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    Image of ArtForge ArtForge
    11/16/09

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    Unions. #gm
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/16/09

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    Let's not forget that Detroit has brought most of this on itself, over the past fifty or so years. They focused on short term profits, over long term competitiveness. Detroit was also right in the front rank, advocating for free trade, lower tariffs and NAFTA, because it helped them expand overseas and develop those markets and low cost manufacturing.

    Foreign manufacturers focused on niches that the Americans abandoned, on quality and reliability, on value.

    The former Axis countries benefitted in part from the war, as when they rebuilt their industries, they had advanced modern plants. They also had highly skilled and dedicated, unionized workforces.

    And their governments made sure that health care and retirement was paid when it was earned, rather than leaving it to the companies to carry on their books, and plunder.

    I regret the bailout, but it was necessary - even if it simply buys a few more years for these companies. I also regret that the corporate management that brought us to this point has been richly rewarded and will not suffer in the least for the damage they created and the wreckage they leave behind.

    The government showed up too late, has done too little, and has demanded too little in return for the bailouts. But without the government counterweight to the irresponsibility of the corporations, things would be immensely worse right now. #gm
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    Image of Matt Hardigree Matt Hardigree
    11/16/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: That's about right, but way not as much fun. #gm
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    Image of DrLemming DrLemming
    11/16/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Well said. #gm
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    11/16/09

    In reply to EXCLUSIVE: First Post-Lake Crash Bugatti Veyron Photo
    I do believe that these are some of the first watermarked photos that I have seen on Jalopnik. #bugattiveyron
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/16/09

    @P161911 probably shoudn't have: Uh, we've been doing watermarked images for literally years.

    [jalopnik.com] #bugattiveyron
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    11/16/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: I just haven't noticed any with the Jalopnik logo before. That and watermarked sort of has a double meaning here.

    I didn't think the humor was THAT subtle.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    11/16/09

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    OK. First Jalopnik reports that there really is going to be a V-Wagon. Then I check out the commenting section, and an option has been added, to view the comments oldest first again.

    This is proof positive that we are in a recovery.

    I guess it's safe to post again... #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    11/16/09

    @DoctorNine: Welcome back, DoctorNine. #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    11/16/09

    @pauljones: Thanks Paul... #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/16/09

    In reply to EXCLUSIVE: First Post-Lake Crash Bugatti Veyron Photo
    Ach. Dieter Burmester isn't going to be happy that one of his mobile concert hall has been ruined.
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    Edited by Pessimippopotamus at 11/16/09 8:31 PM Pessimippopotamus was starred Pessimippopotamus was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/16/09

    In reply to EXCLUSIVE: First Post-Lake Crash Bugatti Veyron Photo
    Ben, here's your first tow job for your new flatbed.

    Head to Houston, recover sunken Veyron, take to Arizona desert, let sit until July, return it to Detroit and get it running enough to double the city's value. #bugattiveyron
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/16/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son: I like it. That W16 would be a lot of fun in the back seat of a Ford Police Interceptor. #bugattiveyron
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    11/16/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Backseat...and much of the trunk.

    Cuts down on dead hooker storage, though. You can't have it all...but you have a nice start by having your own flatbed wrecker.

    Damn, that's cool.

    Gotta love diesel engines...can sit for a year and fire with likely only a battery replacement/charge. #bugattiveyron
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/16/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son: Or in our case, two rounds of glow-plug warm up and 20 seconds of cranking. #bugattiveyron
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/16/09

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    A CTW-V with Bob Lutz in the driver's seat with Megan Fox in the passenger's and Ray and Murilee in the backseats and a dragon in the trunk. That's pretty much Jalopnik in a nutshell. #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    Image of Jason Heck Jason Heck
    11/16/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: That just happened! Doesn't that blow your mind!

    Should we call Bob The Magic Man? #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/16/09

    @Jason Heck: #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/16/09

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    I like it, and I'm not a wagon guy. I prefer four-door sedans, but that's likely from growing up with two-door pickups. No trunk, seats three...inside, too much utility, almost -0- comfort.

    I do hope this works well.

    However...please do not call it a Sport-anything.

    Station. Wagon. CTW-V

    I know we don't have station cars, but that's what it is.

    Oh, and bring back the Roadmonster wag. Please? #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    Why this is a strange coincidence. We seem to have some automotive yin-yang going in today. #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    11/16/09

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    I purposely held off on commenting on this particular post today, because if any of you really know me, I am a Socialist.

    - I believe that non college educated workers should be able to make a decent wage to support their families.
    - I think there should be caps on executive compensation.
    - I think that decent, affordable health care is a right, with no caps on care, and no pre-existing conditions ever.
    - I believe that no one in America should go hungry.
    - Having said that, there should be a choice as to whether you want growth hormones or chemicals in your food.
    - I think there should be MORE regulation needed in the Banking and Brokerage sectors.
    - There should be sustainable growth, and by that I mean 1 or 2%; Double Digit Growth in the worth of your home, interest bearing accounts, or stock percentages are not sustainable.
    - I think there should be only a 2 term Senator, Congressman, and a one term President.
    - Scrap all the free trade accords, and renegotiate them so that they are not as one sided as they seem to be today.
    - Penalize any American Corporation who relocates manufacturing abroad.

    Hmmmm, and that's just the beginning. #gm
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    Image of JustAnObserverII JustAnObserverII
    11/16/09

    @UDMan: Ahhh, May I ask What Planet are You from Sir? #gm
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    Image of XdesIDtrans XdesIDtrans
    11/16/09

    @UDMan: You could just penalize any American Corporation by not allowing them to relocate manufacturing abroad...

    I could agree on renegotiating trade, but limiting trade will only hurt our companies. And ultimately it is better for the world economy (which we benefit from) to trade goods and services, not artificially restrict trade. Government should only intervene in situations that present undue risk to parties not involved, and the government should govern corporations, not turn into a corporation. But I'm a Libertarian. #gm
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    UDMan promoted this comment XdesIDtrans was starred XdesIDtrans was unstarred
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    11/16/09

    @JustAnObserverII: Is there really anything in my post that isn't worth obtaining, or are you one of these "it's mine, and I'll never share anything" type of people? #gm
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    11/16/09

    @UDMan: You have my vote. #gm
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    Image of UGAdawg UGAdawg
    11/16/09

    @UDMan: You call that being a socialist? :-) Here are my tenants.

    - I believe that anyone who is smart enough to pass college entrance exams and have the high school grades to make it into college should have their tuition paid for. You have one chance to make it. Flunk out once and the deal is off.
    - I believe that health care should be available to anyone who's a citizen of this country or that are legally here. Universal health care coverage makes fiscal sense even if the conservatives disagree.
    - There should be more regulation in the financial sector. Capitalism works when it's well regulated. That doesn't mean heavily regulated. Rules make for a level playing field, meaning you know what you're getting yourself into.
    - I believe that all elections should be publicly funded and soft money should be banned. It's time to end the sweetheart deals that result from corporations funding candidates.
    - Campaigns should not be run no longer than 3 months.

    However I don't want to get rid of the two term limit for Presidents.

    May the flaming begin, lol. #gm
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    Image of IronicalBalls IronicalBalls
    11/16/09

    @UDMan: Warren Buffet once said, "The 400 of us [here] pay a lower part of our income in taxes than our receptionists do, or our cleaning ladies, for that matter. If you’re in the luckiest 1 per cent of humanity, you owe it to the rest of humanity to think about the other 99 per cent."

    Buffet is the only honest exception. He does not use tax havens like other Forbes 400 listers. I say, once you can afford to buy every person in your state a Ferrari California 2010... Maybe you should start to give back to the system that has made you so successful.
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    UDMan promoted this comment Edited by IronicalBalls at 11/16/09 8:53 PM IronicalBalls was starred IronicalBalls was unstarred
    Image of XdesIDtrans XdesIDtrans
    11/16/09

    @UDMan: No, I love the goals, I really do. Most of your solutions I disagree with but I too think nobody should go hungry, and that people should be able to support their families, and that sustainable growth would be more stable and forgiving (though the market is cyclical). I don't believe in more regulation or policies that promote entitlement. #gm
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    11/16/09

    @UGAdawg: Minus the healthcare, which I think should be regulated, not owned by the government (which is a managing body not a corporation, and is generally inefficient and slow to innovate without market pressures)... I may agree is principle, especially with the campaigns. I also think perhaps it just needs to be easier to pay for college and repay it later...(perhaps the no interest loan route) we're going to have to pay for it somehow, better more directly then through gov bureaucracy. #gm
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    Image of kapwinnnng kapwinnnng
    11/16/09

    @UDMan: I'm with you 100%. #gm
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    UDMan promoted this comment kapwinnnng was starred kapwinnnng was unstarred
    Image of Shamoononon:  I shave my legs. Shamoononon: I shave my legs.
    11/16/09

    @UDMan: I believe that I am God. #gm
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    UDMan promoted this comment Shamoononon: I shave my legs. was starred Shamoononon: I shave my legs. was unstarred
    Image of UGAdawg UGAdawg
    11/16/09

    @XdesIDtrans: I'm still holding on to my belief on health care. With regards to education, the state of Georgia has a program that does exactly what I want. If you are a resident of the state and have met the entry requirements for a state school within the state then your tuition is paid for. You also receive a stipend for books. You are responsible for housing and meals. My sister was eligible and had her undergraduate degree financed by the state. She has gone on to get her pharmD degree (on her dime).
    [www.gacollege411.org]

    I feel each state should have something like this. Georgia's program is considered a huge success. Meanwhile I went to Georgia myself but my priorities were a bit screwed up. Procrastinating is fun. I ended up getting a BS degree from another institution but I'm doing well for myself. #gm
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    11/16/09

    @UGAdawg: Well, you've actually touched on something pretty cool here. Using a state as a case study I think is a great idea... allowing states to make a lot of these decisions allows us to experiment with different ideas and adopt what works... Georgia has a very good healthcare setup relative to Massachusetts which is set up similarly to Obama's new plan... why not take Georgia's approach instead? Or allow the states to make that call for themselves? #gm
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    11/16/09

    @UDMan: I kind of like that last one. Companies end up going abroad to cut costs because they did something wrong in the first place. Penalizing short cuts is a good idea. #gm
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    Image of stephdumas stephdumas
    11/16/09

    @XdesIDtrans: That reminds me of a clip I saw on Youtube #gm
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    Image of DrLemming DrLemming
    12:00 AM

    @Shamoononon: I shave my legs.: I thought that I was. This is problematic. #gm
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    12:02 AM

    @stephdumas: Your clip is partisan propaganda, and not very well done at that. #gm
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/16/09

    In reply to 2010 Mercedes E63 AMG: First Drive
    After reading both this and the current C&D test on the E63, and currently owning a 124 E-class which followed a 126 4.2L SEL, I can say I have no alternative but to shop a CTS-V in the future.

    It'll be affordable about a decade sooner. Even then, I'm going to have to revise my used car fund to be more than $10K (not adjusted for inflation, just haul-assisity). #2010mercedese63amg
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Ten Most Important Features Car Buyers Want And Why
    Out of the entire list I only have cruse control. I guess I could count GPS but I only use it twice a year for the traffic information when I drive up to New York or down to North Carolina. Also it's only in my car when I plan to use it. In any case I am proud to have so little in common with this list.

    I'm surprised remote door locks aren't on the list. I haven't seen anyone without one that isn't driving a rental car in years. #cartech
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    I want to see it go head to head with Pete Gaines' SHO wagon. Fo Sho. #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/16/09

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    Watch out Taurus SHO Wagon, there might finally be a more powerful grocery-getter on the streets. #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    11/16/09

    In reply to EXCLUSIVE: First Post-Lake Crash Bugatti Veyron Photo
    Something tells me that spare parts aren't exactly easy to find for a Veyron. But I know a Hungarian guy who can help find a spare engine!

    [jalopnik.com]
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    Edited by Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . at 11/16/09 6:53 PM Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . was starred Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . was unstarred
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