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    Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach

    The Olsen Eagle Toronado: Expanded In Every Direction!

    The Real Speed Racer: Modified Fiat X/19

    We Hear From The Toronado Limowagon's Owner!

    Now That's Class: 6-Wheeled Olds Toronado Limowagon!

    Olds Had a V8, or Two, Toronado
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    Image of zeeboid zeeboid
    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    I like it. Its kind of like a Real Lambo, but it will more than likely run longer before braking down.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/02/08

    @zeeboid: And you'll more than likely have to brake longer before stopping. At least it's less likely to break.


    See what I did there?

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    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    There's a '68 or '69 Toronado for sale down the road. I'll take that instead, thanks.


    That being said, this is the best Lamfauxghini yet.

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    Image of IamZardoz IamZardoz
    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    Those chuckles at the GM 3 speed auto are probably coming from folks who have either never driven an older GM car with a stump-puller V8 or have forgotten you could actually do the trick with just two speeds!
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    12/02/08

    @IamZardoz: Damn right you can do the trick with two speeds - "faster, faster!" and "ohh, yes!"
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    12/02/08

    @FuzzyPlushroom: That's better than "Is it in yet?" and "Done already?"
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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    Olds engine? Did someone say Olds engine? A reasonably fresh mild build has acres of gut wrenching torque. Driving that thing has got to be a hoot. My Trans Am would spin the tires over crosswalk paint stripes under minimal throttle. And this is a lot better looking than a ratty old T/A. Very much want.
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    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    Countach!


    OW! MY EYE!

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/02/08

    @BlueRSX: Three. Two. One. Countach!!
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    Image of jduffy13 jduffy13
    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    Do you think this guy actually tells people that he drives a Countach?


    Do you think people who really drive a Countach tell other people that they drive a Countach?


    I'm thinking that in some states if you rolled up into a bar and said the word Countach you could start a fight pretty easily.

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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/04/08

    @jduffy13: I think he tells people he drives a Toronado with some awesome aftermarket body mods.
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    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    With the Rocket 425 aboard, I think it's got two more gears than it needs.


    Italian looks, American bellow, I'd drive it.

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    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    Give me a Cobra or GT40 replica anyday when it comes down to copies.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    First person who finds me a Vector replica wins a pie.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    12/02/08

    @Rust-MyEnemy--ymenEyM-tsuR:


    I'm glad I'm not the only one that knows what a Vector is. I remember that the old Vectors also used those same three-speeds.

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    Image of Almostbanned Almostbanned
    12/02/08

    @pauljones: Vector! Truly it was the fastest, most technologically sophisticated, best looking, and most wonderfulest car ever made in the 1980s.

    It had a computer screen on the dash! And used aerospace-grade steel braid hoses!


    And if you disagree with that assessment then you are clearly part of the conspiracy which led to its demise.

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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/02/08

    @Almostbanned: Indeed. Especially the A-WX3. I had a glimpse of it in a magazine when I was 10 (in 1991). I felt the future arrive that very day.
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    12/02/08

    @pauljones: The W12 was one of my favourite cars in Gran Turismo 2....
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    12/02/08

    @Rust-MyEnemy--ymenEyM-tsuR: I used to see the Vector every year at the Long Beach Grand Prix (F1) and every year Gerry Wiegert would paint it a different color so people would think there were several of them. I gave up on his sories after a few years. His HP claims for the new(ish) WX-8 seem to come from the same smoke and mirrors factory.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    12/02/08

    @RC51:


    LOL...that is where I used to see it as well. And I will never forget how odd it was to sit in it, look for the shifter to your right, only to find that it was on the left by the door. I never could get used to that idea.

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/02/08

    @Rust-MyEnemy--ymenEyM-tsuR: Jeebus, this is sad--when I was 10 or so I saw and heard one of the turbine cars and at that moment believed I was feeling the future arrive.
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    12/03/08

    @Rust-MyEnemy--ymenEyM-tsuR:


    I couldn't find a replica. Will a real one do?

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    12/03/08

    @Mike the Dog: Supposed to be pics with that...


    Vector W-8 Twin Turbo


    Vector W-8 Twin Turbo

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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    Never having gotten a hard-on while watching Miami Vice (yes, I know that was a Ferrari- whatever), I think I'd much rather have the Toronado.


    Besides, a FWD GM product that isn't a vortex of suck should be celebrated, not cannibalized for some stupid kit-car.

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    Image of Sigsworth Sigsworth
    12/02/08

    @Slantsick- on layaway at SPATULA CITY: "Spatula City," haven't heard that in a long time...
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    12/02/08

    @Sigsworth: Yeah, just rewatched my copy of UHF night before last for the first time in ages- still makes me laugh.
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    Dangerous torque-steer? Check.

    Lambo-esque insanity and lack of regard for safety? Check.

    Fast? Check.

    Completely impractical? Check.

    Kind of good-looking? Check.

    Probably unreliable? Check.


    Ok, it passes the Lambo-ness test.

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    12/02/08

    @Plecostomus - Now with 20% more Algae!:


    Where are we getting the whole torque steer thing from? Certainly, the engine was once applied to FWD car, and likely caused some trouble when turning or abruptly accelerating, but now that the engine is mod-mounted and powering the rear, non-steering wheels, I think we have moved away from torque steer and into the realm of throttle-steer.

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    Image of mzs mzs
    12/02/08

    @pauljones: Torque steer doesn't have much to do with the fact that in a FWD front engined car the front wheels are used for steering. What is the primary cause of torque steer is the fact that the transaxle is mounted transversely. Therefore the driveshafts are different lengths to the right and left wheel. The torque twists the drive shafts but the shorter one less. This causes that side to go before the other, and that is torque steer. There are tons of secondary causes. By putting the engine and the transaxle in the back, you still get torque steer.


    You get throttle steer if you have a transmission, driveshaft, and differential to the rear wheels. The reasons for throttle steer are the same as those as the secondary reasons for torque steer.

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    Image of nick2ny nick2ny
    12/02/08

    @mzs: wrong buddy!
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    12/02/08

    @nick2ny:@mzs:


    Actually, it would seem that he is right:


    [en.wikipedia.org]


    Well, I learned something new today, as I never thought about it in quite that way. I humbly stand re-edumacated on this particular matter.

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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    12/02/08

    @mzs: I know. My Fiero GT had torque steer thanks to its lack of an LSD and FWD underpinnings.


    Which is basically what this car is.


    Thanks for proving me right!

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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    Front drive transaxle at the rear?


    Mucho torquemungous rear-wheel-steer action!


    What a fantastic car!

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    12/02/08

    @Rust-MyEnemy--ymenEyM-tsuR: Depends on how many of those 360 horses made it alive to see today.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    12/02/08

    @Rust-MyEnemy--ymenEyM-tsuR: I like it a lot. Of course, I'd ditch the Lambo body kit and put a Fiero body on it.
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    12/02/08

    @six: Hey, it's pre-emissions! tear that puppy down and do whatever you like to it.
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    12/02/08

    @Murilee Martin: Especially a slightly unconvincing, seen-through-the-bottom-of-a-bottle Fiero body... And possibly a rotary...
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    12/02/08

    @Murilee Martin: Not the GT model, either. The 2M4.


    Where do you keep finding these backyard Lambos, Murilee? Seriously.

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    Image of layabout layabout
    12/02/08

    In reply to Backyard Lambo Of The Day: The Missouri Olds Toronado-fied Countach
    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha 3 speed auto hahahahahahahahahaha
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    12/02/08

    @layabout: oh & it's fwd hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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    12/02/08

    @layabout: You sure seem to be talking to yourself a lot lately.
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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    12/02/08

    @layabout: It's a fwd layout... IN THE BACK hahahahahahaha. No it's pretty cool actually. 3-speed may seem dumb, but with that much torque and HP you could probably just leave it in 3rd and smoke the tires off the line.
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    12/02/08

    @layabout: I would assume that since it's powerplant donor was FWD and this is mounted rearward, that Olds motor is driving the rear tires.
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    12/02/08

    @acarr260: Yep,inbetween looking for hairs in the palm of my hand.
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    12/02/08

    @layabout: dewd, its RWD...plus back in '66, that 425 put out nearly 500 lb/ft of torque.


    not to mention the sun will burn out before a TH400 breaks.

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    12/02/08

    @layabout:


    In defense of the old three-speeds, the old Vector supercars were fitted with those same three-speeds, and the little bastards would happily do better than 150mph. That's got to be worth something. And, as Tenbeers points out, not even Honda or Toyota can match the TH400 for sheer, bulletproof durability.

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    12/02/08

    @the artist formerly known as dolo54: Poor Lambo copies just don't look quite right, to then make it an auto just adds insult to injury. I'm not doubting the engines capabilities,just the package is either hit or miss,for me it's a miss.
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    12/02/08

    @layabout:


    Yeah, it doesn't do too much for me either. I do give him points for creativity and "A" for effort, though.

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    12/02/08

    @pauljones: Yeah,A for effort is fair,as said it's not to everyones taste.
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    12/02/08

    @layabout:


    Yuk it up. This laughable 425 ci/3-speed auto combo could push the nearly-5,000 pound Toronado to 60 in 7.5 seconds with a top speed of 135 mph, according to road tests. I would guess this Lamborado weighs considerably less and slices through the air better.


    When you have monstrous torque combined with one of the best auto trannies ever, three speeds work fine.

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    12/02/08

    @tonyola: I see you just completely failed to read my previous comments about a poor Lambo replica & that i had no problem with the engine. ffs
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