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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    07/27/09

    In reply to Nissan Shows Off Versa-Flavored EV Platform
    What's up here? Is this a convention of the Society for the Preservation of Internal Combustion?

    Let Nissan play. Maybe they'll come up with something interesting.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    07/27/09

    In reply to Nissan Shows Off Versa-Flavored EV Platform
    Mmmmm. Wheatgrass.

    Actually I'm serious. They sell it at Booster Juice up here, and it's quite yummy, particularly when followed with a Mango Hurricane.

    Hmm. Where are my keys?
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    07/27/09

    In reply to Nissan Shows Off Versa-Flavored EV Platform
    "Nissan has developed a sophisticated IT system for its zero-emission EVs, connecting the vehicle's on-board transmitting unit to a global data centre*2 to support EV driving 24 hours 7 days a week."

    So, will I be getting emails letting me know my vehicle will be unavailable from 6am to noon Saturday for server maintenance?
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    Image of layabout layabout
    07/27/09

    In reply to Nissan Shows Off Versa-Flavored EV Platform
    Usually the term "show off" is reserved for something to take pride in,i see nothing to be proud of here.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    07/27/09

    @layabout returns: Yeah, I have to agree with you there. It's an existing car with a transplanted electric pipe-dream. I mean, powerplant. It's good for nothing but getting some more press from outfits like Jalopnik.
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    Image of maximum-sienna maximum-sienna
    07/27/09

    In reply to Nissan Shows Off Versa-Flavored EV Platform
    I feel like kicking the EV Versa and EV Cube in the krown Joules.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    07/27/09

    In reply to Nissan Shows Off Versa-Flavored EV Platform
    The Tiida is the Versa in the US

    Isn't it also the Renault Versa in Europe? Or did they change the name over there?
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    Image of layabout layabout
    07/27/09

    @Ash78: Never heard of a Renault Versa,the closest thing they have is the Megane.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    07/27/09

    @layabout returns: My mind is playing tricks on me. When they brought it to the states a few years ago, I recognized it as a Renault, but didn't realize it was an entirely new name.
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    07/27/09

    @Ash78: I think the Versa shares a platform with the Renault Scenic
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    Image of layabout layabout
    07/27/09

    @dwegmull: Megane/Scenic use the same platform too
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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    11/26/08

    In reply to Hyundai Accent Takes Back Title Of Cheapest Car In America At $9,970
    Okay, I'll say it: Crack Pipe.
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    Image of m_thrizzle m_thrizzle
    11/26/08

    In reply to Hyundai Accent Takes Back Title Of Cheapest Car In America At $9,970
    Why buy a new POS for $10k when you can buy a more reliable 3 or 4 year old car like a Civic for the same price? I will never understand that.
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    11/26/08

    @m_thrizzle: Thanks to the Gas crunch and perceived brand value, Civics, Corollas, Accords and Camrys are DRASTICALLY overvalued in the used car market.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/26/08

    In reply to Hyundai Accent Takes Back Title Of Cheapest Car In America At $9,970
    You wouldn't buy a day-to-day car without a heater, so why would you buy one without a/c? You can bundle up for winter (I did have a car with no heater for awhile, so I know this first hand, alas) but even driving naked ain't gonna help in 100 degrees. Dehydration is a bitch.
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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    11/26/08

    @NovaloadMissesPolar: I totally would buy a vehicle without AC -in fact, none of my vehicles has ever had functioning AC. Because, I live in Maine. We may have 3 days a year where it would be nice to have, but a heater is essential about 5 months out of the year.


    I drove a Dart sans heater-core for 3 years, and bundling up doesn't really do it, nor does it help when you have to scrape both sides of your windshield.

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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/26/08

    @NovaloadMissesPolar:


    What, no 'delete heater' option?


    Oh, yeah, this isn't 1967 any more....

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/26/08

    @Slantsick- on the 12th floor of the ACME Building: The problem with the three days a year thing is that those three days are REALLY DAMNED HUMID as well. We deal with it well enough, though.


    (42.8 degrees north latitude, here.)

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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    11/26/08

    @Kelly: More's the pity- though off the top of my head I can think of three post-'67 advancements that're nice to have: blinkers, 3-point seatbelts, and disc brakes.. other than that, I'm not checking any boxes.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/26/08

    @Slantsick- on the 12th floor of the ACME Building: How about alarms, keyless entry, plastic-covered-foam bumpers, and cupholders?


    Me either.

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    11/26/08

    @Slantsick- on the 12th floor of the ACME Building: I just realized that aside from fuel injection (which is nice) and black-plastic covers over the bumpers, my '89 244DL isn't that different from a '67 anything. No cupholders, crank windows, no airbags, and power steering that doesn't do shit.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    11/26/08

    In reply to Hyundai Accent Takes Back Title Of Cheapest Car In America At $9,970
    Yeah, when I was a kid, I never believed my dad when he told me some cars were sold without A/C, mostly in Canada. Having grown up in Florida (at state that essentially exists BECAUSE of A/C).


    I could live without it in Alabama, but my passengers would hate me.

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    Image of Jimal is a non-attorney spokesperson Jimal is a non-attorney spokesperson
    11/26/08

    In reply to Hyundai Accent Takes Back Title Of Cheapest Car In America At $9,970
    Let me get this straight...
    It's a relatively cool looking little car for what it is. Manual transmission, as God intended it. No crappy factory stereo to remove before installing my own. No air conditioning to add weight and break down. Steel wheels that I could replace with anything I'd like, such as a set of Minilites.


    Where do I sign up?

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/26/08

    @Jimal: The only thing I'm afraid of with "no radio" is that they mean "no radio, no harness, no place for an antenna".
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    Image of Pete Gaines Pete Gaines
    11/26/08

    @FuzzyPlushroom: No, they're wired for radios. I don't know about the Accent, but the cheap Versa even has speakers.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/26/08

    @Pete Gaines: Okay, cool. Stolen head unit for $50, here we come.
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    11/26/08

    In reply to Hyundai Accent Takes Back Title Of Cheapest Car In America At $9,970
    Guess they don't plan on selling too many of these in the South or Southwest. Why would you spend $10k on a car that didn't even have a/c? (Unless it is something along the lines of a Se7en) The general rule around here is any car that runs is worth $500, but worth at least $750 if the a/c still works. If you live any place that has more than 4 months where the temp can be over 90 you NEED a/c! I can't imagine a dealer actually selling any of these without a/c in Atlanta. It would be like trying to sell a new car without heat in Wisconsin.
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    Image of PatFromGundo PatFromGundo
    11/26/08

    In reply to Hyundai Accent Takes Back Title Of Cheapest Car In America At $9,970
    No air, no radio...why, it's the Hyundai Accent Clubsport!
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    11/26/08

    @PatFromGundo: Alternately, it's the Hyundai Accent Carrera RS!
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    11/26/08

    @Paul Y. can't think of a better, shorter handle:

    A couple more:

    - Accent Super Leggera?

    - Accent Challenge stradale?
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/26/08

    @PatFromGundo: As long as it's not the Hyundai Accent Eurosport.
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    11/26/08

    In reply to Hyundai Accent Takes Back Title Of Cheapest Car In America At $9,970
    While the Accent isn't my thing, I applaude the availability of a stripped down (standard transmission, no radio, no a/c) car.


    I hope this is a trend. If the trend finds its way upmarket to more spirited offerings, I might be intrigued.


    Unfortunately, the US gub'ment won't let them offer it without airbags. That's a delete I'd take even if it didn't lower the price any.

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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    11/26/08

    @smalleyxb122: I, for one, welcome our new stripper-model econobox overlords.


    Now, if I could get a genuinely compact pickup as a stripper model off a dealer lot, we'd be talking.


    The 95 GMC Slownoma I used to have had nearly zero options (it did have a bed liner, but that was likely aftermarket), but it was screwed together by incompetent New Jersey "people," so it fell apart like a Brilliance BS6 in a crash test. If I could have something like that, but without the Cavalier engine, and U-joints that lasted more than a week, I'd be a happy man.

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    Image of DannyBN DannyBN
    11/26/08

    @smalleyxb122: How much would they knock off the MSRP if they made carpeting optional? I'd gladly go without it.
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    Image of RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
    11/26/08

    @DannyBN:


    It is in trucks.


    What you guys are all describing sounds like a Silverado WT, which you can get with a vinyl bench, no carpet, and I believe even roll-up windows.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/26/08

    @rlj676-new job, same problems: And bed sides you need a forklift to throw stuff over. Honestly, if they'd lower the damn beltline...
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/26/08

    In reply to Hyundai Accent Takes Back Title Of Cheapest Car In America At $9,970
    So for 90% of U.S. buyers that no-frills Accent is a whopping $13,670. I'm cheap, but I'm not so cheap that I would do without A/C. If Versa's entry model comes with a magic anti-sweat machine, Nissan still wins.
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