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    2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive

    2010 Lincoln MKT: Crossover For The Super-Segmented Masses

    Automotive News: Ford EcoBoost V6 To Cost About $700, Appearing On Flex, MKS Next Year

    2010 Ford Taurus SHO Renderings Updated

    Ford Is Readying A Trio Of Twin-Turbo Engines

    SHO Me The Twin Force, Baby! Rumors Of Performance Taurus Tease The Interwebs

    Detroit Auto Show: Ford Goes Butch; The Interceptor Sedan Concept!!
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    05/15/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    Ugh. Looks like an Audi Q7 with sciatica. Yes to EcoBoost. No to flabby luxury pastiche.
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    Image of grzydj grzydj
    05/15/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    I thought you guys hated crossovers like this and the Lexus so badly.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    05/15/09

    @grzydj: Did you read the post?


    The thing about the Flex/MKT platform is that it's exactly at the dividing line of wagon and crossover, which makes it hard to decide what to think about it. We declared it a wagon so we don't have to be ashamed of liking the powertrain.

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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    05/15/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    Wherever it goes, it will be followed by Greenpeacers heroically determined to shove it back into the ocean.
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    Image of TRLennon TRLennon
    05/15/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    I will be looking this over real seriously when I am next in the market for a new daily driver (next year). I would look at a Flex but that's the one that I consider hideous looking.


    Sure I would prefer a Taurus SHO wagon but we all know that ain't gonna happen.


    As an ex-Audi owner I thought they had lost their mind a few years ago with the new huge fish snoot. Now it kind of works for me (it's the LED's I now hate). This "Signature" Lincoln nose is no worse than that (or BMW kidny's IMO).


    Can't bitch about "plain vanilla" (Toyota) all the time then criticize Lincoln just because it isn't your favorite flavor.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/15/09

    @TRLennon: Plain vanilla is great (case in point, Toyotas pre-2002-ish). New Toyotas are basically French vanilla: it's when they add a tiny bit of flavor to it that it goes all wrong.
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    05/15/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    They need to make the body shorter and wider if they want to use the knock-off Interceptor concept grille style. It is hideously disproportioned, despite its advertised handling competency. While I really like the Flex (hate the vame though) and recommend the AWD Flex variant to anyone looking for family transportation, I don't think that this crossover (yes it is, it's a baked potato on wheels, like they all are) will successfully compete in the luxury wagon market at 55K. I mean, that's Mercedes and Audi mony, and you get faster, better handling cars with more cachet, and better reputations. This is stillborn. I don't think it was well thought out.
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    Image of MagicalTrevor MagicalTrevor
    05/15/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    Is this a preproduction example? The hood looks ajar and the plastic bits don't seem to match up with the steel ones on the outside.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    05/15/09

    @MagicalTrevor: All preproduction. The hood line between the two grille openings is supposed to be like that though.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    05/14/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    Once upon a time, Lincoln was an Ego Boost.
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    05/14/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    I see Jake in that grille. Seriously, a few tweaks and you've got a very cool Jake.


    Maybe it's that subliminabilityness I've heard so much about.

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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    05/14/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    Task: Make Versa uglier

    Teh Jalopz: NOOO! Not possible!

    Lincoln: Watch this
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    05/14/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    That front end reminds me of Balleen.


    [www.flickr.com]


    I hope the EcoBoost makes its way into a car that I'd actually want. +1 for an EcoBoost base Mustang.

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    05/14/09

    @Mad_Science: Make that a Maverick. No frills-cheap-turboed-Mustang-based... car = EXTREME HOONAGE
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    Image of enki enki
    05/14/09

    @Bandido GT - Cabrón Malnacido: I want my EcoBoost AWD Fusion GT. Though, I'd gladly take an EcoBoost Focus GT, preferably in Euro skin and AWD.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    05/15/09

    @enki: You will get part of your wish. There's a single turbo four cylinder EcoBoost showing up in the next Focus. It "debuted" at the Detroit Auto Show in the Lincoln C Concept, 180 HP, 180 lb-ft of torque, a dual clutch 6 speed transmission and 43 MPG (in concept form).
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    05/15/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Seriously? That's f-ing awesome.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    05/15/09

    @Mad_Science: Can't promise those specs, but yes.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    05/15/09

    @Mad_Science: If FoMoCo can Ecoboost a V6 into hi-po territory, could they Ecoboost an I2 into Ford Focus territory? Then we could have ultra-tiny engines like kei cars, sharp performance like Americans irrationally insist on (but almost never use)and hybrid economy without giving up the trunk space to the mighty and terrible Battery Demons.
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    05/14/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    the back end [jalopnik.com] reminds me of star wars [www.fanboy.com]
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    05/14/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    Damn, Jimmy Durante got a smaller nose than this thing.


    The inside looks real nice though. GM are you paying attention.


    Note the twin turbos too.

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    05/14/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Well of course Durante's is smaller---now.
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    Image of iamhoff 2.0 wants a star iamhoff 2.0 wants a star
    05/14/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    Now, if Ford really loved us, they'd offer this motor in a base-body Mustang...no body kit, no spoiler, maybe some black steelies like the bitchin' Camaro, and call it the Mustang LX! Of course they'd have to tweak the 4.6L to include direct injection and other goodies so as to not be overshadowed by a V6, but imagine what a hella bitchin' sleeper that would be!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/14/09

    @Sheik Yerbouti, but you can call me iamhoff: Just give it wide wheels and a more-aerodynamic nose and sell it as the SVO.
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    05/14/09

    @Sheik Yerbouti, but you can call me iamhoff: I don't know if the motor would actually fit in the Mustang, it think its too tall deck height wise
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    05/15/09

    @ContourSVT'sforAll went loco and killed Civic, Accord, Camr...: This thing is tiny, I would be shocked, shocked I tell you if it didn't fit in a fox mustang, something which needs to happen with a quickness.
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    Image of cristiana cristiana
    05/14/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    Wow, that's one ugly vehicle. I have no idea what's up with all of these hideous cars, there is this, the new RL, TSX, the MkS. Hmm, maybe it's just Acura and Lincoln. But, these cars could unseat the Aztek as the king of ugly.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/14/09

    @cristiana: The new Lexus RX is pretty bad, too. It's developed the Chevy Uplander Old Body With Awful Squashed Nose disease.



    That's probably a matter of personal opinion, though. It may not be distinct enough to be horrible, but it's certainly no beauty.


    And this got microwaved too long:



    And this. "Your grille fell down..."


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    Image of FordTuffMcgruff FordTuffMcgruff
    05/14/09

    In reply to 2010 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost: First Drive
    I can't wait to find one of these engines in a wrecked car and swap it into a foxbody mustang.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    05/15/09

    @FordTuffMcgruff: Word. For extra irony, stuff it into an old Capri II if you can find one.
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