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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    I don't think the design of those angular and flattish tires is going to catch on.
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    11/18/08

    @NovaloadMissesPolar: Haha, all I could think of was "Auto Hunter cutout photo".
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    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    Okay, so it doesn't look like a Chrysler. It's got that over the Tribeca.


    Uh, yeah, I think that's it. As long as this means GM's taking the Trollblazer behind the barn, I can live with it.


    Aha! Wikipedia sez:


    The GMT360 platform and the 9-7X are not scheduled to be updated or continued after the 2009 model year. Its position in the Saab lineup was eventually to be occupied by the Subaru B9 Tribeca-based Saab 9-6X, however GM has divested its Subaru stock and 9-6X development has been cancelled. Instead, the position will be filled by the Theta-based 9-4X, a vehicle scheduled for production during the 2010 model year.


    Sounds like good news to me! Small, sporty crossover! I can live with that.

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    11/18/08

    @FuzzyPlushroom:


    Mmmm....small sporty Thera-based crossover with Saab styling and XWD...


    Actually, that sounds pretty damn good.

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    11/18/08

    @pauljones: I'm in, as long as it doesn't look like this.


    And by "this", I mean "a Murano".

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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    Okay, I admit it. I was wrong. Time to let GM die. Of all the things they could be doing... If this isn't a cry for a mercy killing, I don't know what is.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/18/08

    @Van Sarockin: I say Nardelli and Wagoner have a fight to the death; whichever of them survives, their company is allowed to pillage the other for anything they need to keep running.
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    11/18/08

    @Deartháir:


    That would make for some damn good television right there.

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    Image of rexplex rexplex
    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    I'm going to call shennanigans - do automakers PATENT their designs?
    I know that they trademark names & derivatives thereof, but i thought that patents were reserved for new & innovative products and processes. (Though GM should have the patent on the process of Badge engineering)
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    Image of sir_eccles sir_eccles
    11/18/08

    @rexplex: Yes they do. Though these aren't full patents but "design patents" which basically just cover the exact look or ornamental design of the object as opposed to the technical features.


    The design patent in question is real and can be found on the USPTO website [patft.uspto.gov]

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    11/18/08

    @sir_eccles: Just to reply to myself to point something out.


    Although published on November 4, 2008 is was actually filed June 29, 2007. So they have been floating around for a little while though not 3 years.

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/18/08

    @sir_eccles: Wow, the famous Eccles?

    You've been knighted! Well, it was just a matter of time.


    /obscure reference


    @rexplex: VW/Audi should have the patent on badge-engineering, as they're the company that actually does it right. In paying licensing fees to VW for following the process, GM should have to take classes from them on how to do it properly.
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    Image of sir_eccles sir_eccles
    11/18/08

    @Deartháir: Indeed the very same sock full of spaghetti.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/18/08

    @sir_eccles: Fantastic. Have a cardboard O.B.E.
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    Image of IDesigner loves himself some car IDesigner loves himself some car
    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    Am I the only one that thinks Saaburu should be a real company?
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    11/18/08

    @idesigner: GM should totally try to talk Subaru's parents (Fuji Heavy Industries and Toyota) into taking Saab off their hands.


    Oh, right...that would make sense and stuff. Nevermind.

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    Image of dmdukejr dmdukejr
    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    Apparently, this one was born from a C-130.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/18/08

    @dmdukejr:


    LOL!

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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    Almost kind of makes me want GM to go under...Stuff like this...What they need are cars that are going to sell and produce the capital they need to survive...stuff like this shouldn't even be a consideration right now.


    Maybe after a century of mismanagement, they'll start to turn things around.

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    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    Of course, in our opinion Saab needs a replacement SUV like a Prius needs drag slicks.


    A tubbed Prius would look awesome.

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/18/08

    @thechoop: "Saab needs a replacement SUV like a Prius needs drag slicks."


    ...is another example of how Jalopnik makes even mundane news posts about mundane products worth reading.


    Also, someone already made a Bonneville Vmax Prius...I don't see why a drag Prius could be much stupider than that.

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    Image of Al Navarro Al Navarro
    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    AAAARRRRAAAARRRGGHHHH!!!


    This is just one example of things I just don't get about the car industry, the American variety especially.


    If someone wants what a Tribeca offers, can't they just buy that?


    Or are these the same folks who can't vote for a black man?

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    11/18/08

    @Al Navarro:

    I should read the initial posts more closely. I thought GM was going to brand this as a GM product, not a Saab product.


    Though more appealing than the 9-7x/Envoy, I still don't like it.

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    11/18/08

    @Al Navarro: Haha,funny & probably very true. Nice one.
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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    Its a bad idea for several reasons:


    1) Nobody needs another crossover.

    B) The same reasons the 9-2x was a bad reason, nobody's gonna pay 20 grand more for a Saab that is identical to a Subaru.

    III) I don't have a third point.

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    Image of layabout layabout
    11/18/08

    @wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx: Don't forget reason g) It looks crap.
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    Image of superveloce superveloce
    11/18/08

    @wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx: From what I recall the 9-2x was only slightly more expensive than the Subaru version but it was also better equipped, had better interior materials and sound insulation. I'm not sure where you got $20k as a price difference, but that sounds completely unlikely.Saab desperately needs new models, and the Tribeca is a great car, just not quite a looker, so this might sell well.
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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    11/18/08

    @superveloce: So 20 grand more is an overstatement, as the 9-2x was only 3 grand more than the Subaru back in 04, but I'm sure this car would sell for more than 3000 more than the Tribeca if produced. And really, the Tribeca is already outfitted pretty well, so how much more upscale could it get? And its already pretty expensive, starting at around $37,000 or $38,000. Are there really that many people that are going to buy a Saab version of the Tribeca? Saab does need new cars, but I don't think this is it.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    Um...okay. I see nothing to make fun of here. The Tribeca is a great little crossover. If GM can leverage it's platform, I see no reason why it shouldn't, so long as it does a little more to differentiate it from the Subaru than it did with the 9-2X
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    Image of SuzanneD SuzanneD
    11/18/08

    @pauljones: You must be new here, there's always something to make fun of.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/18/08

    @SuzanneD: Including each other, I gather :p
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    11/18/08

    @pauljones: It's one of the rules ;)
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    11/18/08

    @layabout: I'm definitely feeling the love, here :)
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    Image of SuzanneD SuzanneD
    11/18/08

    @pauljones: I didn't intend for my observation to be insulting, Jalopians usually reserve their vitriol exclusively for cars. Although in the case of the Nissan 350Z/Infiniti G37, the hatred is felt equally for the car itself as well as the douchebags that are prone to drive it.


    So no hard feelings my friend, just wanted to let you know that most of us utterly loathe new cars as much as we completely worship old ones.

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/18/08

    @SuzanneD:


    I didn't take it as insulting at all. I was just teasing back. :)


    Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/18/08

    @SuzanneD: Jalopians usually reserve their vitriol exclusively for cars.


    And the editorial staff. Don't forget them.


    Oh, and the British. Damn those British. Always so... well-mannered. They're up to something, I tell you.

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/18/08

    @Deartháir:


    So well-mannered that we won't even notice it when the moment at last arrives for them to conquer the globe with their quirky, sardonic humor and their amusing little antics involving cars and something about limes. Lots of limes.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/18/08

    @pauljones: Wait wait, "little"?
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/18/08

    @FuzzyPlushroom:


    LOL, hey man, when Clarkson manages to roll a Toyota Camry Hybrid, come talk to me :p


    It still boggles my mind how that moron managed that; the whole rocket car thing was completely understandable, and it was a huge and fairly amusing stunt, except for the whole near-death-experience thing.

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    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    Sweet, a 9-2X crossover!
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    Image of layabout layabout
    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    I was just thinking,what the world needs now is another SUV/soft-roader.
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    11/18/08

    In reply to GM Files Patents For Tribeca-Based Saab 9-6X, Tale Of The Saaburu Maybe Not Complete
    looks hot. Maybe.


    Saaburu! HOOOOOO!


    Whoever thought that was a good idea?

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    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    10/30/08

    In reply to 2010 Porsche Panamera Interior: Maverick Approved!
    yes yes yes, thats all well and good, but does it have a start button?
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