That black plate is a crude fake.
First off, the 7 digit 1ABC234 format plates started in 1980. The yellow on black plates were issued in the ABC 123 format until 1969 for passenger plates then the yellow on blue with the 123 ABC format took over until they ran out in 1980.
The number 4MLU255 was issued in 2000.
The dies are wrong.
The real plate for the vehicle would look something like the image above.
The only question is when are Ponch and Jon going to pull the owner and give them a hefty ticket and possibly arrest the owner for forgery.
@Triborough: Good call. I knew something was up when i saw seven digits on the plate. Since the black plate on my '63 Rambler and blue plate on my '80 Datsun each have 6 digits, I was pretty sure there were shenanigans going on.
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@Mike the Dog: Remember this when looking for plate shenanigans:
The black plates and most of the blue plates had letters larger than the numbers. There are some blue plates from 1979-1980 with the letters the same size which started from 000 WLA to 999 ZZZ, since they were gearing up for the seven digit plates.
@Triborough: Also, the black plates (at least the early ones) have the year of issue stamped into the upper right corner where the year sticker goes. This is readily visible on the un-stickered front plate (which is conspicuously absent on this car).
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@Mike the Dog: Actually the black plates only had the first year of expiry 63 debossed in the right sticker well. They stopped with the sticker wells in 1993 with the "lipstick" plates which have YR and MO boxes screened in the reflective sheeting.
Ahem. The Dead Kennedys is hardly a 60s-era band. Shame on you. As penance, you shall now watch "Repo Man" three times, carefully soaking in the punk goodness.
Agreed, while listening to "California Uber Alles" over and over at high volume. He needs to soak in California punk goodness for this slight faux-pas.
Did Porsche originally offer a matte-red finish, or is that the work of California sunshine? I ask because sun-damage usually isn't so evenly spread-out.
@BRAWNDO_POWERED: My Volvo 240 has become much the same, actually: the top of the car (roof/hood/trunk) are slightly lighter than the quarter panels, though, so it's not a perfect fade. I think a good wash and wax would make it almost like new, though, because it's possible to semipermanently write on the finish with my fingers.
The LeSabre was among GM's first litter of downsized cars. Whereas the previous generation of big cars had decidedly baroque styling (amplified with those "Mae West," 5 mph bumpers), the first post-oil embargo Buicks were refreshingly clean, trim and even a bit European with wrap-around amber taillights and minimal chrome. Very unBuick-like, at least from the rear and side. Weirdly enough, Buick was briefly trying to switch with Oldsmobile to become the more "youth-oriented" brand.
Note that there's no sweepsphere along the sides; the big Buicks had started to share door sheetmetal with Oldsmobiles. Around this time GM was stepping up its efforts to cut costs and reduce divisional autonomy. That worked out well for them, no?
Remember when "Dallas" first began in the summer of 1979? Bobby drove a 450SL Benz, J.R. drove a 450SEL, but Ewing family patriarch Jock drove a Continental Mark V just like this one. He'd rather buy American luxury, not that kraut iron...
Poor Sue Ellen was stuck with an LTD wagon for the first few seasons, then got upgraded to a 380SEC after Pamela traded her Corvette for a Porsche 911. Cliff Barnes drove a shark-nose BMW 635i, if I recall...
As for the Lincoln: it needs a set of swangers, some kandy, and a fifth hangin' off the back, and then it would be good. fo' sho.
As for the Buick: I love the buick. So much potential for awesomeness. I had a friend with a an early eighties LeSabre with the 5.7L Diesel. Many people put down these 5.7L diesels, but his was proof that it was a good engine: 300k, started up everytime, and was smooth as silk. not much to write home about in the acceleration department, but still good.
@D-fktv: twice as defective with 2 followers!: From what I've read, the later 350 diesels had rectified most if not all of the earlier iterations' bugaboos. Too bad the damage was already done.
Please, please get pictures of a Ford Tempo or Mercury Topaz. I've been viewing Jalopnik for years, and ever since 1980s vehicles were deemed DOTS-worthy I have been hoping, praying that one day my beloved cars would be featured. I'll even settle for the original 1984/1985 models, which are a little more DOTS-worthy in terms of strangeness and oldness.
@Ford Tempo Fanatic: I shot a '78 Fairmont a while back but Murilee hasn't featured it.
If we ever see a Tempaz, it'll either be one of the first couple years (pre-Taurusish-restyle) or a 4wd model. If it's post-'90 everyone here will cry foul.
@F*ckingPlushroom: I might track down one of the many pre-1987 models (included several all wheel drives and a couple diesels), but unfortunately most are not in very desirable condition.
@F*ckingPlushroom: These things are true. I'd say 1/4 of the ones I see are in okay condition. I did see a fabulously awesome 1984 Topaz GS Sedan in MINT condition. Almost perfect, except the trunk was covered with decade old bumper stickers from the days of Reagan.
@Ford Tempo Fanatic: Didn't find an Tempos or Topazs when I was living down there, nor do there seem to be any around here by my folks, although there was a blue first gen Topaz sedan that lived around the corner when I was young.
@Upgrade to Tomsk Diamond today!: When I lived in the Lower 48 there didn't seem to be many Tempos or Topaz. All over in Canada and the U.S. though.
For the duration of their production they were the best selling sedans in Canada. There was even a rare model, called the L, sold primarily in Canada. Some made it into the States, but it was never advertised or mentioned in United States Ford literature or marketing items. L was a totally stripped down second generation Tempo, available in two and four door body styles. It was as basic as Tempo ever got, and the only model with standard steel, hub-cap-less wheels. I saw them all over in CA and captured many specimens on camera.
@A strolling player is: Gold Member!: 'Caminoized fourth-gen F-body? Ford Taurus wagon with a Lincoln 460 in the cargo area and Centerlines out back? Imported VW Golf estate with G60 Syncro AWD?
Some rulers, templates and a compass was all you needed to draw a malaise tank. Surprisingly they were much cleaner designs than the modern swap, swoop, edge and curve designs aka BMW.
Sheesh. The '84 MY of that LeSabre was my father's first halfway decent car, burgandy pillowtop seats and all.
Granted, that car lasted 190K miles on the OEM transmission, and the next owner had 220K on it last time it was spotted, but knowing GM build quality, a wrecker should be following at all times.
A good friend of mine had infinite access to a Mark IV, a '73 model, and man, could that 460 suck down some fuel.
I like malaise land-yachts...I just can't help it.
@sub-$3K luxury rides are expendable: my first real car was an '84 LeSabre... that thing was great.. only major issue was a broken tie-rod end... which luckily happened as i was backing out of a driveway... other than that.. i drove it happily from 60k to 120k my sophomore/junior/senior years of high school.. when i returned from my first semester of college i found it sitting on a commissioned sales lot.. it made me sad that mom & dad had decided to 'clear out' the driveway..
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The big fat new Porsches would surely shun him at the family reunion. He's like the Quaker grreat grandfather who's way too unhip and plain.
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That black plate is a crude fake.
First off, the 7 digit 1ABC234 format plates started in 1980. The yellow on black plates were issued in the ABC 123 format until 1969 for passenger plates then the yellow on blue with the 123 ABC format took over until they ran out in 1980.
The number 4MLU255 was issued in 2000.
The dies are wrong.
The real plate for the vehicle would look something like the image above.
The only question is when are Ponch and Jon going to pull the owner and give them a hefty ticket and possibly arrest the owner for forgery.
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The black plates and most of the blue plates had letters larger than the numbers. There are some blue plates from 1979-1980 with the letters the same size which started from 000 WLA to 999 ZZZ, since they were gearing up for the seven digit plates.
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Agreed, while listening to "California Uber Alles" over and over at high volume. He needs to soak in California punk goodness for this slight faux-pas.
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Note that there's no sweepsphere along the sides; the big Buicks had started to share door sheetmetal with Oldsmobiles. Around this time GM was stepping up its efforts to cut costs and reduce divisional autonomy. That worked out well for them, no?
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Poor Sue Ellen was stuck with an LTD wagon for the first few seasons, then got upgraded to a 380SEC after Pamela traded her Corvette for a Porsche 911. Cliff Barnes drove a shark-nose BMW 635i, if I recall...
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As for the Buick: I love the buick. So much potential for awesomeness. I had a friend with a an early eighties LeSabre with the 5.7L Diesel. Many people put down these 5.7L diesels, but his was proof that it was a good engine: 300k, started up everytime, and was smooth as silk. not much to write home about in the acceleration department, but still good.
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Please, please get pictures of a Ford Tempo or Mercury Topaz. I've been viewing Jalopnik for years, and ever since 1980s vehicles were deemed DOTS-worthy I have been hoping, praying that one day my beloved cars would be featured. I'll even settle for the original 1984/1985 models, which are a little more DOTS-worthy in terms of strangeness and oldness.
Thank you for your time.
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If we ever see a Tempaz, it'll either be one of the first couple years (pre-Taurusish-restyle) or a 4wd model. If it's post-'90 everyone here will cry foul.
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And by "most", I mean "any of 'em without 4wd, and some with".
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For the duration of their production they were the best selling sedans in Canada. There was even a rare model, called the L, sold primarily in Canada. Some made it into the States, but it was never advertised or mentioned in United States Ford literature or marketing items. L was a totally stripped down second generation Tempo, available in two and four door body styles. It was as basic as Tempo ever got, and the only model with standard steel, hub-cap-less wheels. I saw them all over in CA and captured many specimens on camera.
The more you know!
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Trust me.
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Inquiring minds and all that.
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Granted, that car lasted 190K miles on the OEM transmission, and the next owner had 220K on it last time it was spotted, but knowing GM build quality, a wrecker should be following at all times.
A good friend of mine had infinite access to a Mark IV, a '73 model, and man, could that 460 suck down some fuel.
I like malaise land-yachts...I just can't help it.
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