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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    10/21/09

    In reply to Toyota FT-86 Concept: The AE86 Is Back In The Red, Metallic Flesh

    Now it's Perfect. #toyotaft86
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    10/21/09

    @bmoreDLJ: I see that symbol every time I stand at a urinal. #toyotaft86
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    10/21/09

    In reply to Toyota FT-86 Concept: The AE86 Is Back In The Red, Metallic Flesh
    The in-dash display shows some variation of Fuji speedway? #toyotaft86
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    10/21/09

    In reply to New Honda CR-Z Concept Steps Closer To Production, Gets Manual Transmission
    I've noticed this and the SkyDeck concept share the same schnozz...if this is the future corporate grille of Honda, I'm all for it; not because it's particularly attractive, but because it's consistent. Honda is all over the friggin' place with their disjointed designs right now. #hondacrz
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    Image of Decisive Decisive
    10/21/09

    @bmoreDLJ: I don't see why you have to have all of the cars from a single brand look exactly the same. For me I reference music albums or paintings by the same artist. Creating a design identity is nice, but having all of your paintings look the same is rather boring. In the case of an album, I find the ones that are very singular stylisticly to feel like filler, while albums that incorporate different styles are rather fun to listen to over and over again well into the future.

    Conformity within a brand should only be important when your product does not have enough panache and soul to stand on its own and therefore must rely on the mother brand to be noticed. That is the problem with most cars is that they lack soul b/c they are so monotonous. Despite the criticisms of the Challenger and other American muscle cars, they are perfect examples of cars that can stand on their own without the recognition of their original manufacturer. A good example of failure is the GTO; no soul in that design... #hondacrz
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    10/21/09

    @Decisive: My favorite lines...Audi, Cadillac, Nissan/Infiniti, Peugeot/Citroen...they're all quite conformist from top to bottom. Which is how I likes it. You're right in that not only does Honda strive for difference with their models, but even their marketing is individualistic in style from model to model. Just personal preference. Nice analogy to music albums, though. #hondacrz
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    Image of avconsumer2 avconsumer2
    10/21/09

    In reply to New Honda CR-Z Concept Steps Closer To Production, Gets Manual Transmission
    What?!! A hybrid with a butt-ugly ass?!!?! (no pun intended) WEEEIIIRRRD!?

    Seriously, is there a rule that hybrids have to have aesthetically horrible rears? Does ugly increase efficiency exponentially somehow? #hondacrz
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    Image of Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car! Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car!
    10/21/09


    @avconsumer2: It's called a kammback, they do it for aerodynamic purposes, unfortunately, nobody has figured out how to make it attractive since the Daytona coupe. #hondacrz
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    10/21/09

    @Psiu! Puxa!: You're right, Mopar or no car!: Opel once had some nice Kamm tails. #hondacrz
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    Image of avconsumer2 avconsumer2
    10/21/09


    @Psiu! Puxa!: I stand edumacated... but still... yeesh. Also... I'd forgotten (guess it's been quite a while since I've seen one,) the heritage - to obviously include the CRX. (der) #hondacrz
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    Image of zerofritz zerofritz
    10/21/09

    In reply to Toyota FT-86 Concept: The AE86 Is Back In The Red, Metallic Flesh
    Trite of me to mewl, but how come no full-on side shots? does your camera only shoot 3/4? #toyotaft86
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    10/21/09

    *zerofritz thumbs through a pr0n mag* Ummm, where are the photos of people with clothes on? #toyotaft86
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    Image of suzq044 suzq044
    10/22/09

    @zerofritz:
    ehm.. you didn't look at all of them?

    [jalopnik.com] #toyotaft86
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    10/22/09

    @suzq044: touche - i guess it was too small to see. #toyotaft86
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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    10/21/09

    In reply to Toyota FT-86 Concept: The AE86 Is Back In The Red, Metallic Flesh
    I'm warming to the idea of a 370z that isn't made by Nissan, if that's what this is, but this is right on the verge of being a sorority girl's car. It all comes down to the specs - are they just going to pop in a 2.5l Camry engine into it and call it a "sporty" car, or will they actually give it some get up and go? #toyotaft86
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    Image of Unregular Unregular
    10/21/09

    @weatherman: if i have been following along correctly, it's getting a 2.0L boxer engine from subaru that puts out ~200hp.

    Ben! HOW MUCH DOES IT WEIGH?!?! #toyotaft86
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    10/21/09

    @Unregular: oh, thanks - I musta missed that. 200hp puts it squarely in sorority girl territory though, which is a shame. #toyotaft86
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    Image of Fat Tire Fat Tire
    10/21/09

    @weatherman: Around here, sorority girls drive V6 mustangs, jettas, and new beetles. Hopefully they dont like boxer motors. #toyotaft86
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    10/21/09

    @Fat Tire: V6 mustang = 210hp. Granted the Mustang is probably a heavier car than this Toyota, but still it's in the same class. #toyotaft86
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    10/21/09

    @weatherman: really depends. on weight, driving dynamics...

    RWD is sorority girl? #toyotaft86
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    Image of jp182 jp182
    10/21/09

    @weatherman: much heavier. Also, I would hope that they keep it out of the WRX/Lancer Rally price range. #toyotaft86
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    10/21/09

    @jp182: It better be cheap if it's the spiritual successor to the Cerica. #toyotaft86
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    10/23/09

    @weatherman: This is a strike back against Hyundai, that's what it is. I bet that specs and pricing are toe to toe with the turbo Genesis. #toyotaft86
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    10/21/09

    In reply to New Honda CR-Z Concept Steps Closer To Production, Gets Manual Transmission
    The CR-X was one of the best-handling FWD cars of its generation. How can the CR-Z match this by both weighing more and hauling around chunky battery pack? How can it match even the Civic Si? Why not hybridize a practical car, like the Element, a car that desperately needs to get better than 25 mpg? Or the CR-V? Both of these could benefit from some low-rpm torque.

    The only one that makes sense is the 2nd-gen Insight, and apparently that car is a dud. #hondacrz
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    10/21/09

    @brandegee: Just like the RSX matched the handling of its older and lighter predecessor, the Integra.

    It can be done, and with few exceptions (T230 Celica, Cobalt SS), all of the best-handling FWD cars carry the Honda badge. #hondacrz
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    Image of MR42HH MR42HH
    10/21/09

    @brandegee: The CR-V doesn't need a hybrid - it already comes with a very good modern diesel.
    Stick the diesel into the element and I'd be interested - I like the weirdness of it. #hondacrz
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    10/21/09

    @MR42HH: In the U.S. it gets a single motor, the 2.4 gasoline version. It's got plenty of power for most purposes, but for just 166 hp the mileage isn't great. #hondacrz
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    10/21/09

    @pauljones: True, if anyone can make a fine handling FWD hybrid, it would be Honda. But just drive a Civic Hybrid and a Civic Coupe (not even an Si!) back to back and it's amazing the difference between the two cars. One is fun and one is not.

    I'm just questioning Honda's mission with this car.

    As for style, I'm really liking it. #hondacrz
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    10/21/09

    In reply to New Honda CR-Z Concept Steps Closer To Production, Gets Manual Transmission
    Done right, they won't be able to build enough of them. I'm quite pleased that it occurred to somebody manufacturing cars that 'Hybrid' does not necessarily have to mean 'soul-sucking appliance.'

    ...granted, we'll have to wait and see how this actually pans out. #hondacrz
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    Image of cgarison cgarison
    10/21/09

    In reply to Toyota FT-86 Concept: The AE86 Is Back In The Red, Metallic Flesh
    Can I get this in a stripper model with the base boxer motor and then start prepping this thing for driving on mountainous back roads in WV and eastern KY. It sets a little low to handle Culp Creek through Greenup Co. KY. #toyotaft86
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    10/21/09

    In reply to Toyota FT-86 Concept: The AE86 Is Back In The Red, Metallic Flesh
    Fine design. Purposeful, not too derivative. Relatively simple. A tC without the tease. Too bad it's not a hatchback. Also too bad that many will be subjected to a dubs, tint, and wing treatment. #toyotaft86
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/21/09

    In reply to New Honda CR-Z Concept Steps Closer To Production, Gets Manual Transmission
    Man, I'll be happy when the angles and seams era of auto design passes.

    BTW, I love you all this morning. Must be Jalop Valentine's Day. #hondacrz
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    Image of takeshi takeshi
    10/21/09

    @Alfisted: Seem dubious to assume that the next set of design fads are going to be better... #hondacrz
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/21/09

    @takeshi: I expect that we'll see a move toward more organic forms, which suits me fine so long as everything does not end up looking like a Prius. #hondacrz
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    Image of Decisive Decisive
    10/21/09

    In reply to New Honda CR-Z Concept Steps Closer To Production, Gets Manual Transmission
    A fun hybrid eventually had to happen. There is nothing inherently wrong with hybrid systems as a mode of creating power for your vehicles. What is a shame is with the addition of a hybrid system you raise the price of this vehicle several thousand dollars putting it out of market for people looking for fun and cheap transportation. If Honda could just ditch the battery and offer this in an EX trim or Si, I think the ricer crowd and college students would have something they could really enjoy! #hondacrz
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment Edited by Decisive at 10/21/09 8:07 AM Decisive was starred Decisive was unstarred
    Image of Novaload Novaload
    10/21/09

    In reply to New Honda CR-Z Concept Steps Closer To Production, Gets Manual Transmission
    The front looks great; when are they going to finish the back? #hondacrz
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    Image of YankBoffin YankBoffin
    10/21/09

    In reply to Toyota FT-86 Concept: The AE86 Is Back In The Red, Metallic Flesh
    It's great to finally get a solid sense of scale. It looks petite, and for that I am thankful. #toyotaft86
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    10/21/09

    In reply to Toyota FT-86 Concept: The AE86 Is Back In The Red, Metallic Flesh

    This panel gash is quite odd. I wonder what it's function is beyond debris collection. #toyotaft86
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    Image of LS1RX7owen LS1RX7owen
    10/21/09

    @YankBoffin: thats one of the 99 places they saved a little weight. #toyotaft86
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    10/21/09

    @YankBoffin: It's to help boost sales in cotton swabs. #toyotaft86
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    10/21/09

    @LS1RX7owen: The fiber diffuser was another? #toyotaft86
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