Well, with the death of Saturn, I don't think that will effect me much here in 'the colonies'. Or whatever it is them Europeans are calling it these days.
@Blue387: Yup,the Mark 2 Zephyr/Zodiac.
The one in the article is a Mark 3.
I seem to remember that with these z-cars,starting with the Mark 1, Ford introduced the ubiquitous McPherson Strut front suspension to the world.
@r0ver: Wikipedia says it was first used on the Ford Vedette in '49, and the Zepher getting in '51. I'd thought it came in with the Mini, so what do I know.
These Vauxhall Victors were sold in the US through Pontiac dealers in the late '50s and early '60s. Unreliable, rust-prone horrors that the dealers hated. GM gave up on importing Vauxhalls by 1963 in favor of Opel. I once knew a guy who had one of the scarcely-imported 1962 second generation Victors - a wagon (see picture), which must have sold in minuscule numbers.
I've never seen any of these Zephyrs or Zodiacs in the US. Ford at least theoretically imported most of its English range in the '60s, but I don't know whether the Zodiac was one of them. Besides, who in 1963 was going to buy a finny Ford at Galaxie or Mercury prices that wasn't much bigger than a Falcon?
@skaycog misses lost friends: Are you sure that wasn't the first sketch of the DS concept? And then it had to be toned down for production?
Once upon a time, carmakers and the French were mad, mad, people. And they made mad, mad, cars like the DS. Then came along a little Datsun and cars were supposed to work, and joy was no longer in the fabled Jalopland.
I love the way the Zodiac's grille suggests a widened Ford Crest logo, in much the same way that '50s Ford truck taillights suggested a narrowed one.
I also really like the browser-friendly gallery format that Nibbles seems to be allowing again. I can actually see the raindrops on the hood of the Ford!
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I want something better. I want a Singer 1500. When only the best will do.
I love those little thumbnail cartoons in the Vauxhall ad: It has a big nose to better smash unruly boys; contains both a speedometer AND a fuel gauge; the rear window is included, even though they couldn't be bothered to build the middle of the back seat.
But I would totally rock that Daimler, if it didn't have a slushbox. Why, it's practically the practical man's Rolls Royce!
@Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: What of contrast of expectations. Think of what US luxury car ads were like in the late '50s - prose consisting of breathless flights of ecstatic fancy, glorious full color, elegant women in gowns and fur, grand scenery or mountains of drapes and chandeliers. Now look at this dull, dry Daimler ad - it gives this admittedly nice car all the sex appeal and charisma of an adding machine.
'It efficiently changes gear, up or down, always at the right time, and always more quickly, more smoothly, than one could do it oneself'.
They were saying that even before my parents were born. Valentino Balboni put it well when he said 'You have to become one piece only.' With a manual transmission, you are an integral piece of the machine, stirring coals deep in the heart of the fire, while computer controls have very little need of you being there, and would eliminate you entirely if they could. Silicon transistors do not require and do not respond to any change of force or delicacy, reason or subtlety; they are creatures of absolutes. And while their absolutes and boundaries have been made smaller, they have become far greater in number, their scope more expansive, their control more complete, your input less relevant. You are placed ever further from the nerve center of the machine, replaced by digital senses. The tide has turned: destroyers of machinery gave Luddites their name, but now it is the machines, electrified and calculating, that destroy the human.
@Murilee Martin: I'm staring at a picture I took of UDmans Corvair that's about to be turned into a stencil. I could draw or paint in a suitable background to create a similar style. I'll get right on it.
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09/10/09
Unless they bring the Voxhels here. I think I could forgive that.
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I was hoping that might help Scalifornia's economy.
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It's in the link, if you actually bothered to click the thing.
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Not really so much of a question as an excuse for a lame pun.
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And no, 'Murika is not an acceptable answer
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Hello, GM...anyone home? Didn't think so.
I'd even consider it in the CTS-V. Erk, I almost typed 'Catera'. No lie.
Bad fingers...bad, bad fingers!
Still, I want some supercharger whine. Being it's from Down Under, there should be a red, gearshift-mounted 'on/off' knob.
Heh, heh...he said "knob"...heh, heh, heh, heh, heheheheheheh.
Cornholio!!
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The one in the article is a Mark 3.
I seem to remember that with these z-cars,starting with the Mark 1, Ford introduced the ubiquitous McPherson Strut front suspension to the world.
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These Vauxhall Victors were sold in the US through Pontiac dealers in the late '50s and early '60s. Unreliable, rust-prone horrors that the dealers hated. GM gave up on importing Vauxhalls by 1963 in favor of Opel. I once knew a guy who had one of the scarcely-imported 1962 second generation Victors - a wagon (see picture), which must have sold in minuscule numbers.
I've never seen any of these Zephyrs or Zodiacs in the US. Ford at least theoretically imported most of its English range in the '60s, but I don't know whether the Zodiac was one of them. Besides, who in 1963 was going to buy a finny Ford at Galaxie or Mercury prices that wasn't much bigger than a Falcon?
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That ford Zodiac has a transplanted grill, or at least the Ford of Europe designers liked the grill on the 1961 Dodge Polara....
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I've always liked the distinctive look of the Citroen. There's no mistaking it for any other make of car. I think this is an 'interesting' Citroen ad.
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Once upon a time, carmakers and the French were mad, mad, people. And they made mad, mad, cars like the DS. Then came along a little Datsun and cars were supposed to work, and joy was no longer in the fabled Jalopland.
08/10/09
Someone told me that the French are still mad, mad people.
08/09/09
I also really like the browser-friendly gallery format that Nibbles seems to be allowing again. I can actually see the raindrops on the hood of the Ford!
08/09/09
I love those little thumbnail cartoons in the Vauxhall ad: It has a big nose to better smash unruly boys; contains both a speedometer AND a fuel gauge; the rear window is included, even though they couldn't be bothered to build the middle of the back seat.
But I would totally rock that Daimler, if it didn't have a slushbox. Why, it's practically the practical man's Rolls Royce!
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They were saying that even before my parents were born. Valentino Balboni put it well when he said 'You have to become one piece only.' With a manual transmission, you are an integral piece of the machine, stirring coals deep in the heart of the fire, while computer controls have very little need of you being there, and would eliminate you entirely if they could. Silicon transistors do not require and do not respond to any change of force or delicacy, reason or subtlety; they are creatures of absolutes. And while their absolutes and boundaries have been made smaller, they have become far greater in number, their scope more expansive, their control more complete, your input less relevant. You are placed ever further from the nerve center of the machine, replaced by digital senses. The tide has turned: destroyers of machinery gave Luddites their name, but now it is the machines, electrified and calculating, that destroy the human.
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Not sure it's technically post-war, but have to have a Bently
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@Murilee Martin: There is one with the guy running from a shiny side up Gremlin, but I agree with your sentiment.
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