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    GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    06/10/09

    In reply to GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
    Spring Hill.


    /favoritism.

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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    06/10/09

    In reply to GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
    Oh no that is smart. Build your bread and butter compact economy car at only one plant. No that totally seems legit. But hey, as long as we've got every other plant churning out Suburbans and Silverados we're all good.


    Build it at the old Saturn Tennessee plant. That will create some sort of mildly humorous irony or deja vu or something.

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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    06/10/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: "Build it at the old Saturn Tennessee plant" -that's cold, man. cold.

    You haven't been around much, work getting in the way?
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    06/11/09

    @SlowMo -the anti-star: Hey, does anyone remember when Saturn was a "Different king of car company"? Heh, hehe.


    I've been busy with work mainly, yes.. Girls an' cars get in the way too.

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    Image of TexanIdiot25- needs moar horse powah TexanIdiot25- needs moar horse powah
    06/10/09

    In reply to GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
    Am I the only one who finds this car really ugly?
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/10/09

    In reply to GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
    Beautiful car.


    They should whore it out like the Audi A4.
    Offer a few different engines, drivetrains, and in the future, maybe a convertible.


    It could be a winner.

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    Image of e30m3 e30m3
    06/10/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: then quietly drop the V6?
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/10/09

    @e30m3: Wait- Audi dropped the V6?
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    Image of Danimal Danimal
    06/10/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: I don't think any car in this segment can touch the Cruze's looks.
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    Image of e30m3 e30m3
    06/10/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: they did, there was an article about it a while ago.

    [jalopnik.com]
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    Image of robot-shmobot robot-shmobot
    06/10/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: They can make the exterior pretty as they want, put the best most efficient engine they want in it, but unless they make an interior that doesn't just shout 'Dollar Store' when you get behind the wheel, you won't find me at a GM dealership, ever.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/10/09

    @Danimal: I think the Cruze is impressive looking.
    What I'm saying is give people an AWD option, possibly a convertible in the future, a performance version, etc.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/10/09

    @e30m3: Thank you. I forgot all about that.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/10/09

    @robot-shmobot: That's always been my problem with GM. The interiors. They appear to be improving though.
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    Image of combat chuck combat chuck
    06/10/09

    In reply to GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
    Can't they do a Junkyard Wars style contest between all-star members of the three plants? The first team to fully assemble a new Cruze from parts strewn randomly around the plant wins!
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/10/09

    @combat chuck: They're trying to build a Chevy, not a Chery.
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    Image of d3c509b aka Steve d3c509b aka Steve
    06/10/09

    @combat chuck: I was thinking the same thing. Only more aggressive...


    Perhaps some UFC style match pitting plant manager vs plant manager vs plant manager.


    Or perhaps a contest of "who can follow work instructions the closest"

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    Image of combat chuck combat chuck
    06/10/09

    @d3c509b aka Steve: Ooh, how about: the plant that successfully follows OSHA regs down to the last letter for a whole week wins. Wait, I bet that's impossible. And very boring.
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    06/10/09

    In reply to GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
    Can shareholders (read: us) vote on it?
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/10/09

    @bmoreDLJ: What the hell do you think this is, son? A democracy?
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    Image of Number_Six Number_Six
    06/10/09

    In reply to GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
    Does anyone else think this Cruze is taking way too long? It's a really nice car right now but by the time they make deals and get tooled up, it's going to be the car-world equivalent of the Grumman Bearcat (too late to the game to see meaningful action).
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/10/09

    @#6: Nice analogy.

    I am both a Grumman fan and a GM fan. We saw what happened with both.

    On the other hand, it does help explain why I am also a Red Sox fan.
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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    06/10/09

    In reply to GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
    Yeah, but where are they gonna get the engines from? Did they ever figure that one out?
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    Image of baldy_pm baldy_pm
    06/10/09

    @wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx:


    maybe this?:


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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/10/09

    @wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx: I thought they were using the turbo-four they had-
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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    06/10/09

    @baldy_pm: Isn't that what powers the Kia Soul?
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    Image of JeepyJayhawk JeepyJayhawk
    06/10/09

    In reply to GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
    Hilarity ensues in 3..2..1..
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    06/10/09

    @JeepyJayhawk: As long as Hillary doesn't ensue.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/10/09

    @bmoreDLJ: Indeed.

    I wouldn't mind if Hilary ensued, however.
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    Image of TexanIdiot25- needs moar horse powah TexanIdiot25- needs moar horse powah
    06/10/09

    @pauljones: Holy shit, she's changed a lot since Disney.
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    06/10/09

    @pauljones: I'd DUFF that all day.
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    Image of .357 .357
    06/10/09

    @TexanIdiot25- needs a edit buton... EDIT: Needs an edit but...: Same here.
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    Image of Matt Hardigree Matt Hardigree
    06/10/09

    @Gearhead_42: We added an update to make it clear.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/10/09

    In reply to GM Narrows Small Car Production To Three Plants
    Build them in all three for all I care.

    The sad part is that this is the car that GM really needs, not the Volt. A (hopefully) good, small, fuel-efficient car in this zeitgeist. This is the car that they need to be doing all the marketing hype on, because it is the car that will be more affordable, and thusly more accessible to the general populace.

    This is the car that is most likely to save GM.

    Despite all the shit that has gone down in the past few years, I'm still a fan, GM, but you really need to quit dicking around and build this car, and build it well.
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    Image of sos10 sos10
    06/10/09

    @pauljones: If they can sell it outside the US, it could help saving the company... if it is just for the US, then they might as well close shop now.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/10/09

    @sos10: I thought they already did sell it in Europe?

    I forget if it was MT, C&D, R&T, or Automobile, but one of them did a review of the Cruze in Europe. Maybe the car they reviewed was a prototype or pre-production car.
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    06/10/09

    @pauljones: The look of the Cruze is growing on me, and certainly style-wise it runs rings around anything Japanese (save the Lancer, IMO), but I fear it looks too "mean" to have wide mainstream appeal in the segment.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/10/09

    @bmoreDLJ: At some point, I would say that the looks are irrelevant, as long as the car is well-built and performs as Chevy has advertised.
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    Image of dalejrfanfreak dalejrfanfreak
    06/10/09

    @pauljones:


    The Cruze will be like the Camaro. Too little, too late. According to a Rasmussen poll only 6% of people see themselves as very likely to buy a GM car. Only 42% of current GM owners are likely to get another GM car. GM has imploded due to their reliance on government money.

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    06/10/09

    @dalejrfanfreak: Statistics can prove anything 95% percent of the time. I don't buy a Rasmussen poll as hard evidence.

    @dalejrfanfreak: You don't know that, and, frankly, neither do I. Time will tell.
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    Image of sos10 sos10
    06/10/09

    @pauljones: They do, but is it good enough for those markets? Do or will they actually sell, in decent numbers.
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