Nice Price... I'd buy it, enjoy/endure the simultaneous motoring pleasure/putting up with it for a year, and then probably dump 'er like some kind of high-maintenance girlfriend who required one too many shopping sprees on Rodeo Drive.
Gawd, what a sexy car. If I had 22 grand to piss away on a sports car I'd be tempted. I don't care if the interior looks like an old International 3/4 ton, that's not the point. Who cares if a stripper is impressed with the car or not, they're just as high maintenance and problematic.
A Jag E type is this kind of sexy, but costs twice as much. Either an E type or this Lambo will pay for your mechanic's kid to go to college or challenge your own mechanical skills. I'd opt for the latter, I doubt there's anything on this car that would mystify me. Owning this car and being personally responsible for it running strong would be a blast.
@CptSevere: ++ for the most Jalop of comments here. Unfortunately, it is sourcing and paying for parts that would probably present the greatest challenge.
@Alfisted: Yes... this (the parts thing) is exactly what has prevented me from buying something like this over the last year or so - it's in a very reasonable price range (as are quite a few classic exotics recently!), but I would really hate to have my prized Italian motoring device become a driveway queen, up on blocks, seals drying out, fluids coagulating, simply because I can't find a source for some odd bearing that went out three months ago.
I know, I have a practical, pragmatic side.... it's my hoonpotential downfall (sigh).
Gorgeous, but too intermittently functional. Replace everything that moves with Toyota parts, and It might be worth the ten gs may paid for one. Sure, that may miss the point, but if you want a daily driver that looks like this, you want it to work without complaint. A new Camry motor in this much lighter car will hit 140 easily.
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Did you ever see what I called the "Chibli" (Ghibli w/Chevy 350 in it... IIRC, it was a '69 in minty-fresh condition) that I posted a link to on a thread a few weeks back? Same kind of thing... it misses the point. That car was in the $38-$39k range... not bad, really; but for me personally, I wouldn't want it... it might be a major hooner, or at least a REALLY reliable Grand Tourer, but it's NOT A MASERATI if it doesn't have the engine.
Double-edged sword... you take the good with the bad, and if you're ANY kind of a purist, and can appreciate the real & true efforts that went into the car at the time, then you have to be willing to suck it up & deal... otherwise, no Camry or Chevy engine swapout will really give you the pure experience.
Newsflash: girls do not like old sports cars -- this will not get you laid. You'll just look like a cheapskate and if you find one dumb enough to not notice, the "icky" interior will blow the deal.
What's with that steering wheel? Looks like it is bolted to the dash like its an 80's era video game!
@peakay: Girls don't care for old sports cars - but the kind that'll go down on you because of what you drive will be impressed by the Lamborghini logo - since this won't likely run frequently anyways, the key is the important part of the equation (you can still flash that). Doesn't mean those are the right kind of girl though.
It's a tragedy that while this is easily the best style year for the Urraco, the rest of the car is crap. If you want a hell project that demands respect, pull a Bob Wallace and unite this chassis with a P300 motor and a few suspension modifications.
Or, more realistically, find a nice P300 and somehow lose the rubber bumpers.
For something this unique and collectible, not to mention unique-looking, you're going to be hard-pressed to find a better price. Even the most hardhearted Jalop, if not swayed by the traditionally pancake-esque Lambo styling, will surely be swayed by the delightfully wonky handbuilt interior. I know I was.
@Flagrant German Fanboy: Most people will look at it and think it might be a kit car, when they see the inside, they will be sure it is a kit car. I think they let the tractor interior designers do the car interiors too.
@P161911: Haha yeah, not until recently have I noticed the exotic interiors (Ferrari / Lambo) looking more polished. Even as recently as '02, everything under the dashboard looked pretty angular and kit-like on those cars.
Would it get me laid? Yes, it would. Would I have to sell my left testicle to get it? Yes, I would. Would I be able to "seal the deal" if I did this? No, I would not. Damned vicious circles!!!!!!!!!!
Well the only Ferrari that you can get for anywhere close to this money is a 308GT4 and the Urraco looks much better than a GT4. Both are mid-engined V-8 2+2s. Of course the GT4 shares most of the mechanicals of the later 308s so parts are at least available at gold plated prices. I'm sure that any Ferrari dealer would be happy to service a 308GT4 , service cost should work out to under $5/mile. I doubt that Audi even admits that anything before the Diablo exists. If you want parts for the Urraco you will have to convince someone that doesn't speak English to go look through dirty and dusty boxes or pull your part off the rusty hulk of a Urraco out behind his shed, so that he can charge you even more than the Ferrari dealer would for 308 parts. The Lambo parts might or might not fit, these things were hand made.
As other have said this falls into the very tempting exotic category. But when to choice comes down to a nice used Z06 that you can drive everyday or a 180HP fragile, high maintenance exotic, reality sets in and you get the Vette.
@P161911: Here's a Z06 in my neck of the woods for $25K. I'll probably have that in my beater before it's over. But where's the fun in buying something that works?
@mytdawg: Z06 as a nice car to drive everyday, If I want an odd ball semi-exotic project with nearly impossible to find parts to dump cash into, I can find one for 1/10th the starting price of this Lambo. Say a Lotus Elite: [atlanta.craigslist.org]
The engineerd Fair Market Value (eFMV patent pending) computer would give this a Nice Price vote. One other '72 Uracco was found in a quick search with an asking price of almost $30,000. With $5,000 added for rarity, and another $3,000 added for low miles and general awesomeness ($1,500 each) the fair market value would be $38,000.
I would ask, though, that if you are going to drop $22,500 on a Urraco that you consider a few things:
1. As Graverobber pointed out, you will get some tail. Are you married? This car is not be the one for you. Buy something less attractive, like one of Bartles & James Bentleys or even an '84 Audi 5000 Turbo to cruise around in without bringing out the green-eyed monster in your mate.
2. If you are single, prepare to be single for a long time. Make sure you aren't the marrying type or that you don't plan on getting married any time soon. A Lambo is not for the suburbanite husband. No, it's for the player. Players don't get married. They live their life like 50 Cent in P.I.M.P. If you do buy this then get hitched you will have every married guy within a 500 mile radius of you knocking on your door to slap you upside the head. We're counting on you, Junior. Don't screw this up.
3. Another reason to stay single while owning this car is so you can afford repairs and upkeep. Wives don't take too kindly to you spending more on "mere objects" than on her (her words, not mine). Plus, unless you are independently wealthy or heading up an SEC-ignored Ponzi scheme, you won't be able to afford both. The day you ask a girl to marry you, you might as well put a For Sale sign on the car.
@engineerd: Great summary, but you only forgot one thing: If you are single and you buy this, then happen to get a girl as a result, then get married to said girl at some point, then be prepared to sell said car almost immediately.
This goes hand-in-hand with the following relationship rule: Girls want to DATE guys that are in a band - but they don't want to be MARRIED to guys that are in a band. Therefore if you're in a band, and you meet a girl as a result of said band, and then subsequently married her, it therefore follows that she will then insist that you quit being a musician.
Same rule applies for exotic car ownership.
I think where the folks on Top Gear went wrong (intentionally) is that they bought the cars and tried to drive them right away without any attempt to diagnose or prevent problems. I'm willing to say "nice price" on this one with the caveat that before taking it to the track or driving it to a strip club, I'd rewire the whole thing and pop in a crate motor - even a Chevy small block would have the same power as this thing had originally. Sure, that might be taking the heart out of the car and would effectively make it a big kit car, but it would also eliminate 90% of the potential problems. And I'd keep the original engine so that come resale time, I'd be able to offer it as original.
you drop crates into miatas and pintos and stuff that sucks on every level
a urraco was so win even now. if you buy this you will keep the original engine. and you will accept any and all problems it will give you. and you sir, will like it.
@vdiddy210: my real problem is that I like to drive cars, not just own them. I've had some older Italian cars and I have to say the engines are just not good. They require way too much attention and are likely to break down on a regular basis no matter how much work you put in to them in the first place. I'd rather have a solid, well built, powerful American motor any day. And the nice thing about doing that with a classic sports car is that most of the rest of the car is already built for that - you put a 400hp motor in a Miata and you'll have to replace everything from the engine bay to the back wheels, costing tens of thousands of dollars, and at the end of the day you'd still have a Miata.
Nope. Give me this Lambo and an extra $5k for a motor and I'd be using this as a daily driver.
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A Jag E type is this kind of sexy, but costs twice as much. Either an E type or this Lambo will pay for your mechanic's kid to go to college or challenge your own mechanical skills. I'd opt for the latter, I doubt there's anything on this car that would mystify me. Owning this car and being personally responsible for it running strong would be a blast.
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I know, I have a practical, pragmatic side.... it's my hoonpotential downfall (sigh).
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Did you ever see what I called the "Chibli" (Ghibli w/Chevy 350 in it... IIRC, it was a '69 in minty-fresh condition) that I posted a link to on a thread a few weeks back? Same kind of thing... it misses the point. That car was in the $38-$39k range... not bad, really; but for me personally, I wouldn't want it... it might be a major hooner, or at least a REALLY reliable Grand Tourer, but it's NOT A MASERATI if it doesn't have the engine.
Double-edged sword... you take the good with the bad, and if you're ANY kind of a purist, and can appreciate the real & true efforts that went into the car at the time, then you have to be willing to suck it up & deal... otherwise, no Camry or Chevy engine swapout will really give you the pure experience.
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What's with that steering wheel? Looks like it is bolted to the dash like its an 80's era video game!
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@KillerBRacing: You, sir, are a hero.
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Or, more realistically, find a nice P300 and somehow lose the rubber bumpers.
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As other have said this falls into the very tempting exotic category. But when to choice comes down to a nice used Z06 that you can drive everyday or a 180HP fragile, high maintenance exotic, reality sets in and you get the Vette.
I'd say this Lambo is nice price.
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I would ask, though, that if you are going to drop $22,500 on a Urraco that you consider a few things:
1. As Graverobber pointed out, you will get some tail. Are you married? This car is not be the one for you. Buy something less attractive, like one of Bartles & James Bentleys or even an '84 Audi 5000 Turbo to cruise around in without bringing out the green-eyed monster in your mate.
2. If you are single, prepare to be single for a long time. Make sure you aren't the marrying type or that you don't plan on getting married any time soon. A Lambo is not for the suburbanite husband. No, it's for the player. Players don't get married. They live their life like 50 Cent in P.I.M.P. If you do buy this then get hitched you will have every married guy within a 500 mile radius of you knocking on your door to slap you upside the head. We're counting on you, Junior. Don't screw this up.
3. Another reason to stay single while owning this car is so you can afford repairs and upkeep. Wives don't take too kindly to you spending more on "mere objects" than on her (her words, not mine). Plus, unless you are independently wealthy or heading up an SEC-ignored Ponzi scheme, you won't be able to afford both. The day you ask a girl to marry you, you might as well put a For Sale sign on the car.
Just some advice from a fellow Jalop.
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This goes hand-in-hand with the following relationship rule: Girls want to DATE guys that are in a band - but they don't want to be MARRIED to guys that are in a band. Therefore if you're in a band, and you meet a girl as a result of said band, and then subsequently married her, it therefore follows that she will then insist that you quit being a musician.
Same rule applies for exotic car ownership.
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you drop crates into miatas and pintos and stuff that sucks on every level
a urraco was so win even now. if you buy this you will keep the original engine. and you will accept any and all problems it will give you. and you sir, will like it.
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Nope. Give me this Lambo and an extra $5k for a motor and I'd be using this as a daily driver.