Pros: It's a 1972, so it doesn't have the federal porch bumpers. It's not as woefully smogged down as the later years. It also has the clean, elegant bird logo on the header panel, instead of the horrid serrif-font "T H U N D E R B I R D" letters that replaced it later.
IF you fancy having a 6th-gen T-bird, THIS, and ONLY this year, should be your target.
Cons:I have a '75 Mark IV in approachable / comparable condition to this T-Bird. The MarkIV is (arguably) better looking, more distinctive, more representative of "the times", and more sought after.
VerdictThat said, I wouldn't spend $7,000 on a standard Mark IV, so this T-bird doesn't have a chance at that price.
Edited by that ain't the way to have fun, son at 09/21/09 11:11 AM
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Monday mornings are tough on the eFMV (patent pending) WOPR-like computer. The tubes seem to take a little longer to warm up after sitting all weekend, and it isn't unusual to reboot the OS a few times to get all the switches to cooperate.
Speaking of switches, this car is the first eFMV Crack Pipe vote in a while. Two other early-70s Thunderbirds were found on eBay with an average price of $4900. Tack on $1500 for modifications (that console and the sub apparently count according to the computer) and you are left with a fair market price of $6400.
I say $7250 is too much. Too much brown. Too much car. Too much CIDs. Too much money. Pass the pipe and make sure it's loaded with the good stuff.
It's a Thunderturd! I like it, and the price isn't too high, leading me to believe that a stack of benjamins adding up to somewhat less than his asking price could put it in my driveway. Especially if I let him keep the subs and amps that are taking up the precious dead hook- err, golf club space in the trunk.
Edited by Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. at 09/21/09 10:50 AM
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Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was unstarred
The price of admission is too high to do the one thing that would make this cool - maintain that roofline all the way to the rear bumper for a shooting brake with 300 lb. doors.
I like it, probably because us Europeans know nothing about particular American cars. But it looks truly American and that's kinda cool, it has a V8, and I'd picture wafting intercity in that beast of a car. And, heck, no need to spend anything on restoration, that seems like a good deal to me!
That said, I would welcome a brief education into American car history. The landmarks, the do's and the don'ts. The products of the Malaise. etc etc etc. (The one below is surpisingly good for the T-Bird)
Thunderbird had been on a slow decline since 1967. Any pretense at sport had long been abandoned, and the new-generation '72s were nothing more than big, soft cushmobiles with bland, almost anonymous styling. The distinctiveness of previous 'Birds was gone, and these admittedly good-selling Thunderpigs were far less interesting than any of the '72 GM personal luxury coupes.
According to the Encyclopedia of American Cars (2006), the standard engine in the '72 Thunderbird was a 429 with 212 hp. The optional engine was a 460 with 224 hp. The 429 would vanish for 1974. From 1969 to 1976, nothing smaller than the 429 was offered in the T-bird.
I call Crack Pipe. There are problems here. I hope this car doesn't really have 999,999 miles on it. The engine isn't specified and that boom stereo has to go. For $7250, you can find any number of nicer and more distinctive luxocoupes - Eldorados, Mark IIIs, boat-tail Rivieras, pre-'71 Toronados, pre-malaise Grand Prix, pre-'72 T-birds, and so on. Pass this one by.
I like this generation Thunderbird, But then I like brown paint, love big smooth cars and don't really care for the rough ride of a sports car. Maybe if you give the seller back his hokey audio setup, he will take a few thousand off the price.
But the brown paint has to go, along with the sofa/loveseat interior. With the right attention lavished upon it, it could actually make a fairly striking custom or low rider. The problem is that that kind of attention would cost anywhere from $15-$20k, at which point you would still have an early Malaise-era Thunderbird that is still only worth about $4k, and then only to someone that likes what you did with it.
There are better cars to be spending that kind of money on.
Crack pipe. I might drop that kind of dough on a nicely massaged blown 'bird from the 80s. But to dip into my cocaine funds for this gigantic disco ball? Man, do you need to ask?
No way.
And lay off the native american jokes. My wife is Cherokee, and if you piss her off, she'll mess you up.
09/22/09
Not crack pipe, but instead, forty-dog.
09/21/09
IF you fancy having a 6th-gen T-bird, THIS, and ONLY this year, should be your target.
Cons:I have a '75 Mark IV in approachable / comparable condition to this T-Bird. The MarkIV is (arguably) better looking, more distinctive, more representative of "the times", and more sought after.
VerdictThat said, I wouldn't spend $7,000 on a standard Mark IV, so this T-bird doesn't have a chance at that price.
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Still, 8 MPG is tough to take, even with pump price approaching $2.14 here in the obscure areas of D/FW.
I think these had sequential turn signals, but that's not enough to save it from hittin' the pipe.
09/21/09
Speaking of switches, this car is the first eFMV Crack Pipe vote in a while. Two other early-70s Thunderbirds were found on eBay with an average price of $4900. Tack on $1500 for modifications (that console and the sub apparently count according to the computer) and you are left with a fair market price of $6400.
I say $7250 is too much. Too much brown. Too much car. Too much CIDs. Too much money. Pass the pipe and make sure it's loaded with the good stuff.
Can I borrow a light?
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Its = possessive
It's = it is
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That said, I would welcome a brief education into American car history. The landmarks, the do's and the don'ts. The products of the Malaise. etc etc etc. (The one below is surpisingly good for the T-Bird)
09/21/09
According to the Encyclopedia of American Cars (2006), the standard engine in the '72 Thunderbird was a 429 with 212 hp. The optional engine was a 460 with 224 hp. The 429 would vanish for 1974. From 1969 to 1976, nothing smaller than the 429 was offered in the T-bird.
I call Crack Pipe. There are problems here. I hope this car doesn't really have 999,999 miles on it. The engine isn't specified and that boom stereo has to go. For $7250, you can find any number of nicer and more distinctive luxocoupes - Eldorados, Mark IIIs, boat-tail Rivieras, pre-'71 Toronados, pre-malaise Grand Prix, pre-'72 T-birds, and so on. Pass this one by.
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But the brown paint has to go, along with the sofa/loveseat interior. With the right attention lavished upon it, it could actually make a fairly striking custom or low rider. The problem is that that kind of attention would cost anywhere from $15-$20k, at which point you would still have an early Malaise-era Thunderbird that is still only worth about $4k, and then only to someone that likes what you did with it.
There are better cars to be spending that kind of money on.
Crack pipe.
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No way.
And lay off the native american jokes. My wife is Cherokee, and if you piss her off, she'll mess you up.