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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/12/09

    In reply to EXCLUSIVE: First Look At Ford's 6.2-Liter V8 Engine...In A Houston Garage?!
    This in a rear wheel drive converted 1984 or 1985 Ford Tempo two-door would be something interesting. I've seen a big block Ford stuffed into one ('85 GL Coupe), but nothing modern (or 1994+ for that matter). #raptor
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    Image of Jes St.Lawrence Jes St.Lawrence
    11/12/09

    In reply to EXCLUSIVE: First Look At Ford's 6.2-Liter V8 Engine...In A Houston Garage?!
    "their nondescript and hard-to-find shop in a commercial strip around the corner from a Chinese buffet for almost five months"

    That's Houston all over, as if designed by a cartographer with tourettes. #raptor
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    11/12/09

    In reply to EXCLUSIVE: First Look At Ford's 6.2-Liter V8 Engine...In A Houston Garage?!
    where's skaycog when you need her? think of this in a GT...... #raptor
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/12/09

    @günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi: What, what, what? Did someone say GT? Wow, that is some engine, isn't it? I think I'll stick with the 5.4-liter engine. Thanks for thinking of me! ;) #raptor
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    Image of günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
    11/12/09

    @skaycog: aww come on, no replacement for displacement and all...

    though.. i guess they way they have the 5.4 crammed in there it'd take a lot of re-engineerding to do... and why mess with something that works so well already. (you're quite welcome nudge nudge ;) #raptor
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    Image of PowerTryp, Starless wonder. PowerTryp, Starless wonder.
    11/12/09

    @skaycog: You're right to stick with the 5.4L it's lighter and with the internals package all you need to do is turbo the thing and you're pumping out over 1000hp. #raptor
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/12/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.:

    There again, 550hp is probably more than enough for me. When I get one, we'll go on that drive off into the sunset. #raptor
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    11/12/09

    @skaycog: Awe you remember. #raptor
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/12/09

    In reply to EXCLUSIVE: First Look At Ford's 6.2-Liter V8 Engine...In A Houston Garage?!
    I know what I want for Christmas.

    Honey, get the big stocking down from the attic!

    What drives the timing? Belt or chain, or be still my heart, gears? (Yeah, I wish). #raptor
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    11/12/09

    In reply to EXCLUSIVE: First Look At Ford's 6.2-Liter V8 Engine...In A Houston Garage?!
    and now i want to buy a crown vic or grand ma for an engine swap other than the 5.4L #raptor
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    Image of Sloop_John_B Sloop_John_B
    11/03/09

    In reply to More Power! Ford SVT Raptor Gets Upgraded 6.2-liter V8 For 411 HP
    FoMoFoCo. Ford just put the MoFo in FoMoCo. Ford appears to be making steps in the right direction. #fordraptor
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    11/03/09

    In reply to More Power! Ford SVT Raptor Gets Upgraded 6.2-liter V8 For 411 HP
    An extra 91 horses for 3 grand is a very good deal. Not to mention the extra smiles and hoonage per gallon. #fordraptor
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    11/03/09

    In reply to More Power! Ford SVT Raptor Gets Upgraded 6.2-liter V8 For 411 HP

    What is it about this truck that makes it so, so beautiful? There is something about the design that is simple and American. Something that reaches into the lower levels of testosterone production and calls out for more. But, there is more to this simple, yet exciting design. I think it something that says, "this is all a truck needs to be", yet it provides more. Maybe it brings back memories of when trucks were trucks and not over bloated cars (I'm looking at you Honda). It's hard to put a finger on it. Simplicity like the Ranger, maybe? I don't know. #fordraptor
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    11/03/09

    In reply to More Power! Ford SVT Raptor Gets Upgraded 6.2-liter V8 For 411 HP
    That's M3 power and AMG torque. In a dirt truck. With huge dirt tires. In the desert. What can I say but, WOW! #fordraptor
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    11/03/09

    In reply to More Power! Ford SVT Raptor Gets Upgraded 6.2-liter V8 For 411 HP
    Me.Want.One.

    And I don't even like trucks that much to begin with. Drool! #fordraptor
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    11/03/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Same here. Hauls ass and groceries. Only thing I am disappointed that it doesn't come supercharged or turbocharged. But 411hp is fine. #fordraptor
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    Image of NilesStonne NilesStonne
    11/03/09

    @Mozoltov: But just think of what it can do once you add the supercharger or turbocharger... #fordraptor
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    11/03/09

    @NilesStonne: 1000hp, 1100ftlbs. 11 second quarter mile. #fordraptor
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    10/09/09

    In reply to An SVT Raptor Tire Weighs How Much?!
    Or we could just put the shitty tires and shitty rims from my ma's Silverado on them and see what happens.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    10/09/09

    In reply to An SVT Raptor Tire Weighs How Much?!
    It's polite to include a link to the original post.
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    10/09/09

    @Mad_Science: Particularly if you're going to straight-up copy their last line:
    [blogs.insideline.com]
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    Image of JalopyPixellatedViscera JalopyPixellatedViscera
    10/11/09

    @Mad_Science: Terrible form, Ray!
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    Mad_Science promoted this comment JalopyPixellatedViscera was starred JalopyPixellatedViscera was unstarred
    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    10/12/09

    @Mad_Science: Oh, see, we normally do link. In fact, we love showing our readers cool stuff on the web even if it's not ours.

    It's just we thought "no link" is the new link etiquette these days from Edmunds given their recent non-linkage to us on our stories:

    [www.insideline.com]

    I give automotive outlets the same respect on links that they give us. When they don't respect our stories enough to link to us -- even quoting us -- we won't respect their stories enough to link to them.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    10/12/09

    @Ray Wert: I give automotive outlets the same respect on links that they give us. When they don't respect our stories enough to link to us -- even quoting us -- we won't respect their stories enough to link to them.

    Kudos!!
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    10/12/09

    @Ray Wert: I'd say there's a difference between a press release that you somehow had an exclusive on and original content like the Edmunds walkaround. Particularly given that it's their picture.

    You still have no excuse for copying their last line.

    Also, there's this whole concept of taking the high road, being the setting the better example. Just a thought.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    10/12/09

    @Mad_Science: I disagree with you on both counts.

    For starters, it wasn't a press release. We interviewed him. The quote from our Q&A is just as much a product of our hard work as their sentence is.

    Secondly, if we'd taken the low road we would have run the story sans credit. Edmunds gets credit on this. In fact, we give them credit fully above the jump on our front page. They gave us credit too. Buried a bit, but they still gave it to us.

    You see, we're not arguing that they stole our story. We're arguing that if they want links where credit is given, they need to do the same with us. That's called being fair.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    10/12/09

    @Ray Wert: Fair enough on the Press release Vs Interview. That's roughly fair tit-for-tat that they excerpted your quote and you grabbed their picture without a direct photo credit.

    Your line of argument here suggests to me that you intentionally created the post as a response to them picking up on your exclusive Delorean thing without a link.

    I still contend that taking the high road and being the better man is preferable to sinking to the levels of others.

    That's all debatable, but the big one for me is:
    They end with "lift with the knees" and you do the same. No quotes, no attribution. You put this forward like it's your own clever idea.

    From a creative integrity standpoint that's pretty weak.
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    10/12/09

    @Mad_Science: No offense, but I think you're seriously overreacting. The "lift with the knees" line is so trite as to be incapable of original attribution and unworthy of any other kind of attribution. It's no different with ending a weather story with "hot enough for ya?"
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    10/12/09

    @snapoversteer should STFU because: I admit that it's small, but it's like when your friend copies some joke or something that you just delivered. It's just not cool.

    As far as making a big thing out of this, I observed that Ray didn't put a link over to the content he was referring to and pointed out that he copied the line. He brought up the not-linking pissing match justification.

    ...and since I keep harping on taking the high road and I'm not into abusing dead equines, I'm checking out of this little debate.
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    10/12/09

    @Mad_Science: It's fish dicks 2.0
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    Image of IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE!
    10/09/09

    In reply to An SVT Raptor Tire Weighs How Much?!
    I thought the 31x8s on my 4runner weighed a shit-ton... (and that was stock tire & wheel)

    Metric shit-ton BTW...
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    10/09/09

    @IN THE FACE!: Then that would be shit-tonne.
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    10/10/09

    @HoonThatFerrari: But I wasn't using the Queen's English.
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    Image of cyanics cyanics
    10/09/09

    In reply to An SVT Raptor Tire Weighs How Much?!
    the 31x10.5x15s on my pathfinder weighed in around 100lbs. It was a bitch to get them mounted when you had a spare. At nearly 10x that weight, that is an utter joke. I mean, even 300lbs is well above most people's lifting capacity. Ford better crank out an onstar service pretty quick, or there will be alot of pissed off dead people in the middle of the desert.
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    Image of kolorfast kolorfast
    10/09/09

    @cyanics: *cough* decimal point *cough*
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    10/09/09

    @kolorfast: Those darn low-resolution monitors, huh? lol

    "Hey, Triple-A??? Yeah, I'm out here stuck with a flat - can you send a tow truck... and a truss?"
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    Image of hypo - now with more avatar! hypo - now with more avatar!
    10/09/09

    In reply to An SVT Raptor Tire Weighs How Much?!
    Don't care. It could weigh 300 lbs and be filled with unicorn tears, as long as the truck drives the way everyone says it does I still want.
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