But seriously: "a more powerful feeling of acceleration" --I'd rather have more powerful acceleration. Wouldn't I be able to feel that? Is this some kind of gimmick? In a car that costs this much? Do the speakers play a "whoosh!" sound?
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I like the GT-R, let me get that out right away, but this is just stupidly overpriced.
This is for the collectors, few, if any, of these will actually be driven in anger, and I'm sure some will never be driven at all. The people actually looking for performance will buy the "base" GT-R and then tune it.
When you're in this price range and looking for a performance car there's the ZR-1, if you're looking for a drivers car there's the F430 or GT3, if you're looking for the best of all worlds at this price you could easily buy a nicely depreciated Phaeton and a 'Busa powered Se7en and still have enough for maintenance and track days.
@something_unique_and_descripti...: Considering the Se7en spanked almost all of them on the Top Gear board, if you're actually looking for a performance car, it's pretty much impossible to justify buying anything else at all.
Hmmm One month ago: I dont think the GT-R is special enough..
Now: Nah, I dont think the Purple Dinosaur GT-R Spec V is special enough either..
In 2 months: Id be happier with the GT-R Spec V, Special Race Edition (with the 50yr tribute to the company emblazoned on the seats), But I also want the Series A - Z edition, with the extra blah blah blah this thing can do, and I want it painted in Hello Kitty, with Paris fuckin Hilton's bloddy red seats as part of the package
I mena really.. how much more can ya stuff into this damn car!
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"This just in, ladies and gentlemen; in response to the release of the SpecV GT-R, Porsche has just held a press-conference, wherein they stated they are more than willing to paint your new 911 GT3 RS in, quote, "any fucking godawful colour you want for a hundred and sixty thousand!" They went on to wonder who in their right mind would be willing to pay that much money for a, quote, "fucking Datsun".
Another reporter raised a (somewhat valid, but we're not saying anything) point, asking if that wouldn't be comparable to the $100k price tag on the Volkswagen Phaeton, or the $1,300,000 price tag on the Bugatti Veyron, or the $1,400,000 price tag on the Reventon, all of which, in the words of the reporter, are "just as much a Volkswagen as the GT-R is a Datsun."
In response, the Porsche spokesman shot that reporter.
In other news, there was a similar press release in Detroit. Corvette engineers staged a media event wherein a similarly purple-painted ZR1 was parked outside a McDonald's. (Unconfirmed reports state that this is actually the Corvette headquarters, similar to the PorscheBunker and the DatsunDojo, but we are still investigating.) Parked beside it were several large trucks, loaded up with 57,000 items from the dollar menu. This was, they demonstrated, what you could also buy, instead of shelling out the cash for the GT-R. "And," said one engineer, "This Vette'll still whup the ass of that jap-junk piece of shit 'round any ring you wanna throw 'em at." Eloquent, to be sure, and also succinct.
At the end of the press conference, one reporter asked what would be done with all the 57,000 burgers they had on display. The spokesman gave the reporter a blank look, and replied, "Uh, lunch?"
Reporting live from a run-down McDonalds just outside of Detroit, I'm Stud Beefpile."
@Deartháir: A British newsreporter (an reported Porshe fanboy) sarcastically asked the Corvette engineer why americans always ended sentences prepositions?
The Corvette engineer apologized profusely and restated his sentence..."This Vette'll still whup the ass of that jap-junk piece of shit 'round any ring you wanna throw 'em at, bitches."
and, I intend to beat the living hell out of this old joke...
@CypressCarNut- My kind of HOPE is having money to CHANGE to...: Wasn't it Sir Winston Churchill who once stopped an American reporter in mid-interview with the line, "I'm sorry, my good man, but ending a sentence with a proposition is a grammatical error up with which I will not put."
@Deartháir: Yes, he did, not realizing the reporter could see past the bourbon and jowls to the lion heart beneath. Churchill, a man of the people, but always pushing them away.
I saw a regular GTR for the first time about a month ago, and I know most people won't be liking this comment but I for sure thought it was a 350Z with a body kit...so I took a picture and went online and then I figured it out. No surprise the guy driving it was at least 65 or 70.
I'd call that color "Shifting Prune Metallic". Or maybe not... The car actually looks good in that color, whatever you call it, pity they'll all be hooned to death before they get used enough to fit my budget.
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@superdude4agze: You know, I'm not a domestic car fan, but even I feel like I am always having to correct people. It deserves to be said that the Corvette ZR1 is the better car. Period.
@Deartháir: Well, GM's decision to stick with pushrods was clearly based on the impressive foresight that improvements in computerized engine management, reductions in the weight of reciprocating parts, and new developments in manufacturing and materials would ultimately make the basic approaches to valve actuation less significant than the technology behind it. I mean, it couldn't have been that they were trying to do it the cheapest way possible while using some half-assed concept of tradition as a smokescreen.
@theeastbaykid: You sound like a GT-R fanboy or more likely someone on the "hate domestics" bandwagon. It works. It kills the competition. It doesn't have any snobbishness. It is the sleeper of the supercars. If that isn't good for you, what is? You don't have to like it, but bashing something that works for not being the fanciest piece of shit on the street is just small.
@regalregalia: If I wanted to join the GTR fanboys, I would have said "pushrodz r teh suck," but alas, I guess I have to spell it out for those of us who fail to read between the lines. I'm saying GM got it right with the pushrods, but most likely for the aforementioned "blind squirrel" reasons. Think about it: The Corvette was way behind the Porsche 928 (to use an overhead-cam V8 example) back in the late 1970s and early 1980s. In fact, the smaller displacement, overhead-cam, straight-six BMW M6 had more power than a Corvette in 1988. But GM stuck with the pushrods. Now, engines like the LS7 and LS9 do just fine with pushrods, coming up on 30 years after DOHC designs became widespread. So you tell me, were they clairvoyant, or just cheap and then lucky?
@theeastbaykid: Personally, I'm voting "stubborn". I have to wonder if there was someone, way back when, who was insisting that they stay with pushrods for the right reasons. Because pushrods do have a number of very clear advantages.
Disclaimer: I, myself, prefer an OHC design, in anything but the new Chevy LSx engines. That said, I have to give Chevy credit.
Look, that pushrod engine has the distinct advantage that it can be broken down and rebuilt in, what, ten, fifteen minutes? The engine is an absolute dream to work on, and that's why they're so popular. They're also a small engine, and easy to fit almost everywhere, because of the fact that the cam is mounted inside the engine, rather than way out on the heads. This means they can stuff an LS9 in just about anything. Ask tenbeers, he has a collection of about 300 YouTube videos of all the random weird crap people have stuffed LSx engines into. They are great engines, it can't be said enough.
That said, however, I am completely with you. Was it luck? Was it phenomenal foresight unlike anything ever experienced in the automotive world before? Was it stubbornness combined with a thick-headed determination that it will BE a good engine whether it wants to or not? Or some combination of the above?
I'm neither a fanboy or a hater of any of the three greats that currently get bandied around. I think the 911 is ugly and going in the wrong direction. Engine goes at FRONT, or in middle, goddammit. I think the Vette is an incredible car, but tackier than Liberace. I think the GT-R is an amazing feat of computer programming, but not of car design. For my money, I would take a V10 Audi R8, ugly headlights be damned. BUT. I don't have a bias against any of them. I hate them all equally.
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/ancient pop culture reference
So is it a purple people eater?
/even older pop culture/sports reference
But seriously: "a more powerful feeling of acceleration" --I'd rather have more powerful acceleration. Wouldn't I be able to feel that? Is this some kind of gimmick? In a car that costs this much? Do the speakers play a "whoosh!" sound?
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This is for the collectors, few, if any, of these will actually be driven in anger, and I'm sure some will never be driven at all. The people actually looking for performance will buy the "base" GT-R and then tune it.
When you're in this price range and looking for a performance car there's the ZR-1, if you're looking for a drivers car there's the F430 or GT3, if you're looking for the best of all worlds at this price you could easily buy a nicely depreciated Phaeton and a 'Busa powered Se7en and still have enough for maintenance and track days.
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Goes quickly into the dawn
Warranty not valid
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purple coated warrior
from the land of nippon come
save the godzilla
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One month ago: I dont think the GT-R is special enough..
Now: Nah, I dont think the Purple Dinosaur GT-R Spec V is special enough either..
In 2 months: Id be happier with the GT-R Spec V, Special Race Edition (with the 50yr tribute to the company emblazoned on the seats), But I also want the Series A - Z edition, with the extra blah blah blah this thing can do, and I want it painted in Hello Kitty, with Paris fuckin Hilton's bloddy red seats as part of the package
I mena really.. how much more can ya stuff into this damn car!
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Boo-urns.
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Another reporter raised a (somewhat valid, but we're not saying anything) point, asking if that wouldn't be comparable to the $100k price tag on the Volkswagen Phaeton, or the $1,300,000 price tag on the Bugatti Veyron, or the $1,400,000 price tag on the Reventon, all of which, in the words of the reporter, are "just as much a Volkswagen as the GT-R is a Datsun."
In response, the Porsche spokesman shot that reporter.
In other news, there was a similar press release in Detroit. Corvette engineers staged a media event wherein a similarly purple-painted ZR1 was parked outside a McDonald's. (Unconfirmed reports state that this is actually the Corvette headquarters, similar to the PorscheBunker and the DatsunDojo, but we are still investigating.) Parked beside it were several large trucks, loaded up with 57,000 items from the dollar menu. This was, they demonstrated, what you could also buy, instead of shelling out the cash for the GT-R. "And," said one engineer, "This Vette'll still whup the ass of that jap-junk piece of shit 'round any ring you wanna throw 'em at." Eloquent, to be sure, and also succinct.
At the end of the press conference, one reporter asked what would be done with all the 57,000 burgers they had on display. The spokesman gave the reporter a blank look, and replied, "Uh, lunch?"
Reporting live from a run-down McDonalds just outside of Detroit, I'm Stud Beefpile."
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The Corvette engineer apologized profusely and restated his sentence..."This Vette'll still whup the ass of that jap-junk piece of shit 'round any ring you wanna throw 'em at, bitches."
and, I intend to beat the living hell out of this old joke...
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On another note, those have to be the worst wheels I have ever seen on a $160k car. They look like cheap.
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And this coming from a euro car snob.
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An apt analogy, although I prefer to give GM a little credit. I gotta admit, though, sometimes I wonder if it all isn't just blind luck.
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You sound like a GT-R fanboy or more likely someone on the "hate domestics" bandwagon. It works. It kills the competition. It doesn't have any snobbishness. It is the sleeper of the supercars. If that isn't good for you, what is? You don't have to like it, but bashing something that works for not being the fanciest piece of shit on the street is just small.
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Disclaimer: I, myself, prefer an OHC design, in anything but the new Chevy LSx engines. That said, I have to give Chevy credit.
Look, that pushrod engine has the distinct advantage that it can be broken down and rebuilt in, what, ten, fifteen minutes? The engine is an absolute dream to work on, and that's why they're so popular. They're also a small engine, and easy to fit almost everywhere, because of the fact that the cam is mounted inside the engine, rather than way out on the heads. This means they can stuff an LS9 in just about anything. Ask tenbeers, he has a collection of about 300 YouTube videos of all the random weird crap people have stuffed LSx engines into. They are great engines, it can't be said enough.
That said, however, I am completely with you. Was it luck? Was it phenomenal foresight unlike anything ever experienced in the automotive world before? Was it stubbornness combined with a thick-headed determination that it will BE a good engine whether it wants to or not? Or some combination of the above?
I'm neither a fanboy or a hater of any of the three greats that currently get bandied around. I think the 911 is ugly and going in the wrong direction. Engine goes at FRONT, or in middle, goddammit. I think the Vette is an incredible car, but tackier than Liberace. I think the GT-R is an amazing feat of computer programming, but not of car design. For my money, I would take a V10 Audi R8, ugly headlights be damned. BUT. I don't have a bias against any of them. I hate them all equally.
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