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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    Fashion Victims: Duh, It's A Fucking Volkswagen


    Since I appreciate "handling", "economy" and "not being the douche blocking someone else's view", I'd just take a GTI. Well, a Mk2 GTI. Pfeh.

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    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    I'll wait out for the TDi Golf in about a year or two. Maybe they'll even bring over the diesel GTI, I'd totally go for that.


    My girlfriend wants to buy a Tiguan, she thinks they're cute. I can't convince her to buy a "better" CUV like the RAV4 or CRV. I say, "better" because while these cars are cheaper, more reliable (considering VW's track record) and offer more utility, they also aren't as good as looking like someone took a GTI and stretched it out. Seriously, I saw one of these on the road the other day, and from behind it looks like a giant GTI.

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    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    I liked it until I saw the interior. It is as boring as Angela Merkel.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    I'm trying to think of some pithy commentary or at least a sharp one-liner to contribute to this discussion, but really...there's nothing.


    So I'll just tell a joke:

    A cab driver picks up a nun. She gets into the cab, and the cab driver won't stop staring at her.


    She asks him why he is staring and he replies, "I have a question to ask you but I don't want to offend you."


    She answers: "My dear son, you cannot offend me. When you're as old as I am and have been a nun as long as I have, you get a chance to see and hear just about everything. I'm sure that there's nothing you could say or ask that I would find offensive."


    "Well, I've always had a fantasy to have a nun kiss me." She responds,


    "Well, let's see what we can do about that: #1, you have to be single and #2 you must be a Catholic."


    The cab driver is very excited and says, "Yes, I am single and I'm Catholic too!"


    The nun says, "OK, pull into the next alley." He does and the nun fulfills his fantasy.


    But when they get back on the road, the cab driver starts crying. "My dear child." said the nun, "Why are you crying?"


    "Forgive me sister, but I have sinned. I lied, I must confess, I'm married and a I'm a Baptist."


    The nun says, "That's OK, I am on the way to a Halloween party, and my name is Kevin."

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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    11/13/08

    @Mad_Science: You forgot the end of the joke, where they go antiquing in the Tiguan.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/13/08

    @Mad_Science: Nice job cleaning that one up! That's much more decent than the version I've told... I mean... heard.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/13/08

    @Mad_Science: Thanks for the Joke Of The Day.
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    Image of 80honda 80honda
    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    On your summation, you say the Tiguan is rated 10mpg in the city. OUCH!
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    Image of Matt Hardigree Matt Hardigree
    11/13/08

    @80honda: That should be 19, thanks for the catch.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    Doesn't really appeal to me. Mind you, if they were to drop the Toureg, and replace it with a Phaeton based Xover SUV of some sort, still with W12, then........ I still probably wouldn't be interested.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/13/08

    @Rust-MyEnemyEnjoysPleasure!!!!: My god, that thing would be a beast.


    The Phaeton uses the Continental GT platform, which is basically a steel, strengthened version of the aluminium platform for the Audi A8. Really, why not reinforce it some more and put a SUV/crossover on that platform?


    Screw it, just give me a Phaeton wagon.

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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/13/08

    @Deartháir: If I could ever, EVAAR be tempted into an Xover SUVish thingy, that would be the car to do it.


    But there would be a strict anti-douchebag ownership exam before any sales allowed, and Realtors, Lawyers, Sports personalities and Celebrities would automatically be disqualified.

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    Image of MZЯ MZЯ
    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    where's the CX-7...
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/13/08

    @MZЯ: Over shopping in the "husky jeans" section.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    I'm sorry, I really like the Tiguan, I do. I've seen a few of them in person, and I think they're very stylish.


    But anyone who tries to tell me that thing is prettier than this needs a pair of jumper cables hooked up to their ears to restart their brain:

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/13/08

    @Deartháir: I go and build one on the VW site about once a week.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/13/08

    @Mad_Science: Actually I'll confess, I have the concept photos of the G8 wagon on my desktop.


    Wagons in general just make so much more sense to me than most crossovers. I actually NEED the hauling functionality only a few times a year, and most of what I've needed so far has been handled just fine with roofracks on the Corrado. I actually have a Ford Ranger that my dad is driving right now because he's an avid gardener and needs it far more than I do.


    I just can't justify the compromises of a sport-ute when I know a wagon would suit all my needs. Particularly because I know how to drive in snow, and four- or all-wheel-drive has never been truly crucial to me.

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    Image of MZЯ MZЯ
    11/13/08

    @Deartháir:



    CX-7 a-la GTi
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/13/08

    @MZЯ: My god, that needs to be killed with fire. Immediately, before it harms someone else's eyeballs.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/14/08

    @Deartháir: I'm a well-known wago-vangelist, but much of my beef with CUVs is that they took the place of good SUVs.


    Why would I want a vehicle with all of the drawbacks of an SUV (handling, speed, mileage) and none of the benefits (off-roadability, towing)?

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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    Well, at least VW's giving their Jetta-driving sorority girl demographic what they want.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/13/08

    @Maymar is convinced M.C. Escher engineered his car: Mmmm, Jetta-driving sorority girls.


    Sorry, what?

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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    The GTI, especially with 4 doors, is really cool...but I'm sure lots of Americans can't justify $25k for a hatchback. The Jetta Sportwagen (aka Golf Variant in the rest of world) is the same deal, for people who won't be seen in a wagon at any price.


    Enter the CUV and Cute-Ute, subtly saving Americans from dealing with their personal image issues and sedentary lifestyles since 1996.


    The real (secret) target market on all of these things is the Boomers who don't like to squat down to get in and out of a car. This is the single most common--and reasonable--answer I've ever heard regarding the RAV, CRV, and the rest.

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    Image of rkwadd rkwadd
    11/13/08

    @The Name's Ash78, Housewares: When that whole list of names is laid out with at least 8 cars just in the stated "Small CUV," it's amazing that VW is trying to squeeze in. It's also amazing how yawn-inspiring the segment really is.


    I suppose a Vue or Escape for the hybrid-ability is semi justifiable. And an Escape for towing. I just don't see any of those others as anything but pure ego-stroking sedan/hatchback/wagon avoidance.

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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    11/13/08

    @rkwadd: Well, CAFE does call these things trucks. From what little bit I know about CAFE, the manufacturers have a strong incentive to build things in the truck class. First, because of public perception, but also because of the extra leniency granted on calculating their average fuel economy. It's really a scam and is one of the biggest reasons we don't have more vehicles to choose from.


    For a quick comparison, Honda has the Ridgeline, CR-V, Pilot, and Element in the truck category. All unibody, all FWD or FWD-based.

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    Image of rkwadd rkwadd
    11/13/08

    @The Name's Ash78, Housewares: I'm not 100% certain that's still an issue. That was a major beef in the early SUV days when Grand Cherokees and Suburbans, previously for field geologists and search and rescue teams, started doing grocery duty.


    I admit that I need to do more research, but I thought some of the free passes for Hummers and that shit got sorted out already.

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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    11/13/08

    @rkwadd: Nope, it's still going on. One of the most extreme examples I remember is that the PT Cruiser or HHR (hell, even the Magnum) are light trucks, because they've got a flat load floor. If I'm not mistaken, the easiest way to pick it out is anything that's available with tinted rear windows (because we can't make panel vans illegal) from the factory is legally a light truck.


    It's not exactly a free pass, but it's a trick some companies use to boost their light truck averages (or, I suppose in the case of the Magnum, transfering something bringing their average down into a more lenient class).

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    11/13/08

    @Maymar is convinced M.C. Escher engineered his car: That's it, in a nutshell.


    Subaru Outback? Truck. Mazda5? Car.


    Seriously, lawmakers. WTF?

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    Image of ptr2void ptr2void
    11/13/08

    @The Name's Ash78, Housewares: "The real (secret) target market on all of these things is the Boomers who don't like to squat down to get in and out of a car."


    Is there anyplace out there that provides the seat height from ground level in their reviews?


    I'm in this target market for a slightly different reason. My wife has MS, and it's difficult for her to get into and out of a car where the seats aren't in a position such that her knees are at a less than 90-degree angle, or where she has to boost herself up into the seat. Fortunately we had a 2003 Subaru Forester at the time of her diagnosis and subsequent progression, and it just so happens to accommodate this requirement. Now that the new, redesigned Forester seems to have been boosted up some, it may not be an option when we're looking to replace it (haven't test-driven anything yet). Sadly, it's looking like perhaps the Toyota Venza -- which supposedly sits in height between the Camry and the Highlander -- would be the best choice in the future.

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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    11/13/08

    @ptr2void: I've never seen that stat listed anywhere before. You might just have to do some legwork (I bet you could get a hungry salesman to call you with this specific info).


    I'm thinking the minivans would be the way to go on that. They have low ground clearance and low floors (even compared to the Forester or Tiguan, etc). But they also have tall profiles like a CUV, making ingress easier.


    I'd check out a Sienna, Odyssey (old or new style), or Mazda5.

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    11/13/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Three
    Apparently, Do Not Tiguant.
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    11/13/08

    @boosted-lego-wagon: I see what you did there.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/12/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Two
    HEY! Wait a minute... That's not a minivan!
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/12/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Two
    Hey, what tattoo did you get? What'ya get pierced?


    (You show me yours and I'll show you mine...)

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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    11/12/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Two
    Long nose, funny name. What's not to love?


    Auto Hold sounds sweet...I always pop my auto into neutral during long red lights so I can take my foot off the brake. With this button, you can be neutral on a hill!


    Yes, it may not be the most necessary thing in the world, but it's at least less useless than Aston Martin and Nissan startup procedures.

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    11/12/08

    @bmoredlj: I stick my slushbox Mystique into Manual so the goddamn thing won't shake itself apart. I really need to find a girl I don't care about, date her for a month, mount a dildo to the driver's seat and leave her with the car.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/12/08

    In reply to 2009 Volkswagen Tiguan S, Part Two
    I suspect this is the type of vehicle everyone here will hate, but will be loved by it's (many) owners.


    The inherent pseudo-logic associated with a compact CUV assures us the buyer is already fooling themselves, so it should be plenty easy to fool them.


    Meanwhile, I'll take the a SportWagen...just not sure if I want speed or economy.

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