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    Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed

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    Image of RustedBrit RustedBrit
    02/09/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    Definately strange, but with so many similarities between 140-200 series models, almost any configuration can be hacked together... my favorite hack is the 165.
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    02/09/09

    @RustedBrit: I'd like a 164 Wagon - 2 doors on the passenger side, one on the drivers. Easier than having to make a new "165" emblem for the trunk.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/09/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    There's another possibility, I don't think we've considered. They could have been produced simply as showroom models, like the harlequin Rabbits. They would have saved space for smaller showrooms, so you could see what both the two door and the four door cars were like on the same vehicle. Would have saved a bit of cash outlay, too.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    Volvo fanatics report only one "3 door" and it was a hatch:


    [www.volvoclub.org.uk]

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/08/09

    @NovaloadMissesPolar: I emailed Murilee about the "Volvo Escort" a while back.
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    Image of Number_Six Number_Six
    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    I would approach it from a different angle every day because sometimes I like the sedan, sometimes the coupe. However it came to be, it is made of win.
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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    02/08/09

    @Number_Six, unsecured and hacked: Business at the side, party at the ... side!


    ... YEAH!

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    Image of LJSearles LJSearles
    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    Wasn't there a version of the AMC Pacer that had differing length doors?
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    @LJSearles: I think they all had longer passenger doors, to make it easier to get into that spacious rear seat. But I think the door was only about two inches longer. Obvs., they hadn't thought about the lucrative UK export market when they designed it.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    This looks like a welding job to me. Probably the result of a left rear quarter collision, and a body shop tech with a wild hair.
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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    Well, my vote is for one-off custom weirdness- but why not say so, in that case?


    Here's a pic of a custom '73 143S:

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/08/09

    @Slantsick, Ethel's love-child: Dude, cool. It gets Jalopoints for "doors welded shut", right?
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    @Slantsick, Ethel's love-child: Wow. That actually works. And the sheet metal's lighter than glass, too.


    For some reason, the photo didn't load right, for me, when you first posted it.


    Maybe even better, if it wasn't painted such a Nick-ish color. You could hand out a lot of candy from a ride like that!

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    Image of BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ
    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    Did we had our great weekend foto of the week?

    Here it is and volvo related, and no door at all.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    @BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - two wheels FTW: You never disappoint, my friend! I hope, that with enough study, I can figure out the propulsion system.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/08/09

    @Van Sarockin: I'm assuming geothermal, myself. *grin*
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    02/08/09

    @BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Now with brand new booze fueled Chevy S-10: I wouldn't mind a go on that.......
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    02/08/09

    @BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Now with brand new booze fueled Chevy S-10: Curves in all the right places.


    And the wheeled thingy has a lot of rounded bits, too.

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    Image of layabout layabout
    02/08/09

    @BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Now with brand new booze fueled Chevy S-10: Another nice Volvo...
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    02/08/09

    @BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Now with brand new booze fueled Chevy S-10: Who says everything Volvo makes is boring and ugly?
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    Image of BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ
    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: You see Volvo is doing hard their best to get of their boxiness image.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    02/08/09

    @Fluffy, Pushbroom: I'm going to have to say the vehicle is powered by an invisible force of magnetic attraction...
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    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: Geily, Mr. Geely daughter, daddy buy me a Volvo. The old Geely didn´t understood well and bought Volvo.
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    Image of BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ
    02/08/09

    @RCN8: You do not hear me say that. I have owned several 142 an 144 models. The P1800S and P1800ES fit in my fantasy garage as does the P1900
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    02/08/09

    @BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Now with brand new booze fueled Chevy S-10: Oh i dunno, i'm sure there is a nice box in that pic somewhere.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    @LJSearles: You had to go there.
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    02/08/09

    @BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Now with brand new booze fueled Chevy S-10: I like this angle a bit more...


    [www.seriouswheels.com]

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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    @Fej - it's not good, it's extreme good: Just like a toboggan: plenty of room for one more!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    I just noticed this from Matt's Volvo-wagon post:


    "(the five doors means it's a 245, as opposed to the 242 we race)"



    One, two, three, four. Are the rear doors welded shut?

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/08/09

    @Fluffy, Pushbroom: Well, obviously they're not in THAT photo, as they were able to be transplanted to a donor 244.
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    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    Sorry for the thread jack,but i was just reading about this abandoned Bugatti that just sold for £3 million. I'm bored & thought others may be of interest. It has a really good story to go with it too [news.uk.msn.com]
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    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power:


    Mmmmm...that's about right. Here's hoping they don't fuck it up....i.e. no restoration necessary.

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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: She sure cleans up nice.


    A few year's ago I went to a museum show of Ralph Lauren's (bastard) cars, and there was a Bugatti among them. Perfectly realized design in every line and detail, exquisite craftmanship in the finest materials. It easily dominated the room it was in, which included a Maclaren road car and a 300SL.

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    Image of layabout layabout
    02/08/09

    @Rican5.0: @Van Sarockin: Must admit the old Bugatti's are great looking cars,seems a shame that most will be locked away in private collections.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    02/08/09

    @Van Sarockin: That would be the even more heady $7+ million 57SC Atlantique. 1 of maybe 3 or 4. This Bugatti is very similar, but with a more pedestrian bodystyle.


    I went to that show, but my favorites were the black Type 38 Gran Prix with external electrics and gear change and the exquisite red Alfa 8C 2900 Mille Miglia.

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    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: Nothing to be sorry for. And stop calling me Jack!
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    Image of joneez wants the clunkers he paid for joneez wants the clunkers he paid for
    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: Probably the best (and sometimes only) way to see Bugattis is a historic race like the Monterey Historics, where I caught these, or in your case, Goodwood (lucky bastard!)



    They certainly make great music on the track.

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    Image of layabout layabout
    02/09/09

    @joneez is enjoying a California 'winter': Now that is an expensive line up.
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    02/09/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: [jalopnik.com]
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    I feel cheated. I was looking forward to seeing the hatchback version. Basically, Volvo just beat Saturn to the punch. Or they were channeling their inner van manufacturer.


    Unlikely that these were police specials. You don't want to give your suspect the opportunity the wedge himself back into a hole. Disconnecting the interior latches is the way that ever other PD and manufacturer handles this. If your perp won't get out, you send someone around to the other door to drag him out.


    Makes me wonder if there couldn't be a mother-in-law version - rear doors, but no passenger door?

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/08/09

    @Van Sarockin: You made both the comments I was intending on - first, "Volvo SC2!", second, "I wanted a two-door wagon!"
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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    02/08/09

    @Van Sarockin: Actually there was a Porsche/AMG 928 four door which preceded the Saturn.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    @Maxichamp: I thought we were talking three-doors?
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    Image of layabout layabout
    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    Well it's different,the only 3 door car i can think of is the Mini Clubman,less said about that the better.
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    Image of c0de c0de
    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: i hate to be an ass, but technically isn't the clubman a 5 door ? (ignore the bored bloke with obviously nothing to do)
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    02/08/09

    @c0de: Well any hatchback could be classed as a 3 or 5 door,but the Clubman has a genuine 3 doors,two on on side of the car & one on the other...


    Just put the pic on,& i see what you mean.

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    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: I count five...
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: I say five, because the rear hatch opens as two doors, rather than a hatch. I reckon a Saturn SC would be a better comparison, though I get what you're saying.
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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: RX-8


    Though, like the clubman, the third door is a little midget thing that opens suicide style.


    I honestly can't think of any other car that has three full-size doors. I'm sure there's some obscure French or Soviet car I never even knew existed though.

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    Image of Jim-Bob Jim-Bob
    02/08/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: I can think of a truck: 1960's Chevy Suburbans were available as 3 doors. I have seen a few and I think they were made like that right up until the 1973 redesign.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    @Jim-Bob: Vans typically only had side doors on the passenger side. My first had six doors, but only four openings. A few variants of that model were built with another set of cargo doors on the driver's side; so five openings and eight doors. Must be pretty close to a record...
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/08/09

    @Van Sarockin: Minivans, especially. Chrysler made a big deal of the "fourth door" on the extended Grand & Country in the late '90s.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    @Fluffy, Pushbroom: Right. I'm talking hinged and Sixties.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    02/08/09

    @Van Sarockin: You're right there, too, of course.


    And I should have guessed that, given your name.

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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/08/09

    @Fluffy, Pushbroom: And of course, I wasn't even going to mention hinged wing windows, pop-out windows, hinged skylights and roof vents, and articulating camper tops....


    Of course, I'm sure that all those doors didn't do much for structural integrity. Not that there was ever all that much to begin with. Driving my FC Econoline, there was never any doubt that YOU were the crumple zone. Really helps to keep your concentration focused.

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    02/08/09

    @Van Sarockin: The old Mazda MPV. It had three conventional doors at first.
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    02/08/09

    @something_unique_and_descripti...: Nope.
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    02/09/09

    @layabout now with V8 power: I love the Clubman, jus not crazy about the racoon eye effect on the rear lights
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    02/09/09

    @superveloce: Ah, Mitsubishi's Minica was available with two doors on one side and one on the other for some time. Here's a picture, you can see that the right side only has one door:



    They called it the "1:2 Door"...


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    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    I like it but was hoping it would be like a 2 door wagon.
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    02/08/09

    @j6r: me too, that would have been sweet.
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    02/08/09

    @j6r:


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    @The Auto Insider: The first not so, but the second is nice indeed, take off the spoiler and have the original chrome bumbers and it´s perfect.
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    02/08/09

    @The Auto Insider: The irony of being taken to your grave in the safest brand of cars in the world is not lost on me.
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    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    In 1982, Estonia was part of the Soviet Union, so the theory of exporting cars to there seems a bit untrue.


    Also, photos of more than one car in this configuration would also lead to a bit more proof. All we have here is photos of the same car in two different colours.


    As for Wikipedia, I have put all sorts of fake stuff that has gone unchallenged for months at a time. My record is 27 months. It is a fun game to play with your friends and a way to show that Wikipedia is a complete and utter joke.

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    Image of morcheeba morcheeba
    02/08/09

    @Triborough: I'll bet the lock on your house are a complete and utter joke, but I don't break in and rearrange your furniture because that would make me a douchebag.
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    02/08/09

    @morcheeba: If you tried that, the dog would probably stop you. As for Wikipedia, it needs to be exposed for the fraud that it is.
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    02/08/09

    @Triborough: In that spirit, here is the best long-lasting Wikipedia prank I've seen.


    [en.wikipedia.org]

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    02/08/09

    @Triborough: You speak the truth.
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    02/08/09

    @Triborough: "The fraud that it is" ??? Dude, you make too big a deal of it.


    Wikipedia's a great reference for all kinds of random facts. I usually have to look up a few things a day there.


    Now, you're missing the point if you use it as the sole source of info on an otherwise hotly debated topic. Even then you can check the references (or lack thereof) on any statement.


    I get the feeling you lost and argument on there and have an axe to grind.

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    02/09/09

    @Triborough: ...which it wouldn't be if not for...wait, who? Oh yea - YOU!
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    02/08/09

    In reply to Ultra-Rare Or Ultra-Custom 1982 Volvo 243 3-Door Crossbreed
    The police special has a feel of truth to it, but really, the fact is with a unibody chassis this would be difficult to do. The easiest way to do this is to cut the side off one car and weld to the side of another car, leading one to believe that this is a one-off custom. Weird, though. Why? comes to mind as well.
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    Image of Sanfam Sanfam
    02/08/09

    @X3SoB: As silly as it seems, this is far from difficult to do, even as an aftermarket hackjob. I spent some great deal of time investigating a 242+245=243 Hatch conversion of my own and came to the realization that these cars were only a few weld points away from either two or four doors at a few places during their construction. It's almost as easy as simply relocating the b-pillar rearward to the existing weld points within the passenger compartment, with 90% of the fabrication coming from adapting the rear quarter to fill in the gap left by losing the door/door glass.


    I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    02/08/09

    @Sanfam: Your technical prowess just earned you a heart click. I would indeed drink beer in your garage while working on anything interesting given that insight.
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