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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    03:24 PM

    In reply to Virgin Galactic SpaceshipTwo: First Photos
    The real question is whether I will be able to see more piggy back rides.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    03:06 PM

    In reply to Virgin Galactic SpaceshipTwo: First Photos
    Apparently, if one fuselage is good, three must be unspeakably awesome.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    02:34 PM

    In reply to Virgin Galactic SpaceshipTwo: First Photos
    Branson stated that the initial missions will focus on the transport and testing of the Positive Inertial Simulation System, noting that "Once the vehicle is unveiled, we'll focus on taking the PISS until the mission is complete."
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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    02:32 PM

    In reply to Virgin Galactic SpaceshipTwo: First Photos
    I applaud Branson for actually pulling this off, but for $200,000 I think I'd rather have an Icon A5 and a 911 to take me to and from the airport.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    02:25 PM

    In reply to Virgin Galactic SpaceshipTwo: First Photos
    Glancing at that second pic, my first scare is how far from the aircraft's centerline all the thrust is. That is an immense amount of strain on the airframe (especially that middle spar that holds the baby ship). And an open tail design, too. Looks like it should be boxed.

    I dunno...to this layman, it just seems inefficient. I grew up with a dad (aero engineer) whose main hobby was collecting and learning about the most unusual designs throughout history, and this trumps almost all of them.
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    Image of GV_Goat GV_Goat
    02:32 PM

    @Ash78, cube farmer: It does seem to defy logic.
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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    02:38 PM

    @Ash78, cube farmer: I think the center section is the actual "spaceship" and the outer section must take the whole rig up to high altitude before the centersection gets dropped and flies into outerspace (stratosphere, whatever) on its own. The pic with Branson shows no engine on the wing so I assume the thrust must be incorporated into the tail of the fuselage so I think that addresses the distance from centerline issue of yours, as for the open tail... I don't have any idea.
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    Image of SloW8 SloW8
    02:38 PM

    @GV_Goat:

    Yeah, that Burt Rutan guy doesn't know much about designing stuff... You should call and give him some pointers.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    02:43 PM

    @SloW8: Voyager had a closed tail and centerline thrust (the latter applies to almost everything else he does, too, including homebuilts).

    I've been a fan of his since the mid-80s, but this is just weird. I'd love to read more of the details once they come out.
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    Image of GV_Goat GV_Goat
    02:47 PM

    @SloW8: Not really my point. Mr. Rutan has the credentials, to be sure. I was just reflecting the sentiment that it looks counter-intuitive. I am sure the structural engineering models will say otherwise.

    That said, it's not how I'd design my tree house.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    02:49 PM

    @SlowMo : I personally would have imagined a wing with a throughspace for moving between fuselages, maybe even a wide flying wing with a single tail. My bet is that the design is a simple fusion of two pre-existing airframes to save cost.
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    Image of Number_Six Number_Six
    02:51 PM

    @Ash78, cube farmer: I think the weirdest thing would be sitting in the fuselage away from the pilot, watching nervously across the open space, hoping he/she was awake and not huffing keyboard cleaner or something.

    /overactive imagination + control freak
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    03:02 PM

    @Ash78, cube farmer: You do realize yer talking about the same guy that designed THIS thing, right?
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    01:57 PM

    In reply to The Worst Car-Related Tiger Woods Jokes On The Internet
    Like they say, " The harder you hit, the harder you fall."
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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    01:53 PM

    In reply to The Worst Car-Related Tiger Woods Jokes On The Internet
    The guy does not look like Tiger Woods.
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    01:52 PM

    In reply to The Worst Car-Related Tiger Woods Jokes On The Internet
    This is all wrong. He was SUPPOSED to crash a brand-new SRX.
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    Image of Sloop_John_B Sloop_John_B
    01:23 PM

    In reply to The Worst Car-Related Tiger Woods Jokes On The Internet
    Even in this situation, I'd still rather be Tiger Woods.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    01:22 PM

    In reply to The Worst Car-Related Tiger Woods Jokes On The Internet
    Ugh. Some of these don't even pass the Jim Breuer laugh test.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    02:08 AM

    In reply to Chrysler Hires Italian Agency To Make This Crappy Car Ad With Taxpayer Dollars
    Talks about Freedoms. Needs more Dubya.

    But not too terrible an ad, as long as it's not being aimed at us Americans. Would confuse the hell out of my next door neighbors.
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    Image of SuzanneD SuzanneD
    12/06/09

    In reply to 14 Things To Do At The LA Auto Show
    I was stone cold sober and "touch the Mustang" still made me giggle.

    Also another fun way to pass the time: enjoy the complimentary booze supplied by the various luxury automakers.*

    *only available to working members of the automotive media. Suck it, plebes.
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    Image of gunluva is prepared to drop. gunluva is prepared to drop.
    12/05/09

    In reply to Daughter Of Resigned GM CEO Attacks New GM CEO On Facebook
    Uhh... what the shift am I looking at, here?
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    Image of DrLemming DrLemming
    12/05/09

    In reply to Chrysler Hires Italian Agency To Make This Crappy Car Ad With Taxpayer Dollars
    It's an unconventional approach, but given Chrysler's dismal state, why not try something different? RE: What else can they quickly pull off the shelf?

    The question is whether American car buyers give a rip about anything outside their borders. Most probably don't. However, Fiat needs to rebrand Chrysler as a source of internationally flavored cars, and this is a quick and easy way to start changing perceptions.

    Matt, as a taxpayer, my primary concern is getting Chrysler back on its feet. If it takes a foreign ad shop to do it, what's the problem? The Americans had their chance and blew it.
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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    12/05/09

    In reply to 14 Things To Do At The LA Auto Show
    Things To Do At The L.A. Auto Show

    #15 - - Leave, and walk a few blocks to the original Pantry Cafe and have lunch at an L.A. institution. Never closed in over 70 years, even during wartime. Cash only. Not for the calorie counter or health food nut with OCD. Besides, a little fresh air will do you good before you go back to the show for Round 2.
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