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Sun Dec 6
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11:46 AM

    In reply to Rear Wheel Drive Can't Save This Starlet From The Crusher
    This right here is the perfect candidate for resurrection as a daily driver.

    Nothing special, ergo, if it gets stolen/a tree falls on it, it spontaneously falls apart, no big deal.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11:45 AM

    In reply to Rear Wheel Drive Can't Save This Starlet From The Crusher
    Great elemental cars. My mom had a Tercel, and a friend has another now. Too bad this one is headed directly back to the elements.
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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    11:37 AM

    In reply to Rear Wheel Drive Can't Save This Starlet From The Crusher
    I worked as a lot boy at a large Toyota dealer in the early 80's when these cars were new. They were crude and simple but a hoot to drive. The RWD Corolla's of the day were also fun to thrash.

    RWD Starlet, Corolla, Celica, Celica Supra, and Cressida. Not to mention the legendary 20R (maybe 22R) in their trucks. Anyone want to know where Toyota has gone wrong? Here is your answer.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    12/02/09

    In reply to 2011 Toyota Sienna: Like A Venza, But With Interior Space
    Needs more supercharged four-banger on its side under the floor driving the rear wheels...ness.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    12/02/09

    In reply to 2011 Toyota Sienna: Like A Venza, But With Interior Space
    I love Toyota's approach to redesigns in the last few years has been "lets make the center section of the car look 100% identical to the old one, while adding chintsy taillights and the most hideous front end possible."

    i.e. Camry, Corolla, this.
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    If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face was starred If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face was unstarred
    Image of MaWeiTao MaWeiTao
    12/02/09

    In reply to 2011 Toyota Sienna: Like A Venza, But With Interior Space
    Why can't US-bound Japanese minivans look as sleek as the Japanese models they're based on? Why do they all have to look like frumpy, bloated wannabe SUVs?

    I see they're going for the Ford and Chrysler approach to forced branding: force the corporate grille onto every vehicle in a way that doesn't suit the car at all. It looks like the car wasn't originally designed for this grille, but management decided the car had to have it.

    And what's with that swipe extending from the center console across the left side of the dashboard? It's extremely distracting; it keeps drawing my eye away from the center console. This looks like one of those awkward design compromises, a clumsy union of high design and cost-cutting.
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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    12/02/09

    In reply to 2011 Toyota Sienna: Like A Venza, But With Interior Space
    Some of it's ok. The front-end treatment is terrible. Needs a different color to get further reaction.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    12/02/09

    In reply to 2011 Toyota Sienna: Like A Venza, But With Interior Space
    If I really want to buy a white van, can I get one of these please?

    225hp; 6sp Manual; 0-60: 7.9s; Top Speed: 143mph.

    Thanks.
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    Image of skaycog skaycog
    12/02/09

    In reply to 2011 Toyota Sienna: Like A Venza, But With Interior Space
    If I had the need for something like this, I'd get a Ford Flex.
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    Image of tekamul tekamul
    12/02/09

    @skaycog was here: If you truly needed one, though, you'd miss the sliding doors.
    After the 23rd time junior railed somebody's convertible with a read door, you eat the depreciation for a stigmatic minivan
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    skaycog was here promoted this comment tekamul was starred tekamul was unstarred
    Image of skaycog skaycog
    12/02/09

    @tekamul: You might be right about the sliding doors, but since there's no junior, I'd still get a Flex.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    12/02/09

    In reply to 2011 Toyota Sienna: Like A Venza, But With Interior Space
    Zip ties: they can fix the floor mats, but they can't fix the ugly.
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    12/02/09

    @pauljones: I don't know, give me enough of them and I think I can make a van that looks better than this thing.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    12/02/09

    In reply to 2011 Toyota Sienna: Like A Venza, But With Interior Space
    Not bad at all. Best revision yet...much more wagony.

    Horrible, horrible grille.
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    Ash78, cube farmer was starred Ash78, cube farmer was unstarred
    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    12/02/09

    In reply to 2011 Toyota Sienna: Like A Venza, But With Interior Space
    Time to slam it to the ground, camber the hell out of some deep dish wheels, slap a Mercedes clip on the front, and hoon the kids to school.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    12/02/09

    @Scandinavian Flick: Read the press release section on the new sportier SE.

    Wes, can you please get yourself a ride in an SE? I'm dying to know what a sporty minivan is like.
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    12/02/09

    @Scandinavian Flick: Done.
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    Image of e30 guy e30 guy
    12/02/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: For those who can't get enough of "unique interior colors and trim."
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    Image of k_oss_mrld k_oss_mrld
    12/02/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: Since everything is relative, the pre-'08 Mazda MPV was pretty sporty... for a minivan. The Mazda5 is relatively sporty for a mini-minivan.
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    snapoversteer 'bout to get told promoted this comment k_oss_mrld was starred k_oss_mrld was unstarred
    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    12/03/09

    @k_oss_mrld: I actually rented a Mazda 5 recently and drove it all over Northern California. It was so far beyond my expectations that I'm now a confirmed fan. If children are ever unfortunate enough to depend on me for transportation, that's top of my list.
     Reply
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    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    12/01/09

    In reply to TIMELINE: Toyota Reacts To Floor Mat Fiery Death Problem
    They also recalled floor mats in 2007 for this same issue, making it amazing that it's still not fixed.
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    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    12/01/09

    In reply to Hyundai Feasts In November, Sales Up 46%
    Woo!
    I got a Gencoupe and I love it - it's exactly what I was looking for, and there was literally no competition within $10,000 of it.
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    Image of Parramore Parramore
    12/01/09

    @fuchikoma: $10k? Are you sure?
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    fuchikoma promoted this comment Parramore was starred Parramore was unstarred
    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    12/01/09

    @Parramore: Well, looking at 2-ish litre rear wheel sport coupes, the nearest comparable car I could find was the 370Z, which is more than 10k more and has a 3.7L V6 which I wasn't in the market for in the first place.

    I'd have liked a 240SX, or something with a bit more power, but they're 11 years out of production. I'd have had fun with an MR-2, but they're canned too. I'd have loved a Lotus Exige, but they're fantastically far out of my price range, and I don't think they can be had for any price around where I live... Actually, the more I think about it, the more it seems that apart from the Genesis Coupe, the type of car I was looking for is extinct at almost any cost.
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    Image of Parramore Parramore
    12/01/09

    @fuchikoma: If you're looking particularly at the 4 cyl I guess you're right. The 370Z was what I had in mind, assuming you'd bargain with the Nissan saleperson to bring down the price, and assuming a 3.8 Genesis.
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    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    12/01/09

    @Parramore: Fair enough... there is a lot more like the 3.8L V6. I tend to like 2L I4 cars, especially turbocharged engines; it's just the right balance of performance, economy, and managability for me. (it's a skating rink outside today, so I don't want another 100-200hp...)

    They got my business because I wanted something like this, had pretty much given up finding it, and just before settling for something else, I heard about these and gave one a try. They actually had to order one for me to buy because they wouldn't stay on the lot for more than a week, so it seems there was an unsatisfied market for this type of car already...
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    12/01/09

    In reply to Hyundai Feasts In November, Sales Up 46%
    I'd revise the headline: Hyundai Feasts In November, Sales Up 46%; Proves Either There Is No God or The Typical American's Idea of An Exciting Evening is Sitting At Home Watching Syndicated American Idol Re-Runs While Eating Plain Cottage Cheese
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    Image of buick61 buick61
    12/01/09

    @bmoreDLJ: Whoa whoa whoa. I was sitting at home watching syndicated American Idol reruns just this weekend. I have 4 RWD American cars, three with V8s. So, I don't see how those are related.
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    Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est promoted this comment buick61 was starred buick61 was unstarred
    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    12/01/09

    @buick61: I don't own a tv nor a car, yet here I am. I dunno whether that proves anything...
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