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    56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!

    Nice Price Or Crack Pipe: 30,000-Mile 1957 Triumph TR3 For 45 Grand?

    PCH, Faster Pussycat Edition: TR3, MGA, or 356?
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    Seriously, this was riveting video. Just amazing. People, cars, scenery, purpose--just riveting. Why didn't they show us this film in Driver's Ed way back when? It's everything you need to know about cars, including the dangerous bits.
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    Image of SadgunaActaeon SadgunaActaeon
    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    How did everyone miss the Denzel. Austrian built competitor to Porche based on VW chassis.
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    01/20/09

    @SadgunaActaeon: Well I had to leave something for you, now didn't I?......;)
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    Image of Armand Armand
    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    I'm lucky enough to have recently purchased "The Rootes Maestros" by Graham Robson. In this book, Robson (who was on the Rootes rally team in the early '60s, finishing 4th in the '62 Monte Carlo Rally) chronicles the exploits of the Rootes Group's Competitions Department from its formation around 1950 until its demise when Chrysler took over. I highly recommend it to other vintage racing and rally enthusiasts as well as anyone who owns a Rootes Group car.

    According to Robson, the 1958 Alpine was incredibly punishing, with higher required average speeds than earlier rallies. Oh, and most of the roads (including the Stelvio Pass) were still open to normal traffic when the rally cars were flying through. We saw some of the carnage in the film, but even the top finishers had trouble with their cars. Peter Harper and Peter Jopp had brake trouble in their Sunbeam Rapier-- we also saw Jopp forget to leave the handbrake on at one point in the film-- but due to time restrictions, they had to change two brake shoes at four consecutive stops. Later, the overdrive started acting up, so Harper cut holes in the floor so that he could smack the solenoid with the jack handle when he needed to engage the o/d.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    01/19/09

    @Armand Bengle: "And that, little ones, is your bedtime story for tonight. Go dream of the open, unpaved road!"
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    01/20/09

    @Armand Bengle: Good stuff!
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    What's the car at 3:03 in the first video?


    Stunning films. If only we had such footage of pre-war Targa Florio events.

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    01/20/09

    @brandegee: That's the Panhard Dyna Sport. Check the Motorfilms.com link from my earlier post. Their Motorfilms Quarterly series (27 volumes) may have what you seek.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    01/20/09

    @SCROGGZILLA RAIDS AGAIN!!: Nice. Thanks Scroggzilla.
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    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    If you like this (and I know you do), do check out the following.


    Warning - may cause excessive spending
    [www.motorfilms.com]

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    This could supplant the Race Taxi as my YouTube time-waster of choice...
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    Image of Jokermanpaco Jokermanpaco
    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    Now I long for the Speed Channel of old, that would play things like this. Thank you YouTube!
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    Image of racerx racerx
    01/19/09

    @Jokermanpaco: No kidding, I used to love Speedvision and all the old stuff like this that they used to show on it. They even had stuff about old warplane, tanks, and old car movies too. I can attribute Speedvision to significantly enhancing my love of motoring when I was growing up, especially in those pre and early internet days. Now it's just a pathetic NASCAR, Pinks and BarretJackson-a-thon. Weak.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    01/19/09

    @racerx: +10,000
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    ROAD TRIP!


    Tell me again why I'm sitting here, behind a desk, with my car snowed in?

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    Image of ptmeyer84 ptmeyer84
    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    WOW! Great find Scrozilla!

    Ok, I am not very keen on my European iron, so could someone who hates their job make a list of the cars?


    Also, are these roads still open today?


    /noobishness

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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    01/19/09

    @ptmeyer84: a partial list
    Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint
    Alfa Romeo Giulietta Ti
    Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider
    Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sport Zagato
    Ford Zephyr
    Mercedes Benz 300SL
    Austin Healey 3000
    Austin Healey Sprite
    Sunbeam Rapier
    Standard-Triumph 10
    Triumph TR2
    Citroen DS
    Porsche 356
    Volvo PV544
    AC Ace
    Ferrari (type unknown...but I think it was a 250 Europa)
    I also thought I spotted a Panhard.....but no putty tats!
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    01/19/09

    @SCROGGZILLA RAIDS AGAIN!!: Aston Martin DB3
    Jaguar Mk II
    the Ferrari is a 250GT bodied by Boano
    and the Panhard is a Dyna Sport


    The thing which frightens me....I only had to google the frickin' Panhard, and I misidentified the Triumph TR. I think I need help.

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    Image of Armand Armand
    01/19/09

    @SCROGGZILLA RAIDS AGAIN!!: You DO need help, man... how could you misidentify the TR3? You must have been thinking of the TR2 that Maurice Gatsonides used to win a Coupe d'Or (Gold Cup, for winning a Coupe des Alpes in three consecutive rallies).


    Good lord, I'm such a nerd.

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    Image of Fast_Nel Fast_Nel
    01/19/09

    @SCROGGZILLA RAIDS AGAIN!!: Great knowledge man! More info on that magnificent white Alfa @ 0:20 Video #2?
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    01/20/09

    @Fast_Nel: That's the Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sport Zagato.
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    Image of Franzouse Franzouse
    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    I sincerely believe that these videos are the reason Youtube was created. Thank you!
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    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    Normaly I get bored with long Youtube videos, but these could have been longer.
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    Image of BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ
    01/19/09

    In reply to 56 Teams Battle For The 1958 Alpine Cup: Coupe Des Alpes!
    At this point sex was safe and the machines were dangerous.

    What a nice organized hoon.
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    Image of Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing
    01/19/09

    @BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - Why drive when you can ride?:

    Agree completely

    Pre-condom motoring?

    Bareback motoring?
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    Image of layabout layabout
    01/01/09

    In reply to Nice Price Or Crack Pipe: 30,000-Mile 1957 Triumph TR3 For 45 Grand?
    the guy must be on a crack/acid combo.
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    Image of Boosted Lego Wagon Boosted Lego Wagon
    12/31/08

    In reply to Nice Price Or Crack Pipe: 30,000-Mile 1957 Triumph TR3 For 45 Grand?
    Crack pipe. But it's meerschaum.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    12/31/08

    In reply to Nice Price Or Crack Pipe: 30,000-Mile 1957 Triumph TR3 For 45 Grand?
    Pass the pipe, old chap!
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