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    Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames

    Wide Plains, Road Trains, A Whole New World Ahead Of Me: Toyota Of Australia
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    Image of luismendozaduran luismendozaduran
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    Those frames look like bycicles made in china...
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/30/09

    @luismendozaduran: I own a bicycle that looks almost that bad.


    It's the best bicycle ever.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    That's right: Toyota is the only Japanese company that hasn't figured out rustproofing.
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    Image of aSoundofSleep-less nights aSoundofSleep-less nights
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    As much as I loved my 96 4-Runner I hated the rust underneath it. Even the trailer hitch was rusted to pieces (fortunately that cleaned up well). But to be totally honest, most of the truck this is happening to are over 10 years old. Not that I'm saying it shouldn't happen, I just don't think it's Toyota's responsibility after ten years.

    Hell, most Chryslers don't even last five years.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/30/09

    @aSoundofSleep Forager of Pistons: I love the chromed bumpers turning into a fine powder.


    It's sad - most cars 10+ years ago wouldn't run as long as a Toyota, but they'd almost always stay solid longer.

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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    :) I've split one of those on the hoist. Owner wasn't real happy when he saw that happen.


    I warned him.....

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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    04/30/09

    @lilwillie wants another PCH: Twice I've had "mechanics" drive my van(s) into the overhead door right after I said to them "watch the top of that, it's pretty tall".


    Jackasses.

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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    These are not so invincible, I guess.
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    Image of Laxfalcon246 Laxfalcon246
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    no, see toyota was thinking ahead, as the car ages and looses horsepower, it sheds weight, thus maintaining performance. Its actually pretty clever
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    04/30/09

    @Laxfalcon246: More importantly, it improves fuel economy - just another example of how Toyota cares for the environment


    Just don't look at the Sequoia behind the curtain.

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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    04/30/09

    @Maymar bans bare chassis hoonage: And let's not forget built in recycling. You don't have to return it for scrap, it just returns to the earth from which it came. Truly environmentally friendly.
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    Image of MarywithanM™ MarywithanM™
    04/30/09

    @Laxfalcon246: That is fantastic. Can you help me with my resume?
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    04/30/09

    @Marywithoutu: A guy I worked with was a master of the resume punch-up. He turned working at Subway into "Nutrition Distribution Specialist".


    /tangent

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    Image of DiegoMDM DiegoMDM
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    Is this a worldwide problem, or is just there in the U.S.?
    I know many people who own 90's toyotas and they do not have this problem, even tough SOFASA, the company that build Toyota/Renault products here in Colombia, isn't really known fos high quality builds.
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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    04/30/09

    @DiegoMDM: Here is what happened: Some beancounter at Toyota decided they could save several pennies per truck if they either used less paint or a cheaper alternative paint on the frame. Simple as that. There was probably some old timer that worked there that said if y'all do that y'all(*) will live to regret it cause back in 51 we tried the same dern thing and it didn't work then either.


    *probably didn't say yall seeing how this is Japan but you get the point

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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    04/30/09

    @Flathead Smith: Made in the US though, so y'all still works.
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    Image of Leeeeena the Jalopchick Leeeeena the Jalopchick
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    This is Toyota's way of telling everybody they should move to Alameda.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    04/30/09

    @Leeeeena the Jalopchick: I can't. At least not until the restraining order expires.


    But when it does...watch out, Murilee!

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    04/30/09

    @engineerd: Murilee is not a chick. I know I know... I was surprised too.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    04/30/09

    @Prawo Jazdy And The Velocity Trumpets: You take that back!


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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    04/30/09

    @engineerd: That cover is exactly wrong for the novel... that image is the British graphic designer's conception of what an Orange County dot-com VP looks like. Really.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    Denis Kneale: "No way, this is staged. Toyota's don't have these kind of problems."


    Link this to Giz and Gawker, they'll never believe this could happen to a Toyota.


    Only the U.S. builds a proper pickup my friends, only the U.S.

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    04/30/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Yes, and Toyota's quality isn't what it used to be. Hasn't been for a few years now.


    Maybe public perception will start to change?

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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    04/30/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: My 21 year old Silverado agrees. ...the U.S. builds a proper pickup... Some superficial rust, but zero scale (on the frame), and certainly no structural issues.
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    Image of tomlewis tomlewis
    04/30/09

    @engineerd:
    Hate to say this ,BUT, maybe that is because they are built in the US now.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    04/30/09

    @tomlewis: That may be a small part of it. There are many contributors to the decline of quality at Toyota.
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    Image of Jim-Bob Jim-Bob
    04/30/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: My 320,000 mile 1998 Frontier disagrees. No rust issues at all despite 320,000 miles of pizza delivery during all kinds of weather, from Florida's hot summers to Florida's other season: Not Quite Summer. I even saw a full week of a northern winter in Bingampton NY once.
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    Image of RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
    04/30/09

    @engineerd:


    I'm thinking we're 5 years out from perception catching up to reality, at a minimum.

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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    04/30/09

    @tomlewis: They use their own steel and processes.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    04/30/09

    @rlj676-Carbon Footprint Size - Clownshoe: I agree. If Toyota has a few more missteps like this, and depending on the media coverage of it (that is really what it will come down to), the perception will change a little faster.


    Hopefully it's fast enough. And hopefully Ford and GM don't do anything to screw it up.

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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    04/30/09

    @Jim-Bob: First off, that's a Nissan, and second, it's still a baby truck.


    They're like the pastina of pickup trucks.

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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    04/30/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: haha my Equator's completely rust free!!!!!! lolzzzz


    jk

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    Image of mentir mentir
    04/30/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Never request anything to be cross-linked to any of the other Gawker sites. I beg of you. For the children's sake.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    04/30/09

    @mentir: We need another Jezebel cross-link.
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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    04/30/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Thirdly, he lives in Florida, pretty sure his truck's never seen road salt.
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    This is my first rustful glance at a modern Toyota.
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    Image of MrBangBam MrBangBam
    04/30/09

    @Ash78: How did everyone miss this! You're a genius.
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    Image of TriumphRacer TriumphRacer
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    Damn. Seriously? I've seen 40 year old British Leyland frames that don't look that rotted. I'd say Toyota builds the toughest truck in the universe if they can have rust like this and still survive what Top Gear puts them through.
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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    04/30/09

    @TriumphRacer: Ah, but see that was an old truck, the frames last forever, it's the bodies that disintegrate on those. These new ones seem to be the opposite.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    Um yeah I brought my truck in for the recall on the rusty frames. I'll be in the waiting room, make it snappy!
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    Image of Pixel Pixel
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    Also, they're still not much good at rustproofing. This is the rear beam on my '04 xB *after* I ground the worst of the rust off.
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    04/30/09

    [farm4.static.flickr.com]
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    Image of Leeeeena the Jalopchick Leeeeena the Jalopchick
    04/30/09

    @Pixel: Here.


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    Image of Pixel Pixel
    04/30/09

    @Leeeeena the Jalopchick: Thank you, I fail at image code today.
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    Image of Leeeeena the Jalopchick Leeeeena the Jalopchick
    04/30/09

    @Pixel: No problem. For future reference, the code is >img src="link" and just replace > with < :)
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    04/30/09

    @Pixel: As someone who is likely to never escape NY, I have to say I think I'm just inured to rust. I spent a lot of time under my xB recently (a bunch of maintenance items came up at once), and frankly, I didn't think it was that bad. My car's at least as rusty.


    It's not just a Toyota thing: every car that's exposed to actual weather rusts. Plain and simple.


    The GMC Sonoma I used to own left a huge rectangle of rust in a friend's driveway after we did the brakes, front shocks and replumbed the rear air shocks. It was horrifying, and the truck was only 6 years old at the time. My five year old xB is orders of magnitude better.

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    INCONCEIVABLE!


    /Vizzini

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    Image of .357 .357
    04/30/09

    In reply to Toyota Truck Owners Clamoring For Recall Over Dangerously Rusted Frames
    And some people criticize Chrysler over iPod docks...
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