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    Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!

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    Image of skitter skitter
    09/28/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    When you're running the Caddilac, go to such excess with your gig that nobody in a position to bring the hammer down on you could possibly believe it. When you bring an act into this town, you want to bring it in heavy. Don't waste any time with cheap shucks and misdemeanors. Go straight for the jugular. Get right into felonies. Take it right through the fence. Pump the experimental tires up to 100 psi. Pause, but only for a moment, to soak up the wonder when you get away with it.
    /I'm not going to tell him about the bats. The poor bastard will see them soon enough.
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    Image of Comrade Teargaskov Comrade Teargaskov
    09/28/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    We drive Lada yesterday for first time since we put it on the trailer in Toronto. We had small party in downtown Traverse City, Michigan. Here is footage:
    [www.youtube.com]
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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    09/28/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    Gotta say, the Caddy sure got beat by the ugle stick from '60 to '61!
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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    09/28/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    Iz Lada... 1.3 GTX Turbo..... iz smooth...like snake.
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    Image of Arcweld Your Soul Arcweld Your Soul
    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    A spectre is haunting LeMons — the spectre of Glorious Soviet Engineering. All the powers of old have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Honda and GM, Toyota and Mazda, French Peugeots and German Mercedes-Benzes.

    Where is the Glorious Soviet Machine that has not been decried as a junkpile by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of crappiness, against the more advanced opposition automobiles, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?

    Two things result from this fact:

    I. Glorious Soviet Engineering is already acknowledged by all powers to be itself a power.

    II. It is high time that Ladas should openly, in the face of the whole world, kick the buns of the capitalist and bourgeois pigs clear across Siberia, and meet this nursery tale of the Index of Effluency in the pursuit of glory and bags of hard currency for the Motherland!

    (PS: Lada: 483. Cadillac: 371.)
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    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    That Lada is one of the most badass Lemons cars since the Black Metal V8lvo. And the Caddy is a wonderful temple to American excess. Quite a battle!
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    Lada 350 veeeery slow laps.

    Caddy- 150. What can I say?
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    Lada: 315 laps
    Caddy: 280 laps

    The Cadillac's girth, combined with its flaccid X-frame and hardtop sedan body, will break stuff when pushed hard.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/27/09

    @Tomsk welcomes the Jezebanned home: It has a cage now! Plenty strong!

    I think the fuel system is the weak point. So far, every LeMons car that sat for years and didn't get a new gas tank has broken down every 10 laps or so.
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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    09/28/09

    @Murilee Martin: You can say that again! I hope that Caddy's getting a fuel cell.

    As for "pushed hard", I hope they motor around the course at gentlemanly speeds, wearing a Fedora and smoking a stogey, listening to ole Blue Eyes. If they keep that up, they might manage 300 laps.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/28/09

    @mechimike: I do that in my Volvo. Well, minus the cigar.
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    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    Caddy: 248

    Lada: 242
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    The Cadillac is a much, much, much better-built car... but cars that sit for decades before becoming a LeMons racer usually don't do so well.

    The VAZ-2107, on the other hand, was a runner when purchased.

    I'm going to say 344 laps for the Fiat, 165 for the Cadillac.
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    09/27/09

    @Murilee Martin: Ahem, usually is the right word.... however, the Corvair did just fine.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/27/09

    @UDMan: Yes, but didn't you clean the hell out of the fuel tank/lines?
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    09/27/09

    @Murilee Martin: Why yes, yes I did, and actually installed a fuel cell to boot. Listen up everyone who wants to run a 60's or 70's car, do yourself a favor, and ditch the fuel tank, and use a fuel cell, and run new fuel lines. It will save you from having a lot of problems.
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    09/27/09

    @Murilee Martin: Geez, with all these older cars beating my record, I have to start thinking about something from the 50's. Say a Studebaker, or a Nash, or how about a Henry J?
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/28/09

    @UDMan: These guys didn't touch the fuel system, other than a carb rebuild and an electric fuel pump. There's probably some pretty scary stuff clinging to the sides and top of the gas tank right now... stuff that will rattle loose after a few laps on the track.
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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    09/28/09

    @UDMan: Amen, second that, brother.
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    09/28/09

    @UDMan: I have a '49 Plymouth I just picked up for $500. Murilee's been trying to goad me into running it.
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    Image of Franzouse Franzouse
    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    I wanna see uncle Sam beat the crap out of uncle Joe, so I'll say 350 laps for the Cadillac and 189 for the Lada.
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    Image of CptSevere CptSevere
    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    I thought there was a 4000 pound weight limit for LeMons races? I glad they bent that rule here.

    Caddy. It'll wallow all over the place on the curves, but that 390 waking up on the straights will get their attention. Leave the shift lever alone, it has the four speed Hydramatic and reverse is all the way to the right. You might think you're dropping it into passing gear, but you just grenaded the transmission.

    The '56 Caddy I bought when I was 18 was in worse shape than this and survived me beating on it for a year. This one should last for a weekend. Best of luck.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/27/09

    @CptSevere: 4200, and this Caddy would make it if they cut off the roof and fins.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/27/09

    @CptSevere: Special cars can get a waiver on the weight limit.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    Seriously, Caddy. Nothing against the Lada team, but unless they entirely rebuilt it, I think it comes from a place and time where it was worth $200 new. The Caddy can shed hundreds of parts before losing anything essential. One or two things fall of the Lada, it's doomed. I say the Caddy will go at least 500; I think the Lada will die before 150.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!

    U. S. A.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/27/09

    @Novaload: I love it. Every so often, something amazing comes from SA.
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    09/27/09

    In reply to Capitalism Takes On Communism In Ohio: 1961 Cadillac Versus Lada Signet!
    The Caddy and the Lada both have mechanical simplicity on their sides, but the Caddy has the advantage of parts availability if something should fail that can't be fixed with duct tape and bailing wire.

    I'll give the edge to the Caddy, and give it one lap for each stated cubic inch of displacement. 390 laps.

    The Lada will be no slouch, but will place behind the Cadillac with a total of 342 laps.

    I'm looking forward to finally attending a race, and this one promises to be a good one.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/28/09

    @smalleyxb122: Does the plain ol' BOP TH400 from the 70s bolt into the '61 Cadillac, or does it have some oddball ancient-Caddy-only transmission?
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