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brandegee
05/20/09

In reply to Vauxhall Insignia Sport Tourer VXR: A Spectacular 320 HP Wagon You Can't Have
Sorry, after what Opel bits and GM management did to the Saab 9-3 I think I'll pass.
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cchannel BLT
05/20/09

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320 hp yet 0-60 in 6sec?? A Rav-4 3.5v6 can do that.
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Ben Wojdyla
05/20/09

@cchannel: And by 6.0 seconds you mean 7.2 seconds? Edmunds]
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middlejester
05/20/09

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320 hp awd full size wagon? Actually, you can buy this in the States. It's called a 2002-2003 Audi S6 Avant, and it'll only set you back about $16000.
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Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
05/20/09

@middlejester: $16,000 down, $16,000 per year maintenance ;)
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Mobius
05/20/09

@Ash78: Paying less for an old car and then spending a Ferrari's ransom on fixing it up and burnt-out tires.

That is the Jalop way.
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Mad_Science
05/20/09

@middlejester: AWD Hemi Magnum, too.
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Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
05/20/09

@Mobius_1: Hear, hear.

Plus, with so few wagons/estates on this side of the pond, you have to pay to play, as the saying goes. Apart from the European mfrs, only Subaru builds a wagon. Most of the American and Asians won't touch them.
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Lemmy-powered
05/20/09

@Ash78: Your post should read: "...only Subaru IMPORTS a wagon."

There are plenty of wonderful Asian cars that never make it to North America. How about a diesel Honda Accord (Acura TSX) wagon, par exemple?
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Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
05/20/09

@Lemmy-powered: Right, good point. Honda's too busy selling its "trucks" here so it can keep up with CAFE.

Euro Accord wagon is a very nice car.
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Cognitive Friction
05/20/09

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Needs more faux-wood paneling + backwards facing 3rd row bench seat
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Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
05/20/09

In reply to Vauxhall Insignia Sport Tourer VXR: A Spectacular 320 HP Wagon You Can't Have
CAFE's "truck vs car" designation has EVERYTHING to do with why we don't have these. It's not because Americans inherently don't want wagons, it's because you dangle 50 CUVs in front of us with the occasional wagon and wonder why people are choosing #1 more frequently.

Asinine.
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RagtagOperation
05/20/09

@Ash78: Uh, sorry, but except for Jalopnik readers, for the past 15 years or so, wagons have been seen as dorkier than minivans. Minivans! And those were seen as grocery-getter, you-lose-as-a-man mobiles when the SUV came out and started replacing those, letting dads pretend they still had some machismo after settling down in the suburbs. It's never been about CAFE, it's been about perception.

But hey, trends are tricky, and the gradual acceptance of hatches in the small car segment and crossovers in larger sizes means some day we'll just come around and admit what we always wanted was a wagon all along.
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Mad_Science
05/20/09

@RagtagOperation: It's been about both.

It's a generational thing. Minivans replaced wagons, SUVs replaced minivans. CUVs are replacing SUVs because people realized they didn't really want to ride in trucks.

Wagons are due for a comeback, particularly as people like me (born '82) start to have kids. Our moms drove minivans and SUVs. We recognize that you can have 80% of the utility of an SUV with all the performance of your favorite car in a wagon.

Maybe that's why I own 2.
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Dhillaz 2.0
05/20/09

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I thought VXR grilles were supposed to be different to stock...and body-coloured.

Penny pinching in these hard times.
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PowerTryp, Starless wonder.
05/20/09

@Dhillaz: How do you post pics?
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Mobius
05/20/09

@PowerTryp:

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replace > with <

Cheers!

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Tier 5 royal, the Manic King
05/20/09

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I repeat my prediction here: US buyer will have this car if Fiat gets GM Europe. Fiat will badge it as Chrysler/Dodge and sell it in US.

And Leeeena made yesterday very nice job using mad skillz:

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Motor_Yakuza
05/20/09

@Manic King of Corinthia: That dodge grill makes it ugly.
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Mobius
05/20/09

@Motor_Yakuza: But it's still much nicer than many cars on sale in the US right now. Especially Chryslers.
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Maxichamp
05/20/09

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I'd rather buy a Pontiac G8 GT wagon based on the Holden...

Oh wait, I can't. Pontiac no longer exists.
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scroggzilla raids again
05/20/09

@Maxichamp: Who knows, maybe GM will sell Holden to Fiat too?
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OldeEnglishD
05/20/09

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I would Dragon that Wagon...
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scroggzilla raids again
05/20/09

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When Fiat buys Opel/Vauxhall and Chrysler, you'll find it at your local Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep dealership. The New Dodge....kinda like the old Saturn.
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engineerd
05/20/09

@SCROGGS!!: The more things change, the more things stay the same.
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Maymar
05/20/09

In reply to Vauxhall Insignia Sport Tourer VXR: A Spectacular 320 HP Wagon You Can't Have
I don't blame GM, I blame everyone who bought an Equinox over a Malibu Maxx, a Vue over an LW, a Tahoe/Suburban instead of a Caprice/Roadmaster, etc.

Still, GM can show it's sorry for the public's asshattery by offering the important oily bits (and those seats) on the 9-3
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jduffy13
05/20/09

@Maymar bans bare chassis hoonage:

Do you think people really wanted to buy SUVs? It was an artificial need generated by the automakers to create profits.

You can't blame the car buying public for basically doing what they were told to do. Eventually the backlash came with the current malaise.

Look at Audi, nice cars and still profitable although they'll take a hit this year for sure. Few companies are free from this economic hit.
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Mad_Science
05/20/09

@jduffy13: Do you think people really wanted to buy SUVs?

My family sure-as-hell wanted our Suburban. 4 kids, a boat and lots of snow travel.

It was an artificial need generated by the automakers to create profits.

WTF is an artificial need? It's not like they started un-paving roads or anything.

You can't blame the car buying public for basically doing what they were told to do.

That's exactly who I blame.

Look at Audi, nice cars and still profitable although they'll take a hit this year for sure. Few companies are free from this economic hit.

Non sequitur FTL
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Maymar
05/20/09

@jduffy13: I think America wanted big cars, weren't willing to compromise on the bigness of their cars. After CAFE, SUVs were the easiest way to buy their bigness. And because of the general public's ignorance, or lack of caring, most manufacturers had little reason to keep building wagons.
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Scandinavian Flick
05/20/09

@jduffy13: It is (was?) a self perpetuating problem. People kept buying SUVs because they perceived them as more useful and safer than wagons and less dorky than minivans. Thus, car companies followed the fad, and made more SUVs. The public's misinformation, in addition to the buying frenzy and America's obsession with being on top of the latest and greatest thing pushed the law of supply and demand to the result of creating more and more of these hideous monstrocities we see all over now, this is a really long sentence.

My point is; people buy what they want. Companies build what they perceive the people want.
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FormerlyPreferredCustomer
05/20/09

In reply to Vauxhall Insignia Sport Tourer VXR: A Spectacular 320 HP Wagon You Can't Have
For what it's worth, I would buy one of these immediately. I'm completely serious--if GM wants me to mail them a deposit check to show how serious I am, tell them to post the address.

Maybe I should take this up with Fiat, though, if they are going to end up with Opel. Can I continue to faintly hope that this will make an appearance, perhaps badged as an Alfa Romeo? That'd be sweet.
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Dhillaz 2.0
05/20/09

@FormerlyPreferredCustomer: I assure you...

...you would rather have a real Alfa.
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Mobius
05/20/09

@FormerlyPreferredCustomer: Dear Sir/Madam,

I am James Clark, Sales Manager of Vauxhall UK. We are currently in search of a company representative who would assist us in receiving payment from our customers in America. This offer is absolutely legal and you NOT A SCAM. You would receive payment on our behalf from our various clients which would come in the form of cashiers checks, travelers checks and official checks. You then get the payments deposited/cashed at your bank. You then deduct a commission of 10% of each payment you would be receiving. Alternatively, a Vauxhall Insignia Sport Tourer VXR if the amount is large enough.

If you are interested in this offer, kindly provide us with the below details.

1) Full name

2) Full house address Zip Code

3) Phone numbers

4) Bank account number and sort code

PLEASE NOTE THAT ALL REPLIES SHOULD BE SENT THIS E-MAIL ADDRESS: uwe.vollenvoit@vauxhall.co.uk Thanks for your anticipated action. And we hope to hear back from you.
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Scandinavian Flick
05/20/09

@Dhillaz: Unf... Gimme...
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theeastbaykid
05/01/09

In reply to Opel Insignia SportTourer OPC: An Audi S4 Avant-Fighter
This still ranks below the M5 Touring and Holden Commodore Sportwagon on the wagons-we-wish-we-had list.
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Graverobber
05/01/09

In reply to Opel Insignia SportTourer OPC: An Audi S4 Avant-Fighter
I'd like to get the ABT on the OPC, but I have ADD and so I'm thinking BFD, I'll just MTA and make an RFC PDQ. AOK?
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Syrax
05/01/09

In reply to Opel Insignia SportTourer OPC: An Audi S4 Avant-Fighter
I just don't like that it's 155MPH limited. One of the greatest things in the Vectra OPC was the amazing top speed.
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Joshuman
05/01/09

@Syrax: I'm sure you can find somebody to remove that software.
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Syrax
05/01/09

@joshman 'Stinky' jalopman has his ears on: I wonder if it'll void the warranty
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