I just went out and saw the 747 today. I have a picture to prove it, but until I get home and free it from the confines of my camera you will just have to take my word for it.
@engineerd: Oh, and I saw the shuttle ferry plane (no, it's not gay) fly over the other day when they came back here. That is an amazing sight. I didn't have my camera, but here's a picture a buddy took the last time.
The shuttle is actually "flying" under aerodynamic load the entire time it is strapped up there. It's not like you're trying to launch it upward. All you have to do is gently dip down from beneath it, and the Shuttle keeps flying along like it has been the entire trip.
Boeing 747: Even older, but amazingly still pretty cool.
Space Shuttle + Boeing 747 taking off, flying, and landing while mated together: Almost defies comprehension.
Who the heck thought this up? You know, sitting around the table trying to figure out how to get a landed orbiter back to Florida: "I got it - just strap it to the back of a 747 and call it good."
@RedAlert: Keep in mind, the shuttle dates back to the Good Ol' Days at NASA. They came up with all sorts of crazy shit over the years. Any group of people that can get people to the moon and back safely, more than once, with less computing power than a modern phone can do anythink they want to within the laws of physics and their budget.
@Paul Y. don't drive too fast.: Very true...I have to keep reminding myself that the shuttle is somewhat a decendant of the still-born Air Force X-20 from the mid-1960's.
@Formerlythegreatestdriver: Sorry, I've got one day left here at KSC, so I went and did a little sightseeing (went to the Vehicle Assembly Bldg. and saw the Ares 1-X and out to the Shuttle Landing Facility and saw the 747 described above) as well as finishing up some paperwork so I can prove that I did do something this summer.
My uncle worked for MOOG and back in the '70s, he was responsible for building hydraulic steering actuators for the shuttle program (His mounted the nozzles on the SRBs, IIRC). Back in 1977, when they were first starting atmospheric flight tests of Enterprise by jettisoning it from the 747, I visited him at work and he sent me home with glossy photos of the combo in flight. I still have the photos.
The larger female lowers her ailerons to indicate receptiveness. The male mounts carefully, as not to spook her away. If she spurns him now, all of his efforts will have been for naught.
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Makes we want to drive around in a Suburban with a Nash Metropolitan on the roof. The process of getting it up there would no less fascinating, although infinitely more rednecky.
@bmoreDLJ: You're thinking in the wrong terms here. You probably have recently flown on a plane originally built in the 60's or 70's. The Space Shuttles were designed to fly 100 missions each which is more important than age in this case. With a planned 134 missions by the time the program comes to an end in 2010. Each Space Shuttle is far from their designed 100 flight lifespan.
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@engineerd: Oh, and I saw the shuttle ferry plane (no, it's not gay) fly over the other day when they came back here. That is an amazing sight. I didn't have my camera, but here's a picture a buddy took the last time.
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anyways, did anyone else have the lego set with the blue plane and the white shuttle that attached to each other circa 1995?
i still do, amazingg....
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It's not really that violent a maneuver.
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Hmmm.
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Boeing 747: Even older, but amazingly still pretty cool.
Space Shuttle + Boeing 747 taking off, flying, and landing while mated together: Almost defies comprehension.
Who the heck thought this up? You know, sitting around the table trying to figure out how to get a landed orbiter back to Florida: "I got it - just strap it to the back of a 747 and call it good."
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Where is he anyway? I thought he would be all over this post like a 16yr old teenage boy in a strip club.
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My uncle worked for MOOG and back in the '70s, he was responsible for building hydraulic steering actuators for the shuttle program (His mounted the nozzles on the SRBs, IIRC). Back in 1977, when they were first starting atmospheric flight tests of Enterprise by jettisoning it from the 747, I visited him at work and he sent me home with glossy photos of the combo in flight. I still have the photos.
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I sent in my idea...guess they just had a little more room in their budget.
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/a long way to go for a shuttlecock joke.
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Original dragon?
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Might make a fun LeMons penalty.
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Unfortunately, the Shuttle is almost as old as the Ford Panther platform, and really shouldn't be going into space anymore.
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Good point. For making me think about how many drinks it'd take for me to get on this plane with the Shuttle on it, heart-click.
Even though the Shuttle's wings are in the lift shadow of the 747's, you'd think it'd still screw with things something fierce.
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Corellian hooning.