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bmoreDLJ
11/03/09

In reply to Philly Transit Strike Starts After World Series Leaves
The regional rail is still running (albeit with long delays and other provisos,) as are the suburban bus lines.

I don't know much about the strike, despite living here, but frankly, with unemployment and demand for jobs so high, I wouldn't feel too bad if SEPTA just hired new employees to replace the ones who stopped working.

I will say that in my experience living here for two years now, SEPTA officials on the subway, bus, and rail have always been courteous and helpful at best and tolerably surly at worst.

But this simply isn't a good time for anyone to strike. Jobs are too precious to treat so cavalierly, or cobaltly, or even cruzely.
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MaWeiTao
11/03/09

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These damn unions. They already have excessively light workloads and raises on a regular basis. They seem to always strike because they're not getting as much money as they'd like.

In the city where I live the administration tried to get the teachers union to agree to budget cuts. What they managed to agree on was no pay increase for a year and then generous increases every 6 months for the following 2 years. Isn't that nice? And the head of the of the Board of Education earns well over $200k a year and claims she needs her raise to cover cost of living increases.

When was the last time a union actually went on strike because of truly abusive practices by the employer? 1915? Today unions are their own form of abusive big business. #unions
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lilwillie
11/03/09

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52K on average a year. That is a pretty good average for a wage. Not sure if the benny's are in that also but I'd have to think yes. Still. Good wage.

Striking during negotiations always seems like a last straw attempt. This will make national news and be shoved down our throats by the MSM after today's elections.

Compared to what Reagan did back in the day, I wonder what BHO's reaction will be? #unions
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drewdrawshashtags
11/03/09

@lilwillie: But these are local unions, not national, so BHO's got nothing to do with it.

As a regularish SEPTA rider though, I can assure you that they are overpaid, underworked and horrible people in general. #unions
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jodark
11/03/09

@drewdrawshashtags: Unions are unions. They all band together to extort more for less. #unions
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lilwillie
11/03/09

@drewdrawshashtags:

I wouldn't put it past BHO to put his two cents on the matter in. #unions
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drewdrawshashtags
11/04/09

@jodark: Oh, don't worry, if you live in Philly, and don't belong to one, you hate the unions. I'm just saying that it's not a national problem, just a relatively small (albeit incredibly annoying) local one, and I don't see Obama going near it. This is the third time these dipshits have paralyzed Philly in the last 15 years, but thankfully local support for their "cause" (read: extortion) is at an all-time low. #unions
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pmalik
11/03/09

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Better article here:
[www.msnbc.msn.com]

They want 4% annual raise (22% over 5 years), the offer was 11.5% over 5 years. Philly needs to pull a Reagan and can all of them.
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Alfisted
11/03/09

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'taint no thing. If you've been following The Series, you know that Philly isn't going anywhere anyway. #unions
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VeeArrrSix
11/03/09

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Does going on strike actually do anything besides making the general populace hate you? It's not like you can't hold a news conference and say you are pissed off, with out pissing off an entire city. #unions
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drewdrawshashtags
11/03/09

@VeeArrrSix: By announcing the strike, today was officially declared "punch a dickhead union worker in the face day" in Philly.

I plan on participating if I can find any of the weasels. #unions
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Flathead Smith
11/03/09

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Striking in down economy like this is damned arrogant, there are plenty of unemployed folks who would love to have one of those transit jobs right now, I say fire them all, and let people who want to work have them. #unions
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PowerTryp, Starless wonder.
11/03/09

@Flathead Smith: That verywell might happen, it wouldn't be all that hard to keep the strike going, hire on a whole workforce and then end the strike with what ever consessions necessary and then fire them when they get back for not showing up for work for the past few weeks or how ever long they prolong the strike.

It would kill the union and set a precident for other citys.

They are screwing with the Gov't and even at municipal levels it's near impossible to win against government. #unions
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friendlynerd
11/03/09

@Flathead Smith: oh you should see the contract terms they turned down. it's enough to make any working person sick with envy. #unions
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Flathead Smith
11/03/09

@PowerTryp forever Minardi: I'll bet the city will cave in to just about every union demand. Cities don’t care if they have to raise cost, they’ll just pass it along to those fare paying customer.
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pj134
11/03/09

@Flathead Smith: Philly is already more than a billion in the hole though. I'd get them all to come to a negotation, All of them or no negotiations, then when they're about to sign give Nesbit or whats his name the signal for the swat teams to take em all out. I hate overpriveleged union workers. Coal miners can strike, steel workers can strike and physicla laborers can strike. Fucking bus drivers? NO. #unions
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FTGDWolverineEdition'09
11/03/09

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He is happy. #unions
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Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
11/03/09

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Just jog to work. Have your trainer ride behind you on a bike. Take the stairs. Pump your fists. Repeat. #unions
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DoctorNine's D9 Cat
05/21/09

In reply to GM, UAW And Treasury Department Reach Agreement
In other news, pundits on both sides of the aisle claimed victory for both investors and organized labor. Lawmakers congratulated themselves on salvaging the automotive manufacturing sector, by redefining 'manufacturing' as 'manufacturing financing by re-purposing tax revenues'. Elon Musk was nowhere to be seen. But savvy investors with a sharp eye noticed a few determined rats leaving one sinking ship, and swimming to another emblazoned with the capitol letter "T".
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Graverobber
05/21/09

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So it's decided; we'll all have the egg salad for lunch, except for the UAW guy, who wants the pimento loaf. And after lunch, we'll get started on the labor negotiations. Has anyone seen my pencil? It was a number 2.
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Cognitive Friction
05/21/09

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Exact details are being withheld until the changes are presented to and voted on by the UAW's GM members.

That presentation should come with a free tube of Astroglide
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.357
05/21/09

In reply to GM, UAW And Treasury Department Reach Agreement
If only Pontiac was still around to see it happen...
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Flathead Smith
05/21/09

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I think the UAW needs to strike while the iron is hot. They need to choke the Goose until it releases that last golden egg in its death convulsions.
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jodark
05/21/09

@Flathead Smith: You mean besides getting more money to the dollar than Secured Creditors of GM? Yeah, we pretty much need to make sure that the entire case history of bankruptcy law be completely shredded, incinerated and have the ashes pissed on. Wouldn't want to leave anything left intact, otherwise people who own companies might think they have a right to their property or something...
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DoctorNine's D9 Cat
05/21/09

@jodark: Hmm... you neglected one of the reading assignments... Marx... means of production... living wage... fap, fap, fap....
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OldeEnglishD
05/21/09

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So you're telling me there's a chance!
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