Upside-Down, Roof Barely Dented: Volvo Bricks As Sturdy As Advertised!
So the Faster Farms Fury claims another score--they should paint these on (what's left of) a fender.
Again, surprising lack of profanity. I admire such Stoicism.
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LTDScott
11/23/09

@Novaload: Looks like the "Size Matters" Fury to me.
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Novaload
11/23/09

@LTDScott: Even better! That's one of my personal faves, having had a 66 Fury of my own to love. But, alas, I know they don't have enough flat metal left to write on!
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Mad_Science
11/23/09

In reply to Killer Bee MGB Wipes Out, Gets Rolled Into Ball Of British Leyland Scrap
The amount of analysis regarding the 16 seconds of video is hilarious.

Remember: it's LeMons. There are no rules on the track, aside from knowing that if you make contact, you'll penalized. No one has the right of way, no one "has the line".

No one should've done anything, as no one can count on other drivers seeing you or knowing what to do if they do.
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Novaload
11/22/09

In reply to Killer Bee MGB Wipes Out, Gets Rolled Into Ball Of British Leyland Scrap
That picture is hilarious. The Bee looks like a cartoon car, grinning at us in spite of his smooshed up face.
And is that Ian Anderson in the red shoes? Shouldn't he be back in Scotland with his salmon farm and his Tull royalties?
Whoever he is, he's not too old to rock--and roll.
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KillerBRacer
11/23/09

@Novaload: That's me. Bad hair day, red driving shoes came as a set with red gloves. Easier to see who is behind the wheel in video & photos.
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Novaload
11/23/09

Hey, no apologies needed. Ian totally rocks.
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KillerBRacer
11/23/09

@Novaload: Nay nay, it was funny and cool! I'm enjoying a beatnik phase as I grow out my hair (for cancer kids) and I'm thick as a brick! Note I'm not smiling in the photo as I bite my tongue and "sit" on my hands. I was mere seconds away from verbally abusing an idiot...
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MushyHeirloom
11/22/09

In reply to Killer Bee MGB Wipes Out, Gets Rolled Into Ball Of British Leyland Scrap
If there was someone behind the Honda guys, there wasn't much else they could have done - four wheels off, a bumper through their trunklid, or PITting the at-fault driver... well, I don't blame him.

(If there wasn't anyone on his arse, he should've let off, of course, but it's likely that he couldn't and was hoping the 'B pilot woke up.)
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Uncle Bo
11/22/09

In reply to Killer Bee MGB Wipes Out, Gets Rolled Into Ball Of British Leyland Scrap
I think its one of those things where the Honda driver never thought the B driver would come over that far and make contact. Yeah, I guess the Honda driver could have slammed on the brakes but the B driver has a responsibility to the other cars around him.

Since there was no one under the B, there was no reason to swing way out to make the left hander. The Honda driver has as much right to the track and a racing line as anyone else.

Rule #1 in racing - Hold Your Line.

Well, if it's not #1, it should be up there.
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HoonThatFerrari
11/22/09

@Uncle Bo: He absolutely thought the guy was coming over that far... look at 0:05 through 0:11 & you'll see how the Honda's line changes from having plenty of track off to the right, to nearly having one set of wheels in the dirt. THEN, that's when he comes back to the left.... back, and to the left... back, and to the left.

Not saying that he knew he was going to take out the Bee, but why - at that particular point - would one make the decision to swerve left without backing off the throttle a hair, when it's really, really obvious that contact would be made?

But then again, there's a lot of factors & disctractions involved that we can't see or experience through the eyes of the camera, so it's likely this is just one of those unfortunate incidents than can occur in any race.

Glad the guy in the Bee is OK.
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Uncle Bo
11/22/09

@HoonThatFerrari:

The Honda went as far right as he could, until his right tires were in the dirt. That is what caused the left-right movement.

We have the luxury of watching the video over and over, analyzing every second, and criticizing the actions of both drivers..... drivers who did not have the same luxuries as we do. That's why race drivers need to follow certain rules of decorum; they do not have the time to endlessly analyze every moment of competition.

Yes, there are many factors and distractions present, but it was one major mistake that caused this incident. Fortunately, no one paid a big price for that mistake. Hopefully it was "lesson learned" for all involved.
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skitter
11/22/09

In reply to Killer Bee MGB Wipes Out, Gets Rolled Into Ball Of British Leyland Scrap
As usual, an MG fails to live up to expectations.

And where did our intrepid cameraman learn to drive? NASCAR?
I'll acknowledge shared fault, but he should have backed down.
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something_unique_and_descriptive
11/22/09

@skitter: I'm guessing there was somebody behind the Honda.
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KillerBRacer
11/23/09

@skitter: After our loose cannon wadded the Bee up into a ball, I was invited to ride a stint with Free Range Racing the next day (Cool guys). A driver wearing the same color suit in the same car (just observations) nearly took me out at the same corner in the same way. Strangely I was expecting it, went WAY out of my way to avoid him, and let him pass. He promptly pit maneuvered the next car in front of me (a Honda) on the next corner, and they BOTH spun off into the dirt.

Now, I must admit, it seemed a bit predictable, and I lost my manners for a moment and yelled a few choice french words in the Killer Bee's Honor as I avoided the carnage.

But as the camera guy said after the Bee flip, "That's racing."

It was shared fault, there are no hard feelings, and I plan on rebuilding the car. I will also place a photo of their car next to the rear view mirrors so we know who to steer clear of. :-)
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Novaload
11/23/09

@KillerBRacer: Glad to hear the MGBee will live to run another day. I see from reading the thread you weren't the driver.
You can change the name to MGBe-ware!
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z0iid
11/09/09

In reply to Roll Bar Stress Test: When You Really, REALLY Need To Pass That Triumph!
And.... that is similarly how I drive my evo on a track... minus the idiotic passing mid corner. And I've yet to flip or crash. #racing
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Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
11/10/09

@z0iid: Aww, and every one else's track day was spoiled. #racing
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Turboner
11/09/09

In reply to Roll Bar Stress Test: When You Really, REALLY Need To Pass That Triumph!
Mirrors, hell, if he had his eyes open he should have seen that car, as it was in front of him! #racing
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ptschett
11/09/09

In reply to Roll Bar Stress Test: When You Really, REALLY Need To Pass That Triumph!

Seen at the Ojibwe Forests Rally this year, one of the safety guy's cars: #racing
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MrHowser: Now on XBL as NoReturnPolicy
11/08/09

In reply to Roll Bar Stress Test: When You Really, REALLY Need To Pass That Triumph!

This is what I though of when viewing the Viper crash. #racing
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CptSevere
11/08/09

In reply to Roll Bar Stress Test: When You Really, REALLY Need To Pass That Triumph!
I just love the sparks coming off of the rollbar in the first video. Man, that's impressive. The yelling in the second one is good. The car got squirrely, and he knew he was in over his head. Bummer. #racing
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rigidjunkie
11/08/09

In reply to Roll Bar Stress Test: When You Really, REALLY Need To Pass That Triumph!
Ahhh Nelson Ledges where you better know how your car is going to handle different kinds of pavement and how it reacts to changes in pavement. Last time I was there a mustang went off the same place and ended up on top of the tire wall. #racing
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jewce is fueled by sour gummy worms
11/08/09

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My favorite. #racing
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Six Flags Over Tomsk
11/09/09

@jewce is fueled by sour gummy worms: Good. God.

It looked like there was a lot more runoff area if he had gone straight. #racing
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jewce is fueled by sour gummy worms
11/09/09

@Tomsk sez so long Ash78, and thanks for all the fish!: Maybe, but assuming your brakes actually work, its almost always better to skirt the apex so you have at much pavement as possible to get it slowed down before the slippery grass. Think of a heroic trail braking excersice. In this case, I think he was FUBAR'd either way. #racing
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Turboner
11/09/09

@jewce is fueled by sour gummy worms: Shouldn't brakes be used before the corner, especially when you are a student with an instructor in the car? :) Using them in a corner is only for those who like to roll the dice... #racing
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jewce is fueled by sour gummy worms
11/09/09

@Turboner: Been a LONG time since I've completed braking in a straight line on track if the corner allows me to trail brake, which is usually around 80% of them. In this case yes, brake straight, but the point of the video is that he lost his brakes. #racing
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that ain't the way to have fun, son
11/08/09

In reply to Roll Bar Stress Test: When You Really, REALLY Need To Pass That Triumph!
The flip is amazing. Per WRC rules, the car should be put on its wheels and continue.

The Viper vid, OTOH, is kinda funny 'cause you know what's going through this guy's mind.

"ooooohhhh, this is gonna hurt...my WALLLEEETTT" #racing
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theeastbaykid
11/08/09

@I was drivin' that Model A: I first read that as "this is gonna hurt...my MULLLLETTTT" #racing
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