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    Image of Franzouse Franzouse
    05:45 PM

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    Interesting post but it stills needs to be tagged as an opinion piece.
    Watch out though, because Fox is going to come back with a "why does GM hate America?" piece.
    #opinion #gm
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    05:37 PM

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    Whatever. My dad gave up on American cars back in the '80s, because he got sick of the hideous build quality and reliability. And that was when he was still a Democrat!

    Jesus, Matt, was this necessary? I come here for cars, not for barely-related, crudely-biased political commentary. #gm
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    Image of Matt Hardigree Matt Hardigree
    05:43 PM

    @If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face: Politicians have injected themselves hard into the automotive dialogue, whether for good or ill. We'd rather see Duncan Hunter crash a Ferrari or some Gymkhana with Michael Steele, but right now this is what we've got. If you call for a boycott of American car companies because they're socialist we're going to comment. #gm
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    05:37 PM

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    Did you stop to think that this odd feeling you're having right now, is just your chain being yanked? #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    Image of snorkelingsarcosuchus001 snorkelingsarcosuchus001
    05:37 PM

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    right-wing conservatives have gone loco, really loco. they're spitting out all kinds of hate against anything to get noticed, or just to vent anger. if you're the sympathetic kind, you'd say they know not what they're doing. to me, they suck. and if they keep going loco and more loco, i'm gonna be really genuinely scared of what they'd be capable of

    if this article *upsets* you, maybe you should switch over to autoblog instead #gm
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    05:39 PM

    @snorkelingsarcosuchus001: And the liberals didn't do the exact same thing when Bush was in office? #gm
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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    05:29 PM

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    Judging by the image, you guys are already engaged in the celebratory hot boxing. #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    Image of FlakJack FlakJack
    05:28 PM

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    Want very much. Cannot afford. #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    Image of BigHarv BigHarv
    05:23 PM

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    Had to announce this just after I ordered roof racks for my car, huh? Ah, who am I kidding, I'll have to wait five years for these to depreciate before I can afford one. #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    Image of JCWhitless JCWhitless
    05:21 PM

    In reply to VIDEO: Ferrari California Power-Slides Into Front End Loader
    What, nobody claiming this is insurance fraud? C'mon. Who leaves a Back Hoe to get hit like that?

    /you people drive me crazy #ferraricalifornia
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    Image of IDesigner loves himself some car IDesigner loves himself some car
    05:21 PM

    In reply to Bob Lutz Confirms Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Achieves Sainthood
    Sweet news. That 'shop is pretty painful on the eyes though. #cadillacctsvsportwagon
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    05:18 PM

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    Matt, I have a lot of respect for you, but you (And your boss, Ray Wert, who was previously a Senior Staffer employed by the Democratic Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm) need to clearly label opinion articles what they are, opinion articles, with no real news or information at all. It is just you ranting your your opinions, which, by the way, are full of completely unsubstantiated and contain little actual logic. And the anti-socialist/facist propaganda does look cool, but does little to aid your actual point.

    If you think that Republicans truly hate American Automakers, thats your opinion. Perhaps you've been drinking a little too much Pelosi-ade.

    But to post something like this, here, on Jalopnik, where politics is generally a no-go zone (besides making fun of politicians for their numerous stupid decisions) is simply pointless.
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    Image of Neener Neener
    05:24 PM

    @Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .: I had some Pelosi-ade the other night...not nearly as fulfilling as you would think. Anyhow I prefer the enigmatic qualities of Foxnews-ade where you really don't know what exactly you're drinking. #gm
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    05:53 PM

    @Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .: You know, I think Wert and Co. are generally pretty good about keeping a lid on their bias. But it still rears its head in little bursts like this that have almost nothing to do with cars.

    Their are places that I go for political discussion and car sites and magazines are not one of those places. The fact that Motor Trend went completely in the tank for Obama and the green movement last year is what put the final nail in my subscription to that magazine. #gm
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    05:15 PM

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    You know, if I cared to, I could cobble together 100 quotes from Democrats opposing the AIG bailout and ask why Democrats hate Americans' pension funds. It wouldn't be clever or fair, but I could do it. I could also pull together some quotes from Democrats supporting the auto bailout and ask why they hate the American tax payer. Anyone want to read that? Sounds boring and awful to me. There are many, many reasons to criticize the bailouts, and if the point here is to take specific politicians to task on specific statements and the factual support for them, then do that. If the point is to divine the larger Republican attitude toward the auto industry and criticize it, then do that. But don't start from the assumption that the bailouts were a good idea or that the GOP is monolithic on the issue.

    Sorry to be harsh. One of the best things about Jalopnik is that it's fearless in writing about automotive issues. I certainly wouldn't want to impose arbitrary restrictions on its content, but my point is to ask whether this kind of quote-and-eye-roll piece belongs here. There might be better fora for this. #gm
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    05:08 PM

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    uffda, I'm not going near this one.

    /casts line into something fun #gm
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    Image of wicketr wicketr
    05:01 PM

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    Republicans are for capitalism. Businesses being able to support themselves and not have governmental control over them. It's an ideal of what this country was founded on.

    Guess what, if Toyota or VW came to them for a bailout, they'd still say no. I'm not sure what your agenda is with this insanely biased article, but it has little to no use on this website. Don't make this a political blog.

    No company, no matter who ones them, DESiERVES a bailout. Maybe if the US were rolling around in Scrooge McDuck size piles of money we could loan away. But the US does not. The companies in question have not shown a single viable plan to make them look decent as a company worth investing in and giving a loan to. If GM or Chrysler need a loan, they need to go the bank. That's the AMERICAN way.

    Which countries polices and constitution are you wanting them to follow. #gm
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    05:09 PM

    @wicketr:
    Toyota and VW DID come to these Republican Senators asking for a bailout. Their bailout just came in the form of "right to work" laws and tax exemptions and friendly land deals with quasi-governmental bodies. #gm
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    04:55 PM

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    It's no longer a free market economy when the government owns the players, right? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding something here.

    Hey look, a puppy wagging its tail! #gm
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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    04:50 PM

    In reply to Why Do Republicans Hate American Automakers?
    It pretty much boils down to this simple fact. If it's a democrat sponsored bill, republicans must oppose it. If the republicans can get GM to fail now, they think that they will be able to say "we were right, I told you so."

    Personally I disagree with the idea of "too big to fail". Every company needs the threat of failure to be competitive. There is no incentive to change a failing business model if you can rely on a bailout.

    I don't have high hopes for GM. I think they should've been allowed to go bankrupt and be restructured. However boycotting them now is ridiculous and downright unAmerican! #gm
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