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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    07/15/09

    In reply to Lamborghini Planning A LP550-2 Superlegerra?
    Good God. So what warp factor would this be capable of then?
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    07/15/09

    In reply to Lamborghini Planning A LP550-2 Superlegerra?
    It's probably just me, but these new Lamborghinis just don't do anything for me. The original, awesome Lamborghinis such as the Miura, Countach, and Diablo were awesome spectacles of RWD sports car engineering that would just as happily kill their drivers as lap a track. They were also known to start only when it suited them, randomly quit when it suited them, and spontaneously combust at will.

    Sure, they were dangerous cars. But that is what made them so cool and so interesting. It took a real man to so much as open the doors of these cars, let alone drive and master them. They were the Hemingway of sports cars. Pure, visceral, testosterone-filled exercises in existentialism.

    And then they "refined" Lamborghini with the introduction of the Murcielago and Gallardo, and then VW went one step further in increasing production costs so that every wannabe Hollywood douche and Kim Kardashian could have one.

    And now they release the Balboni (terrible name, btw), and potentially this, and market them as being sports cars that are "exclusive", "wild", and "dangerous"?

    There is nothing especially exclusive about them. There may only be 250 of them to begin with, but that will change as soon as they start selling, at which point they will be built in even bigger volumes, to the detriment of those who initially bought them. "Wild" and "dangerous"? Sorry kids, but it takes more than a pretty face to dance and capture the imagination of pubescent boys.

    What happened, Lamborghini?

    You've turned into the Nordstroms of sports cars. You sell expensive stuff that you claim is wild (but isn't), and then have sale after sale, but only after you ridiculously jack up your prices, just as you release a car that is wild only compared to its much tamed contemporary brethren (but a total pushover compared to its illustrious predecessors).
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    Edited by pauljones at 07/15/09 9:42 AM pauljones was starred pauljones was unstarred
    Image of Mobius Mobius
    07/15/09

    @pauljones: Maybe because dead drivers aren't the best advertisement for your cars.



    But then again, nor are burning cars.



    Or maybe it's the Audi/German-ness that make their cars, well, better cars, but worse supercars.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    07/15/09

    @Mobius_1000_Club: Apparently it worked for a guy trying to sell a green Rover.

    Besides, if I buy a Lamborghini, I want a Lamborghini. I want a car where the salesman advises me that there is a 67% chance the car won't start right away, a 58% chance that it will randomly stop running, a 32% chance that the car will try to kill me, and an 18% chance it will randomly burn itself to the ground on any given day, but there is always 100% chance of awesomeness everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

    Dammit, I want a Lamborghini

    These new, post-VW ownership Lambos just don't offer that.
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    07/15/09

    @pauljones: What happened to Lamborghini was a family of purists got bought out by a giant multi-national corporation who have to answer to shareholders. Every decision is tempered by that all consuming need to constantly bolster the bottom line.



    Gone are the days when you could make an insane sports car in your tractor shop and bring it to market with every dime invested in making it a better car. Now it's all about safety and regulations and appealing to as wide an audience as possible rather than going after the niche enthusiasts.



    Dammit pauljones! I was in a great mood before coming across your comment. Now I just want to take over the world so I can save Lambo from themselves.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    07/15/09

    @pauljones: The car you are looking for is a Koenigsegg. Or maybe a Caparo T1. A Pagani Zonda F ZR Prosciutto di Parma might also work.



    Lamborghini is just far too buttoned-down these days. The company that gave the finger to Ferrari, stole BMW's money, went 180 mph on 60 Minutes, told Gandini to shove it, eschewed slushboxes (mostly), and made the Jota no longer exists.
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    07/15/09

    @brandegee: Amen. Lamborghini is dead. Practicality killed it.



    I think that because car making is no longer a blank instructional book that the engineers are going to write as they build their cars, but rather a book that's now filled and tells them how to do exactly what to make what component behave in exactly what way, and all for a certain price, and lasts a certain number of years. Sure it's imperfect, but it's, for all intents and purposes to us enthusiasts, too close to perfect. An engineer can no longer do something world-breaking with a car. It is no longer an art, but an exact science. And science is no fun.



    What's more, it is only logical to make a car better than the one before it. And now, after decades of hooning and honing, the car is so competent, it's become painfully boring. No longer can one be excited driving down a country road, no longer does one need to stay awake and concentrated to drive to the shops, no longer is driving beyond the speed limit a death sentence to the driver and every single passenger.



    It's over. Cars simply cannot be both competitive and exciting without being overwhelming (unless you are Michael Schumacher). Let's all build scramjet-powered ekranoplanes until that becomes boring.



    Amen.
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    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    Now that's one fat arsed bitch!
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    All it needs is a Holly in a fur bikini and Chaka and that'd be the Garage of the Lost.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    That 70s breakdown picture could easily be me and The Missus if we were 30 years older.


    That's about the only reason I can think of to want to be 30 years older.

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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    Well Peter- you're new, I appreciate your honesty about your wrongheaded antiwagon bias, I've really enjoyed your articles thus far, and this car is undeniably cool- but, "ultimate station wagon"? Let's see:


    *Backwards-facing third seat "Observation Lounge"? Nope.
    *Vista Cruiser roof? Nope.
    *Fauxwood paneling? No again.


    Not to mention the deplorable lack of roofrack and Harvest Gold and/or Avocado Green paintjob..


    In short, you are wrong.

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    Image of Peter Orosz Peter Orosz
    05/06/09

    @V16Valiant: I think a proper Italian carrozzeria like Touring will cater to every one of those need. With barely a twist of the nose.
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    05/07/09

    @Peter Orosz: Would Touring really deign to paint a creation of theirs in avocado green?
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    05/07/09

    @brandegee: Okay, maybe that's a Bertone job. Maybe!
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!
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    Image of LuciferV8 LuciferV8
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    I could swear I saw wheels like that on some boxy 80's Chevy wagon.
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    Image of Number_Six Number_Six
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    Why the hell can't I change my screen name? Cinco de mayo is over!
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/06/09

    @Numero_seis: MWAHAHA. Join the club! I haven't been the same since the Ash Wednesday! (Well. I have been. Exactly the same, but with no name changey powers)


    Pleaaase Pete! Give us our name changing powers back!

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    Image of Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    SWEET CHRIST!


    A MIURA.. in the same space as a Quattro Wagon!


    Damn.


    I mean... D A M N!


    I bet.. the dude paid upwards of 300k for this motha. I'd like to see the interior. Prob has more leather / cow in THAT interior than every MCDS in a 5 state radius.


    Bet it has a V-12.


    And I bet.. the guy doesnt even hit over 60 in it..


    Man.. *drools* WOW.

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    Image of .357 .357
    05/06/09

    @Accords went loco, killed Camry and Malibu.:

    I KNOW...


    Isn't it AWESOME?


    He...probably is pretty damn RICH


    I...THOUGHT... I would try... your writing STYLE.

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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/06/09

    @.357: Watch out. You could start a thing here, and all that'll be left of you will be...


    KNW...


    sn't t WSM?


    H...prbbly i prtty dmn RCH


    ...THGHT... wld try... yr wrtng STYL.

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    Image of .357 .357
    05/06/09

    @Pessimipposaurus: Tht wld sck.
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    .357 was starred .357 was unstarred
    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    05/06/09

    @.357: I TOO.... have BEEN trying to GET A.... HANDLE ON YOUR unique STYLE


    I NEED TO.... MAKE A macro that randomly


    INSERTS SPACES and .... dots AND


    TURNS MY caps ON and off at ...random INTERVALS


    joking aside i kind of agree with what you said

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    Image of 1dollar93 1dollar93
    05/06/09

    @Jo Schmo Especial: I smell a Jalopmeme.
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    Image of Captain Liverspots Captain Liverspots
    05/06/09

    @All of the Above:


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    Image of .357 .357
    05/06/09

    @1dollar93: A JALOPmeme?

    That...WOULD be great

    By the way... Accord I... am... just... KIDDING.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    05/06/09

    @1dollar93: Its possible.


    I SEEM TO CREATE THOSE...

    from time... to time


    WITHOUT...


    REAllY trying

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    Image of .357 .357
    05/06/09

    @Major Liverfailure:

    I... wasn't REALLY trying to

    START A MEME...

    I WAS just trying... TO BE ACCORD...
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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    05/06/09

    @.357:


    Hmmm...

     Reply
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    05/06/09

    @.357:
    MAYBE... I SHOULD... CHANGE MY NAME.... TO


    JAMES ACCORD.... KIRK


    oh sweet jesus thats not possible because the DAMN GAWKER HAMSTERS WONT LET ME....

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    Image of .357 .357
    05/06/09

    @Jo Schmo Especial: I WOULD...HAVE changed... IT... to... ACCORD Holding a .357 To His Head.
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    05/06/09

    @.357: I think...that random spaces...gives more suspense...to what your...writing...however I also makes you sound like...you have some sort...of internet...tourettes..
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    Image of .357 .357
    05/06/09

    @Baron Schm Von Shamwoüzen has swine flu: I understand. Some people do that...FUCK

    I just don't understand why...SHIT
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    Image of Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face
    05/06/09

    @.357:


    I know you'd like to be like me..


    But its a thought process.


    YET no comments about the car... nice.

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    Image of Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face
    05/06/09

    @.357:


    I normally dont just insert random curse words.. unless Megan is involved...


    Or more hatred from GM comes out...

     Reply
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    Image of .357 .357
    05/06/09

    @Accords went loco, killed Camry and Malibu.: Hey, man your the master, I'm just the apprentice. When I said it was AWESOME, I meant the car and your writing style.

    Seriously don't stop with your CAPITALS and elipses... It's pretty interesting.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/06/09

    @Accords went loco, killed Camry and Malibu.: You're either going to be very happy, or very angry to be here.
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    I can see why your not so enamored with wagons, Mr Orosz. But let me try to put into words why many of my fellow commentators love wagons so much.


    You live in Europe, land of multitudes of wagons, hot hatches and little diesel engines. Mercedes E200 CDI Estates are a dime a dozen as taxis. The SUV is the odd-man out, and it is representative of exclusivity to most of the European populace. When they see an ML or an X5 parked on the street, it conveys a major sense of wealth without looking like a driver for hire.


    However, in America, things are different. People drive big, petrol powered monsters, and quite frankly, that's fine. Different strokes for different folks, I'm all about the free market. But the overreaching point is that since Range Rovers and Mercedes MLs are at prices almost equal to most luxury saloons (In fact, in America, the base price of the 09 E350 estate is 15K MORE expensive than the ML350), and gas is/was sort of cheap. SUVs loose their exclusivity, their uniqueness.

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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    Huh, I didn't know the rebel base on Hoth had a parking garage.
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    Image of Peter Orosz Peter Orosz
    05/06/09

    @Skunky: There's one on the Alien planet LV-426 too: [jalopnik.com]
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    Image of Braff Braff
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    time to break out the old shop from last time this was shown:


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    Image of Brady Butterfield Brady Butterfield
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    Szia Mr. Russian. I love the hungarian point of view. Thanks for the excellent Euro perspective. I'll have to buy you a drink down on Vatzi Utza sometime.


    B

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    Image of Number_Six Number_Six
    05/06/09

    @Brady Butterfield: Hey, I used to live on Lonyay Utca!
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    Image of Peter Orosz Peter Orosz
    05/06/09

    @Numero_seis: Ha, it's becoming a proper Budapest sub-thread here.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    05/06/09

    In reply to Maserati Quattroporte Bellagio Fastback Touring: The Ultimate Station Wagon
    Peter, if you are going to deride the station wagon, at least deride it for the right reasons. Such as, "The station wagon, more than any vehicle, is a frivolous exhibition of baby making potency."
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    Image of Peter Orosz Peter Orosz
    05/06/09

    @engineerd: You know, I'm kind of worried what'll happen if I end up having three kids down the line-and no more seats in the Espada.
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