I am currently trying to restore a Turbo Sprint (G10T baby!), and I tell you, the engine is by FAR the strongest part of the car. No matter how abused, after being parked for five months, starts up on the first turn of the key.
heh, ive got a built 3cyl in my 91 suzuki swift. its got aftermarket everything, and runs over 22psi. has a new 8500rpm rev limiter and a standalone ecu. and makes nearly 4x the stock horsepower.
Yaknow, if you joined a three cylinder G to a four cylinder G, you'd have a unique powerplant. I'd love to be able to tell people my car was powered by a Straight Seven engine!
I'll bet that's one of the lightest car engines made in the last three decades. I always thought that a Geo Metro 3-cylinder or a Daihatsu 3-cylinder would make a pretty rockin' engine for a Seven. That's my dream car, probably another dream that will never come true, but who knows?
The big deal in Sevens these days involves huge high-performance engines that turn it into a death-trap supercar that only skilled race drivers can handle, but the original Seven came with a 40 HP flathead Ford and was intended for amateur car nuts to have fun in.
@wkiernan: I have long dreamed of dropping the 1200cc 4 cylinder from a mid-nineties Triumph motorcycle into a Spitfire. 145hp, would move the 1750lb Spitfire pretty well. It would actually be lighter than that after the swap.
Plus, it would still be all Triumph, sort of.
Of course, this will have to wait until after my current projects are done.
@wkiernan: Hm, now I'm thinking I'll throw my Prius's existing powertrain into a Seven, somehow, after I install the V8. Torque On Demand, pushing two-thirds of the weight? Hells yeah!
Of course you would need to turn the entire engine and transmission sideways so that the halfshafts run fore and aft to two differentials, allowing for Full-Time Hybrid All-Wheel Drive™. The 50-50 torque split might not be the best for handling though.
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How many engines can you think of that were available in both three- and four-cylinder form?
Well, there is one that I can think of off the top of my head. The first generation of John Bloor's Hinckley built Triumph motorcycles had a modular engine design that was available in 900cc (883) 3 cylinder version that was used throughout the model range, and they also offered a 4 cylinder that they used in the Trophy 1200, and Daytona 1200 models.
I had a buddy whose Civic came with a four cylinder, but was later available only as a three cylinder. And my parents had a V8 Cutlass that only worked as a six cylinder. All this was about the same time as the V8-6-4, but they never achieved equal notoriety.
@skitter: When my dad was younger and still had his '69 440 powered Charger, his grandfather told him that he would probably get better fuel mileage if here were to disconnect a bank of cylinders. That's not quite the point of having a 440 Charger, thought my dad.
@CaveTroll: I was actually just reading up on cylinder deactivation, and had a 'duh' moment. Perhaps counter-intuitively, all valves are left closed. Et voila: no pumping losses. Sure, there's compression, but the air acts as a spring and you get the energy back. Meaning, also counter-intuitively, that a Jake brake doesn't just hold the valves closed, but releases compression at the beginning of the power stroke. This also means that, the oiling is beefy enough, the mechanisms are already in place to have a Jake brake on, say, a Honda Accord Hybrid.
@diesel W123's don't die: Unless you're driving down a nice canyon road, shitty tires screeching in protest and numb electric-assisted steering offering zero feedback, and the brakes are attempting to overheat.
@diesel W123's don't die: "Regenerative braking" doesn't actually use the brakes at all -- the friction from the electric motor (operating backwards, as a generator) is enough to slow the car quite a lot, and after that point the standard brakes kick in. This is why you'll see Priuses on the same brake pads for 100,000 miles.
@FP - tittin' and shittin' with Tomsk: Hey, I've had my fair share of fun with southwestern Virginia's mountain roads! Stability control may have saved my ass more times than I care to admit. I only went four off once!
One of the backroads that parallels I-81 near Christiansburg used to be very good for near-death experiences. One curve in particular, if taken at more than the suggested speed limit, had a nasty habit of leaving the Gutless Calais facing the wrong direction in the middle of the road.
Now I'm getting all nostalgic for my then-roomate's E28. *sniff*
@Kapitän Lebertransplantation: After I was chased at high speed by a Ram 1500 for a solid 20 miles down a road that almost positively intersects that which you have just described, I avoided the back roads for a couple months, and then I ended up leaving the area. Hopefully next time I'm there I'll have a Corvette or at least an IS300...
Ah, being chased by local rednecks...all part of the SW VA experience. The roommate and I, whilst breaking in his new '96 Integra, were briefly harassed on those same backroads by a trio of aggro rednecks...in a Cadillac Cimarron.
@Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable:Well four of them connected together would give you a nice tri-turbo twelve cylinder. So that would enough to make it go
There's a guy here in town who scavenges the junkyard for Geo Metro engines (that's this one, right?) for installation in glorified hanggliders.. he made the local news last summer when he (prophetically?) nosedived into the lake.
The Austins are pretty boring, but the Rileys are quite valuable. That Lynx tourer is very cool. Never heard of a Swift...the Willy Overland is also cool but so little of it left it's pretty much parts.
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its effing sweet. 3cyl ftw!!
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Seriously, though, what did these produce? Like 50hp? That would be enough for a semi-deadly go kart...
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The big deal in Sevens these days involves huge high-performance engines that turn it into a death-trap supercar that only skilled race drivers can handle, but the original Seven came with a 40 HP flathead Ford and was intended for amateur car nuts to have fun in.
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Plus, it would still be all Triumph, sort of.
Of course, this will have to wait until after my current projects are done.
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Of course you would need to turn the entire engine and transmission sideways so that the halfshafts run fore and aft to two differentials, allowing for Full-Time Hybrid All-Wheel Drive™. The 50-50 torque split might not be the best for handling though.
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I have drien a 550cc version of the Suzuki Hatch. Not sure if it had the G engine, but it was a 3-cyl, and it was pitiful.
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Well, there is one that I can think of off the top of my head. The first generation of John Bloor's Hinckley built Triumph motorcycles had a modular engine design that was available in 900cc (883) 3 cylinder version that was used throughout the model range, and they also offered a 4 cylinder that they used in the Trophy 1200, and Daytona 1200 models.
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"What's that?"
"That's the neighbor lady coming down the hill."
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Yeah, that never happens with hybrids.
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Only once? Where's the fun in that?
One of the backroads that parallels I-81 near Christiansburg used to be very good for near-death experiences. One curve in particular, if taken at more than the suggested speed limit, had a nasty habit of leaving the Gutless Calais facing the wrong direction in the middle of the road.
Now I'm getting all nostalgic for my then-roomate's E28. *sniff*
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Ah, being chased by local rednecks...all part of the SW VA experience. The roommate and I, whilst breaking in his new '96 Integra, were briefly harassed on those same backroads by a trio of aggro rednecks...in a Cadillac Cimarron.
You really can't make this shit up.
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Any takers? I'll chip in the $80 I have left for beer and the eventual hospital bill.
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By English countryside standards, this is quite a tidy garden.
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