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    Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion

    IIHS Fires Back, Tells Toyota To Put Cars Where Its Mouth Is

    Toyota Calls IIHS Top Safety Pick Results "Extreme And Misleading"

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    Image of InsertBullets InsertBullets
    11/25/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    wasn't this issue part of the plot for a Tom Clancy book where the US and Japan went to war again like 15 years ago?
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    Image of LuciferV8 LuciferV8
    11/25/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    Well, I guess everything goes in cycles. This (and a few other things) might be the start of a 20-30 year period of Toyota decline.
    I hope not, but empires rise and fall. Especially when the worms of "cost control" and "planned obsolescence" begin to crawl in under the cover of "marketing on one's past reputation of quality".
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    11/25/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    As much as I am not a Toyota fan and a Domestic fanboy this isn't just a Toyota problem. Every manufacturer that mounts the spare behind the axle and under the box has this issue. I've seen Chevy's fall off after a few hundred miles. The assemblies are a joke. I've seen Ford's become so rusted the assembly has to have the gas axe taken to it. I've seen Dodges that come down half way and freeze up.

    Just a stupid design but there is no place else for a full size spare. At least they make it easy to cut the assembly out and put a new one in.

    Lube, lube, lube and more lube so when your spare comes down it will slide out.
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    Image of metrawatt metrawatt
    11/27/09

    @lilwillie: Say what you will, but my 15 y/o 155k mile Chevy 1500 has one of those spares on a cable deal. I don't think it was ever used until recently and it lowers and raises beautifully from the rear bumper. Actually the whole underside of the truck looks pretty good. And this is a used and abused truck from salty NW Jersey.
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    11/27/09

    @metrawatt:

    They must make our Midwestern salty roads saltier than those Jersey roads.

    I have seen some come out fine, but the majority I have seen are fubared.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/24/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    Rogue floor mats must be able to prevent this.

    /NTN trivia sucks all the cleverness from my brain on Tuesday nights
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    Edited by that ain't the way to have fun, son at 11/24/09 10:27 PM that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/24/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    "In those relatively rare cases where the rear cross-member is significantly corroded and can no longer safely support the spare tire, but the rear cross-member cannot be replaced due to excessive frame corrosion at the mounting location (e.g., if the side rails are too damaged), Toyota will develop an appropriate remedy for those vehicles on a case-by- case basis."

    Like, replace the frame? :)
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    Image of Detroit Velvet Smooth aka Panzerwagon Detroit Velvet Smooth aka Panzerwagon
    11/24/09

    @Turboner: I think it will involve twist ties ;)
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    Turboner promoted this comment Detroit Velvet Smooth aka Panzerwagon was starred Detroit Velvet Smooth aka Panzerwagon was unstarred
    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/24/09

    @Detroit Velvet Smooth aka Panzerwagon: Or zipties, like a rally car? ;)

    #tips
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/24/09

    @Detroit Velvet Smooth aka Panzerwagon: Nice avatar, BTW :)

    #tips
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/24/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    So the spare won't fall off, but the frame will still rust within a few years?
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/24/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    A properly contrite Japanese businessman would've seppuku'd himself by now. Toyota built themselves a gigantic reputation of stolid reliability, then built a mountain of hype on the Tundra, saying it would turn the fullsize truck market on its ear. Well, not so much - more like dropped the fullsize truck buyer on his ass.

    Smooth move, Toyota. Way to drop the ball.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/24/09

    @Elhigh: I understand the new one has its own share of problems.

    All I know, Toyota isn't the automatic home run it used to be.

    #tips
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/24/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    Finally, something that's rustier than my dating skills and my sense of humor combined.
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    Edited by pauljones at 11/24/09 6:10 PM pauljones was starred pauljones was unstarred
    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/24/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    But frames in warmer weather states don't rust? Sounds like a larger issue and Toyota is trying to get away cheap.

    The real issue here is losing the rear brakes. Having the spare tire fall out is a problem, but not quite so disastrous.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    11/24/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Who uses their rear brakes?
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/24/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Pretty sure it was NHTSA that allowed the whole "regional recall" joke.

    Edit: New and improved with a link of sorts!

    [www.autosafety.org]
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    Edited by beercheck at 11/24/09 6:07 PM beercheck was starred beercheck was unstarred
    Image of Smells_Homeless Smells_Homeless
    11/24/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: I doubt that frames in warmer weather states rust much at all. Actually, it's not the temperature so much as the corrosive crust they develop in the salt zones.

    Why can't all of North America be the Southwest?
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    pauljones promoted this comment Smells_Homeless was starred Smells_Homeless was unstarred
    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/24/09

    @Smells_Homeless: Because all desert, all the time kind of sucks.
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    Image of Shamoononon: I shave my legs. Shamoononon: I shave my legs.
    11/24/09

    @Smells_Homeless: There are plenty of warm zones near the ocean. Park near the beach enough and it's an issue there as well.
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment Shamoononon: I shave my legs. was starred Shamoononon: I shave my legs. was unstarred
    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/24/09

    @Smells_Homeless: Good thing trucks that spend time in rust states ever get moved/sold into non-rust states. And then re-sold, even. Or vice-versa. Because then this "don't fix this weakness/proclivity in all trucks" crap would be bit of a bad idea.
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    Edited by beercheck at 11/24/09 6:28 PM beercheck was starred beercheck was unstarred
    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    11/24/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Falling spare is an issue if you are on the motorcycle following said Tundra...
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/24/09

    @dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity: Consider yourself warned...
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    Image of Smells_Homeless Smells_Homeless
    11/24/09

    @pauljones: I dunno, man. I sure wasn't thinking that as it started raining while I raked the leaves this afternoon.
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    Image of Smells_Homeless Smells_Homeless
    11/24/09

    @beercheck: That's a good point, and one that I hadn't considered. Thanks!
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    Image of Danimal Danimal
    11/24/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    So North Dakota's not a "cold climate" state?
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    mr_dude promoted this comment Danimal was starred Danimal was unstarred
    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    11/24/09

    @Danimal: It's not a state.
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    mr_dude was starred mr_dude was unstarred
    Image of ptschett ptschett
    11/24/09

    @Danimal: ND doesn't use salt with reckless abandon like MN does. If you're jalopy-shopping in the Red River Valley it's easy to tell which side of the river a car came from.
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    günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi promoted this comment ptschett was starred ptschett was unstarred
    Image of günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
    11/24/09

    @ptschett: amazing how well sand works, eh?
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    günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi was starred günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi was unstarred
    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    11/24/09

    @ptschett:

    From this valley they say you are going,
    To shop for a truck with a smile,
    For they say here is nothing but sunshine,
    Much like that which you'll find on the Miracle Mile,

    Come and sit by my side, if you love me,
    Do not hasten to shift into third,
    Just remember the Red River Valley,
    Where you'll never get stuck with a turd,

    I've been thinking a long time, my darling,
    Of a Jap truck that starts with a "T",
    Now alas, all my fond hopes must vanish,
    Since the steel worm has found even me,

    So remember the Red River Valley,
    Where the class-action lawsuits abound,
    Due to Toyota truck frames collapsing,
    When you load them with more than a pound.
     Reply
    Edited by HoonThatFerrari at 11/24/09 9:09 PM HoonThatFerrari was starred HoonThatFerrari was unstarred
    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    11/24/09

    @mr_dude: I thought we traded North Dakota to Canada for a couple of truck loads of Labbats and a case of maple syrup.
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    11/24/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    I am Tundra. My tank is rusty.
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    Image of Muscles Marinara Muscles Marinara
    11/24/09

    @VeeArrrSix: ha... Dodge is never gonna live that down. But at least they don't have this to deal with.
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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    11/24/09

    @VeeArrrSix: My name is Tundra. My spare is gone.
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    11/24/09

    In reply to Toyota Recalls 110,000 Tundra Pickups For Frame Corrosion
    Will they fix it with zip ties?
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/18/09

    In reply to BMW, Toyota Don't Make IIHS 2010 Top Safety List
    Now if anyone, even just one, person at Chrysler had half a brain, they'd really grab this opportunity. Safety is important, and a fantastic selling point.

    This may be the one and only thing Dodge can shove into Toyota's face and actually have ground to stand on.
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    11/18/09

    In reply to Toyota Calls IIHS Top Safety Pick Results "Extreme And Misleading"
    Toyota failed because the testers kept falling asleep from boredom.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/18/09

    In reply to IIHS Fires Back, Tells Toyota To Put Cars Where Its Mouth Is

    Volvo says, put up or shut up. From a 1971 ad. The Headline was "Are you in the market for a hardtop?"
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    Image of UnlimitedRevs UnlimitedRevs
    11/18/09

    @Novaload: The good old days of car advertising.
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    Novaload promoted this comment UnlimitedRevs was starred UnlimitedRevs was unstarred
    Image of ozyran ozyran
    11/18/09

    @Novaload: THAT is AWESOME.

    Heart clicky for you.
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    Novaload promoted this comment ozyran was starred ozyran was unstarred
    Image of mowog001 mowog001
    11/18/09

    @Novaload: That photo was taken at the abandoned Brookley Air Force Base in Mobile, Alabama in the early 70's. I lived there and watched them stack the cars. There were wooden platforms between the cars to steady them. After the photo session wrapped, the crane operator knocked the stack over. BIG FUN! The next morning several of the cars came up missing - some of the neighborhood hooligans rolled them back on their wheels and 'liberated' them. The local fuzz found the cars and the ad agency refused to press charges. The cars were water damaged during shipping - they found one more use for them before the cars were crushed. Thanks for the memories!
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    Novaload promoted this comment mowog001 was starred mowog001 was unstarred
    Image of KeyserSoze KeyserSoze
    11/18/09

    @Novaload: I thought i heard somewhere a while back that this ad was debunked and that volvo had a bunch of 2x4s in the car to brace up the roof. Could have been a rumor though. Anyone know?
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    Novaload promoted this comment KeyserSoze was starred KeyserSoze was unstarred
    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/18/09

    @KeyserSoze: No--see mowog's comment above...
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/18/09

    @UnlimitedRevs: Truly. I have a decent collection of some old ads, I post them here when they fit...
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    Image of KeyserSoze KeyserSoze
    11/18/09

    @Novaload: I did some googling around and it was actually an ad where they dropped the Volvo onto it's roof, but it had welded supports in it to prevent it from crushing in. I mixed up the 2 ad's.
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    Image of Flattire Flattire
    11/19/09

    @Novaload: My 960 sedan was a Tank, I would love to have it back!!
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