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    Mustang RTR-C: First Live Shot In The Expensive Carbon Fiber Flesh

    Mustang RTR: An RTR-C Without The Carbon Fiber, Insane Price

    Mustang RTR-C: A $135,000 Carbon Fiber Super-'Stang

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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/03/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR-C: First Live Shot In The Expensive Carbon Fiber Flesh
    Hmmm...I bet grocery cart dings are expensive. #fordmustang
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/03/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR-C: First Live Shot In The Expensive Carbon Fiber Flesh
    I said it yesterday: big whoop. A big price tag isn't enough to justify me giving a rat's ass.

    Okay, carbon fiber body. So? I got a steel body on my truck. It keeps the wind from blowing up my shorts at speed, and prevents passersby from ogling the hot engine pr0n under the hood. I would think that the idea behind carbon fiber is weight reduction, but I'm not hearing anything about it.

    You want to draw me in? Whip up an ultralight Atom fighter, using the same engine and tranny. Carbon fiber for the minimalist chassis, if necessary. This thing is just silly. It's pretty and all, and the black wheels are frankly compelling, but the rest of the whole concept is just goofy, a "look at what I can do" kind of project. As a marketing statement, I don't hate it. As a product, it's answering a question nobody is going to ask. #fordmustang
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    Image of Ryan Cooles Ryan Cooles
    11/03/09

    @Elhigh: Arent all concept vehicles built with a "look what I/we can do" type of mentality #fordmustang
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/04/09

    @Ryan Cooles: Yeah...yeah. (notice, no commas in the ellipsis) That's pretty much the entire point Gittin is making, that his operation can work the carbon fiber magic well enough to wrangle an entire Mustang body. So he really is doing a concept car from that perspective, as an example of what he can do.

    I'm remembering the old Firebird concepts, the Ford Nucleon, the Citation IV. These were pitched as thought experiments - "we've built these things and we're playing with some ideas, looking at where this vehicular paradigm fits in with how people travel and work." The Firebird was pretty much a bust - it was a jet plane sans wings. The Nucleon too - Atomic Age enthusiasm cut radically short by flinty-eyed G-men with geiger counters. That and any Nucleon customer would birth three-headed babies, but that's neither here nor there. The Citation IV was a much more realistic idea; park a GenIII Prius next to one and you won't see a lot of difference. (Thanks for dropping that ball 20 years ago, GM!)

    But is Gittin's CF Mustang a concept - an engineering and marketing device - or a sample? If it's a sample, it seems just silly. #fordmustang
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    11/03/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR-C: First Live Shot In The Expensive Carbon Fiber Flesh
    Hey Wert, how long will you be at SEMA? I'll be there towards the end of the week. #fordmustang
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    Image of vgittinjr vgittinjr
    11/03/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR-C: A $135,000 Carbon Fiber Super-'Stang
    Thanks for the comments everyone. I just wanted to clarify a few things and answer a few questions. I saw on here.

    This car is insanely priced because it is insanely expensive to build. The profit at the 135k is minimal. I will send a full spec sheet out in the near future and I think everyone will understand I went a bit overboard with the quality of the build especially the parts list. I wanted the car to be Elite and outrageous, it was not built to sell however the craftmanship is just to incredible not to at least offer a few.While it was built to be one of the most insane street cars out there the car was not built to be the most insane performing vehicle on the road, however it should run with some pretty serious cars out there esspecially if you dial in the suspension to its potential.

    Absolutely there is other cars that would handle better much cheaper. This is not some get rich scheme, I did this because it is something I have wanted to do for a long time and I wanted to do something new and different which is what Mustang RTR is.

    The car weighs 3355 wet. We dropped about 400lbs + prior to adding super charger, intercooler, oversize radiator, Huge brakes etc..

    Thanks again for the comments, hopefully as more details are released everyone will "get it" #mustang
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    Image of pinkshinyalan is kind of brown pinkshinyalan is kind of brown
    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR: An RTR-C Without The Carbon Fiber, Insane Price
    Only 9 ponies from a K&N intake and some fancy exhaust? That sounds conservative. A V8 mustang makes 315 hp; a 9 hp bump is less than 3%.

    Is Ford's stock intake and exhaust just that good, or is the 9 hp number wrong? #mustang
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    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    11/03/09

    @pinkshinyalan: I think it's that good. The intake on the 2010 models is the Ford Racing Performance Products air intake previously only available on the Bullitt and frequently purchased as an aftermarket replacement itself for 2009 and older cars (tho the C&L or the JLT intake in use with the SCT tuner seem to be the preferred combo meal). The stock exhaust is pretty free flowing, and most only replace it for the sound; hp gains from changing the exhaust is like three horsepower. But sound matters too ;) #mustang
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    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR: An RTR-C Without The Carbon Fiber, Insane Price
    When are they bringing out the RTR-R with complimentary parrot? #mustang
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    bmoreDLJ promoted this comment PowerTryp, Starless wonder. was starred PowerTryp, Starless wonder. was unstarred
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    11/02/09

    @PowerTryp forever Minardi: For the little bit o' Captain in all of us? #mustang
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    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR: An RTR-C Without The Carbon Fiber, Insane Price
    Can you drift hard without stickers? #mustang
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    11/02/09

    @PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287:
    Alright, now see this? This is a four-way road, okay? And dead in the center is a crisp, new, hundred dollar bill. Now, at the end of each of these streets are four vehicles, okay? You following?

    Good. Over here, we have a non-stickered, dealer installed, with factory warranty intact Mustang drifter. Down here, we have a stickered to all hell poorly accessorized Asian import drifter. Over here, we got Santa’s sleigh, and up here the Mach5. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first?

    This is a serious exercise. It's like an SAT question. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first the non-stickered drifter, the stickered drifter, Santa’s sleigh, or the Mach5? #mustang
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    eggwich del fiero promoted this comment PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 was starred PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 was unstarred
    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    11/03/09

    @PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287: trick question, there are no bills bigger than twenties. Right? #mustang
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR: An RTR-C Without The Carbon Fiber, Insane Price
    Mostly useful performance enhancements, so I can't hate on it too much. #mustang
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    11/02/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Did they add irs to the 2010? Cause that should be higher on the list. #mustang
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    11/02/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Yes, there are certainly worse (and less cost-effective) upgrades to be had. You know, like adding carbon fiber parts to a car that wasn't designed around carbon fiber structural bits. Fiberglass is cheaper and lighter, but less bling, I guess. #mustang
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    Image of KNaudi KNaudi
    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR-C: A $135,000 Carbon Fiber Super-'Stang
    the mustang has larger problems to address before its weight. #mustang
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/02/09

    @KNaudi: Drive a brand new one and then say that. #mustang
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    Image of KNaudi KNaudi
    11/03/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: I have and I'm still saying it.
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    Image of stevecmh stevecmh
    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR: An RTR-C Without The Carbon Fiber, Insane Price
    kinda looks like the "Car of Tomorrow" Chin spoiler ... not a good thing #mustang
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    Image of PowerTryp, Starless wonder. PowerTryp, Starless wonder.
    11/02/09

    @stevecmh: Front splitters are a functional thing almost exclusively so if it happens to look like a racecar (even if it is NASCAR) then it's doing its job. #mustang
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    mr_dude promoted this comment PowerTryp, Starless wonder. was starred PowerTryp, Starless wonder. was unstarred
    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    11/02/09

    @PowerTryp forever Minardi: So then if I put a bunch of stickers on my car... #mustang
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    Image of PowerTryp, Starless wonder. PowerTryp, Starless wonder.
    11/02/09

    @mr_dude: Only if they are for performance parts, your car is an Impala, Fuzion, Avenger or Camry and you're as drunk as the average NASCAR fan. #mustang
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    Image of Fej - it's not good, it's extreme good. Fej - it's not good, it's extreme good.
    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR: An RTR-C Without The Carbon Fiber, Insane Price

    I think I'd rather spend the money on this RTR #mustang
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    lilwillie promoted this comment Fej - it's not good, it's extreme good. was starred Fej - it's not good, it's extreme good. was unstarred
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    11/02/09

    @Fej - it's not good, it's extreme good.:

    Bonus, good one. #mustang
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    Image of GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls
    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR-C: A $135,000 Carbon Fiber Super-'Stang
    Given that carbon fiber looks like snakeskin, they should have used the "Cobra" name on this.

    Given the insane pricetag, they should have used "Shelby" name on this.

    Given that those two names are already used, they should have dipped into the "special edition name bowl" on this.

    Given they've done that about two dozen times and the bowl's a little empty, may I humbly submit my Mustang Boggle name:

    The "Shelby Cobra Gittin' Metamucil" Mustang. #mustang
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    Image of Nick Nick
    11/02/09

    @GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls: oh sh!t #mustang
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    Image of AllBoxedUp AllBoxedUp
    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR-C: A $135,000 Carbon Fiber Super-'Stang
    well, it's ok I guess.... though I'd rather have 1000HP: [www.timesonline.co.uk] #mustang
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    Image of grzydj grzydj
    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR-C: A $135,000 Carbon Fiber Super-'Stang
    Can't call it a Rustang anymore if carbon fiber doesn't rust.

    BMW is fully committed to making their pigs more svelte by investing a lot of money into carbon fiber research, in an effort to make it cost effective to use in all production vehicles. Read the news about it on autoblog.com #mustang
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    vwminispeedster, pronounded Si-trow-in promoted this comment grzydj was starred grzydj was unstarred
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    11/02/09

    @grzydj: The bonding of metal to the carbon fiber could still corrode. So I guess this would make it a, "Eff you and the horse you corrode in on." #mustang
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    Image of IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE!
    11/02/09

    In reply to Mustang RTR-C: A $135,000 Carbon Fiber Super-'Stang
    So... this one can turn?

    I knew it would be an incredible feat of engineering to make a pusstang handle well, but even I thought it could be done for less than $100k worth of "lightness"... #mustang
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