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    Image of cyclopticgaze cyclopticgaze
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    Danger Will Robinson: It's a round-tail car, but -- from what I can see -- the nose is from a late-model square-tail 2002. Front end collision in its past? Hard to tell in those pics.


    Looks like a stock fuel tank in the trunk. No fuel cell in a track car? What other safety features does it lack? Again, can barely tell in those tiny pics.


    I don't know what class he's raced, but it's not vintage. Not with those wheels and that ricey wing.


    Still: Nice Price. There's no argument (unless there's rust). The trailer, spare parts, side draught carbs, custom dash, strut braces front and back, rear battery relocate.

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    I said crack pipe, based on the seller's logic.

    "But, honey, the car's free!"

    "You paid $15k for a trailer and some spare parts?"

    "Well, kind of. Yeah. But look, the car's free!"

    "How much would the car be without the trailer and the parts?"

    "Well, gosh. A lot. A lot more than $15k. I guess. Well, no. Uh, lemme think a minute."
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    05/11/09

    @Novaload Misses Murilee: Ah, but how much would the trailer and parts be worth without the car? None.


    Wait... I'm not sure if that helps or hurts your argument... because your argument makes my brain hurty.

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    Image of IH_kumicho IH_kumicho
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    1) So buy the car, and sell:


    Trailer

    Wheels

    Tires

    Brakes

    Seat

    anything else that could be considered 'safety equipment' and isn't governed by the $500 limit


    2) Get a $500 theoretical deduction of your expenses due to the fact that it already has a roll cage (or was it $1k?).


    3) Enter into your local LeMons Race.


    4) Win the People's Curse and watch your expensive race car get crushed.


    Did I miss anything?

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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    05/11/09

    @IH_kumicho: I've never seen people's curse given to a vintage car. Especially something as universally loved as a 2002. You'd get your BS laps and that would likely be that. Unless you were a dick, in which case Jay might actually invoke the $500 claiming rule.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    According to the highly scientific and BMW-fanboy-incluenced engineerd Fair Market Value (eFMV patent pending) calculation, this is not only a Nice Price, but a Greatly Awesomer Price (GAP).


    Why, you ask? This car is money in the bank. "No," you say, "Mr. Graverobber already showed it is $2500." "No," I say, "It's free and I'll show you why."


    First, the seller says the trailer is $3000. What the seller forgets is that for a couple bucks in Krylon black spray paint, that trailer could easily fetch $5000. You don't need a trailer. Drive the car to and from the races and you'll be the envy of your competition.


    Second, the seller says there are $10000 in spare parts. Pffft. Spare parts are for people who don't know how to drive. Sell those spare parts, but since they are for a BMW you can easily mark them up 300% to 500%...even more if it's a rare part.


    You see, when investing in a vintage race car like this, you have to keep in mind that there is a sucker born every minute. Sure, you may seem like that sucker when you drop $15500 on a car, trailer and assorted parts, but after you get $5000 for the trailer and $20000 for the parts you will have the last laugh.

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    Image of Vintage Racer - with V-12 goodness Vintage Racer - with V-12 goodness
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    And if you were wondering what you get for 50K plus...


    Sovren 2007 PNW Historics IMGP3203


    Sovren 2007 PNW Historics IMGP3207


    Sovren 2007 PNW Historics IMGP3208

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    Image of Vintage Racer - with V-12 goodness Vintage Racer - with V-12 goodness
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    I'd like to see some better pictures... and that tire & wheel combo has got to go. they may be SCCA legal, but not likely vintage legal.

    Need some engine compartment and interior shots... that said, this is my idea of a nice BMW -


    1967 BMW 1600 B Sedan IMGP7319


    1967 BMW 1600 B Sedan IMGP7283

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    Image of domino domino
    05/11/09

    @Vintage Racer is sooooo getting fired for this: that car should come with a change of panties.
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    Image of MagicalTrevor MagicalTrevor
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    Holy acronym Batman! I only recognize the first two and the last one...
    VARA? SCTA? ECTA? NLRC? HELOC?
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    05/11/09

    @MagicalTrevor: HELOC is home equity line of credit--nothing like a second mortgage to keep your racin' spirit alive!
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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    (must read post) OK, its a 71...same year as the one I used to have, so it is a roundy-tailight model.


    Super Nice Price!

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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    It needs a repaint, and that gawdawful wing has got to go...also I'm thinking some minilites might be more appropriate than the curent rollers she's wearing.


    I can't tell if its the older, round-tailight model or one of the newer ones. But still, the last model of dual-headlight Bavarian Driving Machine, in full race trim, for less than the cost of a new Corolla? How is this NOT a Nice Price?


    *grain of salt: I've daily driving a Volvo 122 these days

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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    This guy had quite the set-up. A fully preped BMW, Race Trailer, and looks like a Sprinter (motorhome conversion?) pressed into towing duties.


    You know the car is light, because Sprinters are only rated to tow 5,000 pounds, and that usually on a bare ass cargo version.

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    Image of area_educator area_educator
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    So, I was looking at my accounts the other day, and $15k is pretty much exactly the cash I have on hand.


    A ready to go 2002 race car, trailer and all... I'm buying ramen for a while!

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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    05/11/09

    @area_educator: I think we all know that this car is a far, far better investment of that coin than any hedge fund or CD.
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    05/11/09

    In reply to 1971 BMW 2002 Racer for $15,500 — Or Maybe Free!
    Beautiful car, and even more awesome in racing trim. This is probably the definition of "Ultimate Driving Machine" before governments decided nobody should die in a car crash anymore, and we all had to have a satnav to guide us to the nearest cliff.


    Nice Price, and all those freebies? Hell yeah!

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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    04/14/09

    In reply to Vintage Automotive Americana Caught By 35mm Lens
    The last photo is awesome! Someone was listening!


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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    04/14/09

    In reply to Vintage Automotive Americana Caught By 35mm Lens
    I was going over some old family photos from the 1930s, 40s and 50s over the Easter weekend with my mother. She was getting annoyed because I cared more about the cars than the 3rd cousins or whatever in the photos. I found a great photo of my grandfater in a 1930s sedan-delivery of some sort (not a Ford)when he worked for Palmolive as a salesman. There was also a great photo of a 1940 Mercury and a Kaiser Manhattan.
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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    04/14/09

    In reply to Vintage Automotive Americana Caught By 35mm Lens

    "In Kennedy-era America, whale hauls in boat."


    Yeah, I know, that sucks. Love the pic, though.

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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    04/14/09

    @SlantySickbroom: One reason I'm on Jalopnik right now instead of doing homework is that I feel that if I miss another of your name changes, I'm going to miss something awesome.
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