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    Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?

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    Image of Daga Daga
    08/10/09

    In reply to Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?
    Epsilon II means it will likely be more of an ES350 targeted car than ginormous american limo/sedan. too bad they don't have the stones to make an LS460 competitor, which is what Cadillac really needs. Leave the ES350's to Buick.
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment Daga was starred Daga was unstarred
    Image of cgarison cgarison
    08/10/09

    In reply to Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?
    I will believe the "death to DTS" story as much as the "death to Towncar" stories from Ford. The DTS and the Towncar are fleet queens and serve a purpose with low production costs, reduced R&D amortization, and relatively high sales with near zero marketing costs. Can you say "Cash Cow?" I knew you could.
    The DTS may not have a future sitting between the CTS and STS, but it still has a future as the second running livery car and provider of OI to the new GM's bottom line.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    08/10/09

    In reply to Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?
    Cadillac, I'm fine with using the DTS name, as long as it is at least somewhat taut in the suspension/feel department.

    I really wanted the last-gen DTS, until I drove one, and it felt wrong. Not enough feedback, by a long shot.

    I long for a 400+ HP land-yacht. My I suggest the supercharged LS3? Already developed and in production. Talk to your Holden division, if you still have a long-distance carrier granting credit.
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    Edited by that ain't the way to have fun, son at 08/10/09 12:28 PM that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
    Image of TTopJohn TTopJohn
    08/10/09

    @I gotta job, I'm gonna pay the rent: I noticed a pretty substantial difference between a "Luxury" DTS and a "Performance" option package DTS - the performance spec car's magnetic ride shocks and other changes really improved the vehicle.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    08/10/09

    @TTopJohn:
    I can imagine this. The one I drove was pre-magnaride, which explains much of it.
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    Image of Ash78, tryptophanatic Ash78, tryptophanatic
    08/10/09

    In reply to Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?
    Is there any better letter to use in a car than X? I submit that there is not.

    1. It's the traditional signature of the illiterate.
    2. It represents where the treasure is located on a pirate map.
    3. Used in triplicate (or beyond), it represents BOTH poison AND the hardness of the core in pornography.
    4. When applied to the front of the word Xtreme, it provides exponential magnification of said adjective. It also holds the power to allow the rest of the word to be similarly altered in spelling (see: Xtreem)
    5. When applied to a Ford Mondeo, it conveys instant Jag status on middle managers.
    6. Sportbike manufacturers would all file Chapter 11 if it ceased to exist.

    The Motor Vehicle and The Letter X: Enless Possibilities.
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    Edited by Ash78, tryptophanatic at 08/10/09 12:11 PM Ash78, tryptophanatic was starred Ash78, tryptophanatic was unstarred
    Image of TimTim TimTim
    08/10/09

    @Ash78: When properly applied it can also speed up your coffee: Expresso
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    08/10/09

    @Ash78: This message brought to you by the letter Z.
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    08/10/09

    @Ash78: Xzibit approves of your comment.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    08/10/09

    @acarr260: Yo dawg, I heard you like Xs, so we put an X in your...
    Aw, fuck it.
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    Image of Rockford Brodie and the Masters of the Hooniverse Rockford Brodie and the Masters of the Hooniverse
    08/10/09

    @Ash78: I smell a COTD! What is this, like your Xth now?
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    08/10/09

    @Ash78: Yeah, "X" does seem to be king of the auto alphabet.

    GNX comes to mind.

    However, I vote for "Q", primarliy for sedans which are flying-under-the-radar.The first-gen Q45 embodied this pretty well.
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    Edited by that ain't the way to have fun, son at 08/10/09 4:14 PM that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    08/10/09


    @Ash78: I believe you have a point there.

    Wrong image posted in the wrong place. Nibbles! Let's try this again, with feeling.
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    Edited by Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet at 08/10/09 5:08 PM Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet was starred Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet was unstarred
    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    08/10/09


    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet:
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    08/10/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: much better
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    08/10/09

    In reply to Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?
    Why so many Sssss? I really liked the Deville name. I guess in more ways than one, that name was very "old GM".
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    Image of PetroSapien PetroSapien
    08/10/09

    @dwegmull: As I remember it, the DTS nomenclature was not altogether unrelated to the DeVille moniker. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the progression used to go from the "base" DeVille, to DTS (DeVille Touring Sedan), to DLS (DeVille Luxury Sedan).
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/10/09

    In reply to Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?
    "Additionally, the social media influencers were shown........"
    You mean people like that twatting twerp Scott Monty? Or Paris Hilton? That's hot!
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    08/10/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: I get the feeling that the twats in question have found a way to be even less relevant.
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    Image of Al Navarro Al Navarro
    08/10/09

    @FromaBuick6 Misses the Banned:
    ZING!
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    08/10/09

    In reply to Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?
    Does putting your design center in Michigan strike anyone else as a stupid idea? Somehow Turin or Newport Beach or even Wako seem like they'd be better environments for automotive inspiration.
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    philibuster promoted this comment snapoversteer 'bout to get told was starred snapoversteer 'bout to get told was unstarred
    Image of philibuster philibuster
    08/10/09

    @snapoversteer: You have obviously never been to Michigan.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    08/10/09

    In reply to Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?
    I don't think either vehicle is really a surprise, at least in concept, but the real question is, how many more years do we have to wait for production versions?
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    08/10/09

    In reply to Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?
    I bet driving one of those would make you feel like the Mayor of Simpleton.
    Wait, hold on, it's an XTS.
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    Image of Al Navarro Al Navarro
    08/10/09

    @FP - Funny how it seems quiet around here, eh?:
    [OMBUDSMAN'S NOTE: Two music reference in the first two comments. Wow.]
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    08/10/09

    In reply to Cadillac XTS Is The New STS/DTS?
    You sure that's not the Cadillac INXS?
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    08/10/09

    @beercheck - Commentin' Dirty: Well, that would certainly be a New Sensation.
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    05/08/09

    In reply to Cadillac STS-V, Pontiac G6 GXP Killed By Carpocalypse
    And there goes the Northstar.
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    Image of Bullitt417 Bullitt417
    05/08/09

    In reply to Cadillac STS-V, Pontiac G6 GXP Killed By Carpocalypse
    Bummer.. I always had a soft spot for the STS-V. Always thought it was a sharp looking car. Much better than the original CTS
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    05/08/09

    @Bullitt417: Yeah. My neighbor leased a standard STS V8 for a couple years, and while it was in the shop a few times, it was and still is a nice looking design.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/08/09

    In reply to Cadillac STS-V, Pontiac G6 GXP Killed By Carpocalypse
    Sad thing is that G6 GXP.R is a pretty winning race car, also built by the magical hands at Pratt 'n Miller. And with a wide body, it actually looks good.



    Why couldn't GM cash in on that success a bit? I swear. If anything, one of the biggest contributions to GM's failure was its deplorable PR department.

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    Image of brentil brentil
    05/08/09

    @Pessimipposaurus: It'll just turn into some other GM vehicle. The G6 GXP.R is really just the old GTO.R re-skinned as a G6. The only reason the GXP.R exists is because the GTO was killed off and they wanted to keep racing.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/08/09

    @brentil: Ala Nissan GT-R GT500, yes.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    05/08/09

    @brentil: And the GTO.R was/is a tube-frame silhouette car. Thus, I doubt it'll be terribly difficult for Pratt & Miller to have a Camaro SS.R ready for the 2010 season...
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    Image of WheatKing WheatKing
    05/08/09

    In reply to Cadillac STS-V, Pontiac G6 GXP Killed By Carpocalypse
    ARGH..


    They should have kept the STS-V and made it the same as the SLS 4.6L v8 in china..no.. you heard me right..


    The chinese SLS is BITCHIN


    [www.cadillac.com.cn]


    Check those interior shots..


    *droooool*


    Rear bucket seats.. enough wood to sails the high seas with.. ACRES of leather

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    Image of Ash78, tryptophanatic Ash78, tryptophanatic
    05/08/09

    In reply to Cadillac STS-V, Pontiac G6 GXP Killed By Carpocalypse
    Trogwort!
    The banninator!
    Banninating the land
    Banninating the peasants
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    Image of jark jark
    05/08/09

    @Ash78: And the dragon comes in the NIIIIIIIGHT!

    Oh wait that could be a double entendre on this site
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/08/09

    @Ash78: F YEAH!!!
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    Image of Ash78, tryptophanatic Ash78, tryptophanatic
    05/08/09

    @Pessimipposaurus: Kick ass.


    Lyrics composed and performed by Quattroporte Limozeen!

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    Image of Ash78, tryptophanatic Ash78, tryptophanatic
    05/08/09

    @jark: LOL!
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    05/08/09

    @Pessimipposaurus: POTD!
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