I'd love it if this mule actually had the profile of what will become the real SVX-redux, but I'm probably a bit optimistic. It seems lumpy and odd, but that's what makes a Subaru a Subaru, traditionally. Lumpy and odd. #subarucoupe
Fast driving, done well, can look very slow and boring. Most buyers will appreciate that all the scary tendencies have been dialed out by higher performance tests than these will ever see on public roads in civilian hands.
But I did notice a couple of squirelly moments. Without a pro driver, that could easily turn into a lurid spin or crash. Still a little work to do... #subarucoupe
@MushyHeirloom: Same for me. There used to be people who lived around the corner from me who had an Alfa sedan, and there are a couple Spyders, but other than that they are crazy rare. I think living in the States has something to do with this, too.
@MushyHeirloom: There are several nice late-model Spyders around here. I saw a really well-kept Milano on the road a few weeks back and managed to resist the urge to follow it so I could shake the owner's hand.
@gman1023: You're right, I take that back - in the US, in my lifetime. I saw more Alfas, Citroens, and other oddities in two weeks in Scotland than I ever expect to here.
@jaymcminn: Cool! If you see it again, try to get photos?
@MushyHeirloom: I'm pretty sure I've never seen a roadgoing Citroen in the flesh. A few Renaults and Peugeots used to be around, but those are crazy rare nowadays. There is this place near me that has a gaggle of Merkurs, both Scorpios and XR4Tis. It's tough to tell from the road, but it appears there are at least 6 of them, and I've only ever seen 2 cars running from that place. Sounds like the appropriate ratio.
@ferric oxide: I was wondering the very same thing. Maybe it got some token number of BS laps and made them up? Maybe the team had a really good bribe? Perhaps the Saucy Minxâ„¢ will tell us in her own sweet time...
Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was starred
Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was unstarred
@ferric oxide: Subie parts sell for surprising amounts of money. Could very well be a $1000 car that they were able to sell, and document, $500 worth of unnecessary crap.
@ferric oxide: I've looked through some CL and ebay Imprezas (the 93-01 model) not one under 3 grand, but the parts are indeed also very expensive...
still suspicious
The current STI has 305hp and for $695 you can have 340hp (93 octane). So I don't see the big deal. Yes its a tad lighter and as always has the 2.0l JDM motor compared to the 2.5l motor we get in the US. It just seems like a very minor change in output.
This doesn't quite upset me as much as what Subaru did to all of the 2008 WRX owners. In 2008 they changed the body style completely to what you see now. They kept the same power specs from the previous (2007) WRX. In 2009 Subaru they decided that they were going to screw everyone who bought an 08 for the new body style and completely revamp the engine increasing it's power output significatnly. I almost bought an 08, thank god I didn't. There's a good chance that it would have mysteriously found itself parked halfway in the new car showroom, building collapsing around it.
@Cognitive Friction: I asked the same question back in 1993 when cars were being advertised as having hollow carpet fibers to save weight. All I could think was "If this is important to you, take the carpet out."
@Cognitive Friction: A person could save quite a bit of weight with lighter windows. I know that if you switch from glass to a polycarbonate like Lexan or Plexiglass that you cut the weight of that window in half. So let's say the windows all told weight 100 pounds (a fair guesstimate), if you cut that in half (using thinner glass, not a polycarbonate), that's a fifty pound weight difference. That's a pretty huge difference. Windows are an easy place to shed weight (especially without having to do a whole lot of retooling in a production setting), hence why they did it...Or so I'm assuming.
@OldeEnglishD: i have a ghost roaming the halls of my ancient victorian mansion. she has flowing robes and a skull head and stringy hair and drags chains around - hides behind doors and such.
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OOH, it looks nice, unique, new, and something a bit different.
OTOH, the rear end looks super simplistic and square as the old scirocco's, and the front is just... Ach!
Impreza FT86, purely on the looks! #subarucoupe
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On the other hand, I like the idea, and hopefully with both Toyota and Subaru taking a crack at it, one of them will get it right. #subarucoupe
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NEWS FLASH: Toyota FT86 prototype spotted at local mall. Action shots of parking maneuvers at Costco captured. #subarucoupe
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But I did notice a couple of squirelly moments. Without a pro driver, that could easily turn into a lurid spin or crash. Still a little work to do... #subarucoupe
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Now, a Subaru Brat on the 'Ring... Now I'd wanna' see that. Actually, I'd wanna' ride in that. #subarucoupe
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(Keep in mind that I was born during G.H.W. Bush's presidency, and that's probably why.)
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@jaymcminn: Cool! If you see it again, try to get photos?
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still suspicious
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I don't care if they get this fancy model I will take the base model and throw a better turbo on it and be done with it.
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Focus RS? No.
Fiat 500 Abarth? Maybe.
Fiesta ST? Don't hold your breath.
Astra VXR? No.
Renault Megane RS.R? Absolutely not.
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Were the old windows really weighing the car down?
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I think it was the Toyota Supra, IIRC.
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STI Spec Cs do, because they're fast...
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doesn't scare me as much as this beast.
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