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    2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch

    VW Scirocco Studie R Celebrates Historic German/Italian Alliances
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    Image of PowerTryp, Starless wonder. PowerTryp, Starless wonder.
    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    Pfft, still not good enough to face the new Focus RS.
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    05/20/09

    @PowerTryp: I'm sure the interior is 100000000000 times better than the Focus RS.
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    05/20/09

    @Volvo_4_life: Does the focus RS come with an interior? I thought it just came with a seat a steering wheel and a bag of parts they forgot to install...
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    I'm beginning to think that Europe is just taunting us. Well, you can stop any time Europe. We're just as socialist as you, OK. You win. Now, give us your hot hatches, but keep your mimes. They're just creepy.
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    Sigh. Probably just as well they haven't brought it over here, or I'd have serious difficulty in justifying why I wouldn't trade in the Corrado for one of these.
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    I guess it doesn't look bad, for a hatchback.
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    05/20/09

    @UncleBenny:

    I guess your mom doesn't look bad, for a hunchback.
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    So if we can't get this, the Si Hatch and a number of other cars in the US does that mean the europeans not get the camaro, challenger etc?
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    05/20/09

    @elchimpo: Not sure about the Camaro, but they definitely get the Challenger, Mustang, etc.
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    05/20/09

    @combat chuck: But no one buys them because they're not what Europeans want.
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    05/20/09

    @jdickson87: But they get the option! I would totally trade my Si for a Scirocco, the GTI body is friggin TIRED...
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    I want one with ze German flag on the top. Why should the Brits, Italians and the Confederates always be the ones with their stupid flags painted on the roofs?
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    05/20/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: I want one with the Canadian flag on top and beer cupholders. Also, a bit off topic, but nice profile pic. Is that from Fear and Loathing?
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    And FWD. I think FWD sport hatches will be the legacy of Malaise II.
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    I see why Clarkson labels Audi drivers as "cocks" now. You'd have to be such a snob and unpleasant person to pick an Audi S3 over this car.
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    05/20/09

    @Mobius_1: But I like my 10 way power seats. The S3 has had that motor for almost 2 years too.... in Europe.


    Yeah, I'm full on cock it seams.

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    05/20/09

    @Quattro-luvr: Or bursting at the seams with cock?
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    I'm no fan of VWs but I have to admit, it's sexy. It's hard to decide between full dragon, or just putting the tip in.
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    05/20/09

    @aSoundofSleep: I'd happily split it in two.
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    05/20/09

    @aSoundofSleep: Decisions, decisions.
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    05/20/09

    @FstrPssycw:


    But then there's the risk of backfiring, loss of oil, and even *gasp* producing a smaller, less efficient Scirocco that just cries a lot.

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    05/20/09

    @aSoundofSleep: I dunno about smaller and less efficient, but Opel's got a concept for you.
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    I like it.
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    Oh noes! They put a VW grill on my C30!


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    05/20/09

    @d3c509b aka Steve: Don't insult the Sirocco!
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    Man, that thing's got more grill than Paul Wall.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    This. And the Insignia OPC Estate.
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    05/20/09

    In reply to 2010 VW Scirocco R: 265 HP Nürburgring-Shredding Hot Hatch
    Just as I don't fully understand "Passat vs. Passat CC", I don't fully understand "Scirocco vs. GTI/R32"


    Can someone perhaps enlighten me? Is it more than just image and marketing?

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    05/20/09

    @Ash78: Nope. It's just the looks.
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    05/20/09

    @Ash78: It's probably a matter of appealing to different age groups. I don't want to see granpa in a Scirocco, whereas granpas in Golfs just kind of fit.
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    05/20/09

    @Ash78: Think Ford Falcon Futura vs. Ford Mustang. The fist is a sort of sporty car that's still sedan-y enough that your wife won't suspect anything. The second is so sporty, she'll know you're cheating on her.
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    05/20/09

    @Ash78: Apparently, we americans are GTI/R32 cool but not Scirroco cool.
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    05/20/09

    @Ash78: Not really, but then the same could be said of many models out there. VW just does platform prostitution a little better than most. It doesn't seem as bad if you just think of it as a sort of "special edition" model, because that's fundamentally what it is. In the same way that other manufacturers will come out with a special model with more gadgets, gizmos, a different grille, whatever (think F150 vs. MK LT), VW comes out with a slightly different model that appeals to a different clientele. The models aren't competing against each other, they're designed to bring in someone who might not buy a GTI or Passat because they look too staid or traditional.
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    05/20/09

    It still baffles me, despite being a (thus far) VW loyal guy with thousands of hours in the forums and a graduate degree in business/marketing, how they are able to sell this along with the GTI, never mind the TT, A3, etc, just down the street at the Audi shop.


    On paper, this car ought to be a bigger screwup than the Phaeton, but yet it's still around. I guess with cannibalization, you don't notice it as much when your starving buddy is taking tiny bites out of your frostbitten fingertips. You'd notice if he chomped down on your ass, though.

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    05/20/09

    @Deartháir: Yeah, I can see the aesthetics angle, since this and the CC both look superficially better than the cars they're based upon. This kind of sub-segmentation makes more sense in Europe, where VW is the big kid, but the CC in the US is still a little confusing to me. Same car, 2/3 the space, 4/5 of the seats, slightly nicer goodies, and a 20% premium on the price. Academically, this is nuts...but practically, you can see how it might draw a budget-conscious Mercedes CLS shopper into the showroom.


    I am happy to see the next-gen GTI will adopt some of the Scirocco's cues, which is definitely nice. I'm getting a little tired of the big-mouth grille on VW and Audi. Hopefully they'll keep the weight about the same.

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    12/04/08

    In reply to VW Scirocco Studie R Celebrates Historic German/Italian Alliances
    Why can't we have this again? Oh, I know because VW is going to give it AWD and 300hp then let us have it right?......rIght?.......please.
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    12/04/08

    @Picarso: Hmmm, take a semi-portly sports coupe and turn it into an expensive, even portlier sports coupe? Didn't work so well with the R32, and with current pricing a 300hp Scirocco would probably cost between $35-40,000. Quite a difference than the base "same price as a GTI" that you can get in the UK. I say keep it FWD, keep it a nicely tuned 2.0t, and offer it within a grand of the GTI. Where do I send my vote?
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    12/04/08

    @IH_kumicho: Worked very well with the first R32. Just because they bollocksed up the second version of it doesn't mean it's not a feasible concept. I still have hope.
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