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    PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?

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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    10/19/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    If this were NPOCP, I'd take the Volvo, but a Cadillac from the 60's, in pink, wow, that would get you mad respect when you visit hell with it. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of Dan820 Dan820
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    To aid in this decision i will consult the infallible guide of celebrity ride. Volvo wagons were often loved and modified by the late great (and recently jalop-referenced) Paul Newman. Caddies were the adored ride of choice for the king himself, Elvis Presley.

    I have no desire to sing rock and roll, be know chronoligocally as the "fat" version of me or the "skinny" one, and am not fond of rhinestones.

    However, i would LOVE to become a race car driver simply out of will and enjoyment, own my own team and endorse and monopolize the tasty salad dressing market as we know it.

    So I'm gonna have to vote Volvo. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    Let me make your choice even more difficult. That Volvo was at the New England race. The guys on the team needed to install an already assembled roll cage, so they accomplished the task of installing said roll cage by slicing off the top of the wagon, and then after the cage was in, re-attached the sheet metal of the roof.

    It was the craziest Volvo I have ever seen, and it was fast as well. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    10/19/09

    @UDMan: Nobody seems to believe that 4-cylinder Volvo 240s can be fast around a race track, but they actually do pretty well. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    My heart says Volvo, but my head says...Volvo. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of TurboBrick [LIGIER] TurboBrick [LIGIER]
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    Forget the damn socialist container, I want some Cadillac, Cadillac, Cadillac style. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    10/18/09

    @TurboBrick [LIGIER]: I'm going to have to ask you to turn in your name... #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    Can I, er, have both? Oh, why yes, I can, I can check both boxes.

    I'm going to. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    10/18/09

    @MushyHeirloom: I did too. I'm wrought with indecision! #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    10/19/09

    @MushyHeirloom: This must be a new "feature" of the Gawker system. I'm voting for both as well now. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    10/19/09

    @acarr260: We've been able to do that for a while; I've done so on occasion. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of Foxieness Foxieness
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    Well, I have to say, it's certainly a tough choice.

    For any guy, anyhow, it won't be a problem with the girlfriend or wife I'm sure -- every girl loves pink wheels and leopard print anything, right? So I guess you can't go wrong with either. ;) #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    Skeg-fin Caddy FTW.

    I know of a green Coupe deVille of the same vintage for parts, even though it appears to move.

    Almost traded my '95 W124 sedan for it, even. Then commuting logic stepped in. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    The Volvo for a family? Look, unless you have more than three kids, the Fleetwood is going to have plenty of rattling-around room, not to mention a cavernous trunk suitable for leftover brats, unwanted guests, golf clubs, weapons for a small army, or a few dead hookers. It's a Fleetwood, it's got fins (both up top and below!), and it's pink. What more does anyone need?
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/18/09

    @tonyola: leopard skin #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    Caddy all the way. I don't have little kids to shame with the deceptively twee Volvo--which, let's face it, to non-Lemonites, would just be the cutest thing evah!
    So I've seen lots of cute Volvos. I don't think I've ever seen a pink racing Caddy vintage 61. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of coupeZ600 coupeZ600
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    Volvo 240? Voted just for that! #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ
    10/18/09

    @coupeZ600: I´m wondering why? Does it has to do anything with your PPCH (Personal PCH) ? #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of coupeZ600 coupeZ600
    10/19/09

    @BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ: Completely!
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    Image of mgrinshpon mgrinshpon
    10/18/09

    In reply to PCH, LeMons Cars For The Street Edition: Cadillac Fleetwood or Volvo Wagon?
    This is a no-contest- Caddy all the way. I'm sure a ton of the parts are interchangable between the 6200, deVille, etc as well as other GM cars. #24hoursoflemonsohio
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    10/12/09

    In reply to 1983 AMC Eagle: Too Far Ahead Of Its Time?
    Having taken my stock Volvo 244 down a washed-out road with a half-dozen three-to-four-inch puddles this afternoon, come to a stream, and turned around and repeated the feat back out... almost nobody needs four-wheel-drive, heh-heh-heh.

    That said, an AMC Concord that can be outfitted ridiculously like an XJ Cherokee is still, of course, awesome.

    The above photo is a forgotten local example. I hope someone with more money and skill than I have saves it.
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    Image of CptSevere CptSevere
    10/11/09

    In reply to 1983 AMC Eagle: Too Far Ahead Of Its Time?
    I knew a guy who had one of these in the mid nineties. We took that car to some pretty difficult places in Utah's West Desert, and it went to those places with aplomb. I think these used standard Jeep running gear, I know that they had straight front axles, so you could probably do interesting things to them as far as suspension, lockers, transfer cases and other standard jeepy modifications are concerned, and build one helluva competent off roader that would be unique as hell. Now, that would be fun.
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    10/12/09

    @CptSevere: Nope. No straight front axle. the front diff mounts to the engine block (believe it or not) and it has halfshafts up front with CV joints outboard and tri-pot joints inboard like a FWD car. The front diff is a Dana 30 and the rear is a Dana 40. The auto trans is a Chrysler 902, the manual is a B-W T5 and the transfer case is either an NP 109, 209, or 219. All these parts are very common across the Jeep brand in the timeframe and very easy to upgrade.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    10/11/09

    In reply to 1983 AMC Eagle: Too Far Ahead Of Its Time?
    *Sob*

    Was it ever a great car? No way.

    But it was so much of what so many other manufacturers never tried to make. Cheerfully dipping into other makers' parts bins to acquire relatively neutral components, AMC economized to the hilt when building the Eagle. That left them more room in the budget to stuff in the difficult 4x4 bits. That's determination.

    I love the Eagle. I've never been one who fit neatly into a pigeonhole. I cross genres.

    Imagine how I could cross them in an Eagle.
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