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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/08/09

    In reply to Subaru Legacy GT Spec.B Tows F-150
    Lockers all 'round locked T-case w/one locked & one open diff good AWD locked T-case & open diffs FWD with traction control limited slip RWD one wheel drive.

    Methinks this F-suckfifty is the last one, so it beats a skateboard...in the snow.

    The above flowchart of suckiness ranking varies according to conditions.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/08/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son: Damnit.

    My pointy parentheses didn't appear in my post. I forgot...html coding.

    Well, try this:

    "Lockers all 'round } locked T-case w/one locked & one open diff } good AWD } locked T-case & open diffs } FWD with traction control } limited slip RWD } one wheel drive."
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    Edited by that ain't the way to have fun, son at 12/08/09 3:27 PM that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    12/08/09

    In reply to Subaru Legacy GT Spec.B Tows F-150
    You call that snow? Someone needs to tell these people to grow a pair, move to AK, stimulate our economy, and when they get back to the Lower 49s they won't ever bitch about snow again.

    Similar situation here a few days ago. Only it was the Subaru Outback getting itself royally stuck (twice) and the Ford Tempo rockin' through the snow, dragging ass the whole way and still making it.
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    Image of scottcom36 has Weekday DT's, Weekend OD's scottcom36 has Weekday DT's, Weekend OD's
    12/08/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: According to this source Bangor gets almost 30" more snow than Anchorage. What am I doing here?
    [www.weatherbase.com]
    [www.weatherbase.com]
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    12/08/09

    @scottcom36 has Weekday DT's, Weekend OD's: I've been to Maine. Its super warm there.
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    12/08/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: warmer than AK? Yes. But temperature alone does not dictate snow fall.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    12/08/09

    @JawzX2: Hoon The Earth @ www.cafepress.com/jawzx2: It does however make keeping an older machine running near impossible. Combine this with snow (that doesn't melt at all during the winter, *cough* New England) and you've got problems.
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    Image of Bobby Scarano Bobby Scarano
    12/08/09

    In reply to Subaru Legacy GT Spec.B Tows F-150
    Looks like you guys found my video! This is what happens when your roommate is from North Carolina and you're currently living in Maine. What a fun morning this was! It just reassured me that I made the right decision in selling my GTI and buying the Subaru for Maine! Enjoy guys...
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    12/08/09

    In reply to Subaru Legacy GT Spec.B Tows F-150
    Perfect timing. I popped the LGT's snow cherry this morning. The jury is still out as to whether I'd rather be driving it or the Cherokee under those conditions.
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    12/08/09

    In reply to Subaru Legacy GT Spec.B Tows F-150
    The beauty of pwn-wheel-drive.
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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    12/08/09

    In reply to Subaru Legacy GT Spec.B Tows F-150
    .....and at 0:19 the F-150 gained traction and smashed into the trunk of the Subaru, totaling it.
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    Image of YankBoffin YankBoffin
    12/08/09

    @Uncle Bo: That worried me, too. The owner posted above and mentioned nothing of the sort, so I guess it all worked out.
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    Image of Bobby Scarano Bobby Scarano
    12/08/09

    @YankBoffin: Everything worked out fine. Once we got to the top of the hill he backed off the gas. My neighbors were outside shoveling and all came over to watch the whole thing. It was a pretty proud moment for the Roo. It was my first winter with it so I was extra happy.
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    YankBoffin promoted this comment Bobby Scarano was starred Bobby Scarano was unstarred
    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    12/08/09

    In reply to Subaru Legacy GT Spec.B Tows F-150
    My truck is 4wd, and last year, the actuator* went out. I was parked in the yard, and wound up spending over a half hour trying to get it out of there. Rocking it back and forth, digging around the ruts with a shovel, wedging lengths of plywood under the tires. Nothing worked.

    The chains from my lawn tractor came to the rescue. Not that they would fit the truck, but just chucking a pile of chain under the front of the tires worked beautifully.

    I've replaced the actuator, so it shouldn't be a problem this year, but I've got the chains at hand just in case.

    *actuator for engaging the front axle. I have a proper manually engaged transfer case.
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    Image of MrEvil MrEvil
    12/08/09

    @smalleyxb122: What manner of 4x4 Pickup do you own? I've never heard of the axle needing an actuator, only the hubs. My F250's Vacuum actuated hubs were becoming rather troublesome when one of my front wheel bearings began wearing out. Caused major vacuum leaks in the hub. Thankfully I have manual override on them for just such an occurrence. I'd prefer if a vehicle have auto-lockers that it have auto lockers like my '92 Explorer. They work great, only drawback is having to move forward or reverse up to 10 feet to get them disengaged.
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    smalleyxb122 promoted this comment MrEvil was starred MrEvil was unstarred
    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    12/08/09

    @MrEvil: I've got an '88 Chevy K1500. It has a single electromechanical actuator mounted in the front differential housing.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/08/09

    In reply to Subaru Legacy GT Spec.B Tows F-150
    Don't rev it so much, it'll actually pull better.

    My younger boy turned 16 Saturday. We woke up to snow. I tossed him the keys and said, "Mom wants cocoa. We're out. You're driving."

    Kid looks out at the snow. "Is it safe?"

    "Sure. We'll take the Subie. And I'm going to teach you about 'opposite lock.'"
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    12/08/09

    @Elhigh: Perfect. The parking lot at the grocery is a great place to start.
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    Image of B1663R B1663R
    12/08/09

    @Elhigh: ... and the Cat's in the cradle with the silver spoon (sniffle) little boy blue and the man in the moon (wimper)... i'm sorry I can't go on anymore :(....
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    Image of YankBoffin YankBoffin
    12/08/09

    @Elhigh: That actually makes me want to have a kid.
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    Image of gravit8...drives with the lights on gravit8...drives with the lights on
    12/08/09

    @Elhigh: Best memories of HS : carving up the iced parking lot of Westdale mall in Cedar Rapids, IA with friends. We had lowered rwd import p/u's (mazda/nissan/toyota) but we were groomed on gravel in the summers.

    Nothing builds confidence like hitting 'deep' gravel at 80 mph, blasting along roads only used by tractors. Come wintertime, snow and ice are like a blessing for my handbrake.

    Learn rwd on ice/snow/gravel and you can drive anything, anywhere, anytime.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/08/09

    @gravit8...drives with the lights on: I can't say I've done 80 on gravel...but I have done 50. Weird thing, I was only speeding by 5mph.

    Michigan has some weird roads.

    Drop a cog and tromp the gas on a bend, the tail slides out and you skate through in Super Dorifto Style.
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    Image of gravit8...drives with the lights on gravit8...drives with the lights on
    12/08/09

    @Elhigh: Not sure what the laws are now, but back in the '90's, at least in Iowa, most secondary/gravel roads had no actual speed limit. Most were straight, and often had those nice rally-worthy hills that would drop off on one side. My truck spent more time in the air than it did on the ground =D

    Most people, when driving in these conditions, would prefer some suspension travel. We did it with about 2" of clearance from the bottom leaf spring brackets, maybe 3" of travel (slammed mini trucks, mwah). Again, nothing builds confidence like getting airborne and coming back down only to bottom out.

    I've got to terrorize the interstate here to even get my heartbeat up anymore. *sigh
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    Image of JawzX2: Hoon The Earth @ www.cafepress.com/jawzx2 JawzX2: Hoon The Earth @ www.cafepress.com/jawzx2
    12/08/09

    @Elhigh: good man. One must know how to properly manage a sideways AWD vehicle... I love winter driving my my V70 AWD ;)
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/08/09

    @JawzX2: Hoon The Earth @ www.cafepress.com/jawzx2: Sorry - I was referring to driving my truck on Michigan's gravel highways.

    The Sube makes it stupid simple, mostly just point-and-click.
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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    12/08/09

    In reply to Subaru Legacy GT Spec.B Tows F-150
    Two wheel drive trucks are useless in the snow without weight in the back and real aggressive rear tires. They may be macho, but they're still useless.

    I live at towards the end of a dead end road (no surprise there) and you have to drive up a hill to get to the main road. I live downtown and they don't plow my road under normal circumstances. It's only a block long.

    Every year idiots drive down that hill in frame high snow then turn around and try to go back up and get stuck in front of my house. I no longer have pity for them and will drive around them if necessary.
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    Edited by mytdawg at 12/08/09 8:05 AM mytdawg was starred mytdawg was unstarred
    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    12/08/09

    @mytdawg: I used to have a RWD truck, but I also knew better than to do stupid shit that would get me stuck. Needless to say, I never once got it stuck.

    ...but I have also never lived on a road that didn't routinely get plowed, either. That helps a lot.
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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    12/08/09

    @Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp: Michigan is so broke that they routinely only plow after the snow has stopped falling now so they only have to make one pass. My road isn't a priority and they only plow it after a storm now. So usually there is a layer of ice under 6 - 8 inches of snow cone crap. It's very nice. My 1995 4WD S-10 has 110,000 miles on it. Winter (and hauling dogs) is it's raison d'être.
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    Image of tiddo tiddo
    12/08/09

    @mytdawg: I drove a RWD 87 Dakota long-box for years here in Calgary and it never let me down in bad weather, probably because it had a manual, it had proper truck tires (LT, not P), and it always had at least a couple concrete sidewalk pavers and sandbags in the bed. Along with all the snow it accumulated. Miss that truck. Also, I'm not an idiot. I think.
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    Image of PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287
    12/08/09

    @mytdawg: Had a 94 F-150 lightning. 351 Windsor, 2wd, P275/60-17 Z-rated tires. Dealing with the icy snow of the Northeast I threw about 800 pounds in the bed and could manage, but I had to avoid hills like it was my job, esp. living on top of a quasi-mountain.

    Taught me to be a better foul weather driver though. Any mistake and that truck gave me a heart attack.

    Lots of fun in the dry though.

    That said, I wouldn't have even bothered in the weather in that video. I would have taken my 98 ZX2, much better snow car. Manual, no-abs, small, narrow tires, as long as it had tread I could go anywhere.
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    mytdawg promoted this comment PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 was starred PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 was unstarred
    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    12/08/09

    @tiddo: I have trouble crossing an icy intersection in the S-10 in 2WD and I've got BFG AT's on it.
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    12/08/09

    @PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287: Lightnings look pretty sweet but it's gotta be kind of like a V8 Mustang in the snow. Squirrely.
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    Image of tiddo tiddo
    12/08/09

    @mytdawg: But see, ice is the great equalizer; without studs or extreme caution nothing handles well on ice. Even my Impreza gets hairy on ice.
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    Image of PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287
    12/08/09

    @mytdawg: Squirrelly is what it is in the rain. Terrifying is what it is in the snow. 800 pounds of sand in bags over the axle, two 17 gallon tanks of fuel filled to the brim, and a plastic Jesus on the dash. That was winter in that car.

    It was common for Lightning owners who used them as daily drivers to have 1980s subcompact cars parked somewhere nearby come October. Find a cheap beat-up one for around $400-500 and reason that it costs less than the insurance deductible. Sell them for around the same amount come the spring. Repeat.

    There's no way I would have owned that truck when i lived in MI or MA. In NJ I was only inconvenienced about 4-5 days a year and even then, most people didn't go out on those days anyways around here, so it wasn't a problem.
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    Image of Xelmon Xelmon
    12/04/09

    In reply to 2010 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Special Edition: Because "Antidisestablishmentarianism" Was Taken
    Mmm, very pretty.

    So, where's the diesel?
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    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2010 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Special Edition: Because "Antidisestablishmentarianism" Was Taken
    Longer name: Shelby GT500 Super Snake Las Vegas Motor Speedway 427 Limited Edition. There's another aftermarket S197 with an even longer name but teh brain is failing me.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2010 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Special Edition: Because "Antidisestablishmentarianism" Was Taken
    With the added rear stiffness, you would expect a real world difference resulting in (hopefully) less understeer. I say win!
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    12/03/09

    In reply to 2010 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Special Edition: Because "Antidisestablishmentarianism" Was Taken
    Longest? Not the Subaru Impreza World Rally X Subaru Tecnica International Specification C Type Record Attempt - Radical?
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    Image of PowerTryp is holding a Fiesta party. PowerTryp is holding a Fiesta party.
    12/03/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: The SIWRXSTISCTRAR for short.
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    snapoversteer 'bout to get told promoted this comment PowerTryp is holding a Fiesta party. was starred PowerTryp is holding a Fiesta party. was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2010 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Special Edition: Because "Antidisestablishmentarianism" Was Taken
    Sorry, but it doesn't beat my 1995 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham d'Elegance for either name or overall length.

    Though the Spec-C cited earlier, gets my old ride by four characters.
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    12/03/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son: 1984 Oldsmobile Ninety Nine Regency Brougham FTW!
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/03/09

    @VeeArrrSix:

    Damnit.

    Clicky for you. Funny, those were on the identical chassis. In fact, I'd wager the doors were interchangeable.

    Ah...when "instruments" consisted of a long, wide, 85 MPH speedometer and a fuel gauge which, if it moved, meant you had fuel and when it stopped moving, you were out (or had filled up in the last 100 miles).
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    12/03/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son: Mine was one of the last to roll off the line over at Fisher Body before they became Lansing Body Assembly for GM. It has some cool door sill plates that say "Body by Fisher" with a cool carriage logo.

    And I can't read the damn speedo for the life of me. Almost as bad as the one in my buddies '65 Volvo 122S.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    12/03/09

    @VeeArrrSix: Thanks, that dammned logo just reminded me of my long-sold 1963 ChevyII Nova400 wagon! It was no Brougham, but the rear seat folded down into a bed!
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/03/09

    In reply to 2010 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Special Edition: Because "Antidisestablishmentarianism" Was Taken
    Where Mazdas wear a cheeky, Frogeye-like grin, the Prez is showing more of a predatory I'm gonna eat you up yum yum yum leer. It's not a lascivious night of impending live porn sort of leer, it's like making small talk with Jeffrey Dahmer over beers.

    What's new with the Forester? Any word on getting the Hybrid Tourer hardware into that chassis? I might pay money for that, especially if they make it displacement on demand for cruising, too - anything to chase the mileage into the 30s.
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