@egoods: Exactly... Sure the Evo's a real cracker of a car for some but with a transverse engine in the front sending torque through right angles more than once, it smells of econo box mediocrity.
I just don't feel it's right. It's a high-tech pig, a tough yet ugly wild boar!
@LandofMinos, Prediction, probability of procuring a poncy Prius for purchase. Piss off!: I will jump across this internet and smack you upside ya head! But seriously, have you driven the new SHO? I have, and I have to say, it's quite sporty. S'all I'm saying is don't knock it until you've tried it. Or at the very least if you're going to knock it go for the weight issue, not the drive train or engine. #mobsteel
@egoods: Unfortunately mate, I'm on the other side of the planet so driving a Taurus would be a little hard. I have driven the Australian spec Toyota TRD Aurion which was quite fast and enjoyable, but it's more expensive and more of a handful (torque steer) and slower than a RWD Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo. I once drove a Mitsubishi Magna (Diamante) AWD but was left wanting (also with torque steer issues).
My distaste of FWD and transverse front engines comes from being an Australian where true Aussie cars are RWD and big six or eight spinning it's crank longitudinally. Actually back in the 90's, Ford US had the crazy idea to sell the Ford Taurus in Oz with the prediction that it'll eventually replace the Falcon. "It's a large car too, Australians won't know the difference" they cited.
Well typical large American company execs who think the consumer needs to be told what they want, were a little confused as to why the Taurus flopped. They just didn't or wouldn't accept that the average Aussie consumer did not want a FWD econo-box, "how can you do burnouts and circle-work with that piece of shit?" we'd say while the American exec would just blink mindlessly somehow not taking in reality. #mobsteel
@LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard: Alright, I'm coming there to smack you, just for the fact that you live in the land down under... and get to drive all the awesome muscle cars that WE CAN'T FREAKIN GET HERE WHY!?!?!?!??!? Anywho, expect to feel the sting of my pimp hand in the next 24 hours. #mobsteel
@64deville: and you obviously have no children, or do not take "ridiculously" long road trips....
i, personally, love the sound of the road, open windows, no A/C, stops only for fuel, etc...... but come on... child entertainment makes things much easier now-a-days... we no longer have rear facing 'back-back' seats (the perfect platform for puppet shows)... you've got to give them something.... come on... #mobsteel
@günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi: I agree, although if those headrests don't 'tilt', I'm not sure any kids will be able to see their Little Einsteins episode - unless they're 7' tall toddlers. #mobsteel
@Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe): whoah whoah whoah whoah whoah.... you mis-understood me....... if the kids can watch dvds or play video games... then good for them. i think they can deal with a bit of screen glare or motion blur.... i'd rather them watch the landscape go by, learn to identify cars (the way i did), or entertain the other family trucksters as my brothers and i did.. out the windows w/puppets.... #mobsteel
@64deville: i'm in your passenger seat ... i have no kids... am not married... but i do depend on conversation and music (or NPR) to make the road trips 'fun'when i do have guest w/me on the trip... we entertain ourselves.... wheter it be music, audiobook, road-games, whatever the case may be...all of my road trip memories include my parents trying to discuss 'stuff'.. whether it was personal/family issues or NPR/political stuff....being able to entertain the kids seems to be a good thing... #mobsteelwow... i did horrible at my normal grammar standards..... not going to bother fixing it...
@günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi: I think I understood... I was just pointing out that the headrest screens were angled in such a way as to render them unviewable by anyone who is shorter than 6' tall. :) #mobsteel
Conan will stop calling it the "corral," and start calling it "the ranch."
Too bad it weighs so much. Too bad it's so damned big.
Tight end speed, but linebacker build. Forget it. I mean, I really like it what with the juicy engine and really great performance numbers, but I can't see saddling myself with all that extra mass.
@Adamskiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiy: I don't have any memories of the first SHO, but I was watching TV with my dad the other day and he pretty much let out the biggest WTF when the new commercial called it the "Show." Now I don't know what to call it; SHOW like the advertisements or S H O like the old one.
Don't replace the old one, Conan, keep it and accept the new one. If they're not fulla shit, i.e. no strings attached. No Cash for Clunkers here, hang onto your old steed. I mean, why give up something that suits you just fine? Hell, it's YOURS.
If Ford told me to give up my '66 F100 in return for a brand new F150 I'd laugh at them. Seriously. That's how much I like my truck. Suits me just fine.
@underwear-ninja: I think that dark green and the almost identical dark blue were the only colors they actually produced. Anything else had to be a dealer option.
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You can't put lipstick on a mid-size FWD pig and whore it out. That's just wrong.
What are you going to do with 400HP though the front hoops, defy Isaac Newton?
No, you'd drive everywhere constantly feathering the throttle less you mitigate the sidewalk of pedestrians, light poles and trees. #mobsteel
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I just don't feel it's right. It's a high-tech pig, a tough yet ugly wild boar!
I make no apology. #mobsteel
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My distaste of FWD and transverse front engines comes from being an Australian where true Aussie cars are RWD and big six or eight spinning it's crank longitudinally. Actually back in the 90's, Ford US had the crazy idea to sell the Ford Taurus in Oz with the prediction that it'll eventually replace the Falcon. "It's a large car too, Australians won't know the difference" they cited.
Well typical large American company execs who think the consumer needs to be told what they want, were a little confused as to why the Taurus flopped. They just didn't or wouldn't accept that the average Aussie consumer did not want a FWD econo-box, "how can you do burnouts and circle-work with that piece of shit?" we'd say while the American exec would just blink mindlessly somehow not taking in reality. #mobsteel
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tv screens in headrests are ridiculous. tv screens in cars are kind of stupid in general unless you're hauling one to a tailgate party. #mobsteel
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i, personally, love the sound of the road, open windows, no A/C, stops only for fuel, etc...... but come on... child entertainment makes things much easier now-a-days... we no longer have rear facing 'back-back' seats (the perfect platform for puppet shows)... you've got to give them something.... come on... #mobsteel
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I do take long road trips but the radio and conversation has been enough in the past.
Maybe I'll understand when and if I ever have kids. #mobsteel
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Been driving foreign iron too long I guess.
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The front end looks better, though. #mobsteel
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Any pics of the front end from a little further away? #mobsteel
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@flim: Yep - the thing looks MUCH better from this angle... #mobsteel
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Too bad it weighs so much. Too bad it's so damned big.
Tight end speed, but linebacker build. Forget it. I mean, I really like it what with the juicy engine and really great performance numbers, but I can't see saddling myself with all that extra mass.
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If Ford told me to give up my '66 F100 in return for a brand new F150 I'd laugh at them. Seriously. That's how much I like my truck. Suits me just fine.
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