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    Smart ForTwo EV Going On Sale In UK, Testing In Other Euro Cities

    Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV

    Electric Smart Fortwo Undergoing Real-World Tests In London
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    Image of sos10 sos10
    06/22/09

    In reply to Smart ForTwo EV Going On Sale In UK, Testing In Other Euro Cities
    As so often, posts and comments only consider the wide wide USofA. I agree that a Smart is unnecessary in most US cityscapes, but this car is being tested in the UK, in London, where it makes perfectly sense, where the low top speed is more than you will ever need, where parking spots are few and small...
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    06/22/09

    In reply to Smart ForTwo EV Going On Sale In UK, Testing In Other Euro Cities
    I'm trying to remember which magazine said that instead of the bailout, we could buy every (think they said 17 and 18?)-year-old in America an electric car.


    They showed a line drawing of a Smart.


    I had half a mind to write in and bitch, bitch, bitch.


    But now I can't. Alas.

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    Image of Tucker589 is Hoarding James Dean's 550 Spyder Tucker589 is Hoarding James Dean's 550 Spyder
    06/22/09

    In reply to Smart ForTwo EV Going On Sale In UK, Testing In Other Euro Cities
    I almost rear-ended one of these little crapboxes at the home depot. It was parked in a spot between a minivan and a Dodge Compensator, I go to pull in at 20mph in true ricer fashion, and this asshole parks this lunchbox all the way up to the front of the space, giving the illusion that it was empty. I still managed to get my GALVENIZED screws, tho.
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    06/22/09

    @Tucker589: We're back to galvenizing again-
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    06/22/09

    In reply to Smart ForTwo EV Going On Sale In UK, Testing In Other Euro Cities
    I'm going to buy two of these, and race them around my living room.


    Maybe we can start an indoor racing series featuring Smart cars. I'd suggest a Tesla, but no one wants to play in imagination-land anymore.

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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    06/22/09

    In reply to Smart ForTwo EV Going On Sale In UK, Testing In Other Euro Cities
    I'm astounded every time I see someone driving a Smart in the US. It's ridiculously small, slow and goofy-looking, yet still costs $12k for the cheapest model and only gets 36 MPG combined.


    Pointless.

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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    06/22/09

    @FromaBuick6: There is definitely a market for cars of this size in cities like NY or SF, where 99% of someone's driving is in the city. As hard as it is to believe, parking is a huge inconvenience - many people would be willing to sacrifice the comfort of a larger vehicle for more convenient exterior dimensions. However, I agree about the price. If they can drop it to $10,000 or below, we'd see a lot more of these. At the current price, the Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris or Nissan Versa are more attractive alternatives.
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    Image of .357 .357
    06/22/09

    In reply to Smart ForTwo EV Going On Sale In UK, Testing In Other Euro Cities
    I'd rather have a golf cart than this overpriced and slow smart car.
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    Image of sciontc sciontc
    06/22/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: Why is it called a smart car if it looks so stupid?
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    06/22/09

    @sciontc: Smug factor.
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    Image of TR3-A TR3-A
    01/13/09

    In reply to Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV
    FOURTY-F**KING-NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED FOR THAT!!?? [sound of 60 year old man hitting the floor... hard]
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    Image of Matt Hardigree Matt Hardigree
    01/13/09

    @TR3-A: Ah, no it doesn't. Wherever does it read that?
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    01/13/09

    In reply to Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV
    A little pricey for an undersized smugmobile, don't you think?


    There are a bunch of the gasoline versions around Ann Arbor, but that shouldn't surprise anyone who's spent any time there.

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    Image of RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
    01/13/09

    In reply to Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV
    Well, that absurd pricing makes the Volt, even if it ends up being 40K, quite the bargain....not to mention every other car ever sold, barring the Veyron.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    01/13/09

    @rlj676-new job, same problems: I still think the Veyron is quite a bargain... consider it's being sold below cost.
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    01/13/09

    In reply to Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV
    A 50k electric Smart car? This is quite possibly the worst car...


    ...in the world.

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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    01/13/09

    In reply to Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV
    Tesla, the soon to be defunct vaporware electric car manufacturer. The company had so much promise, just handled so very badly.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    01/13/09

    In reply to Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV
    $49,900 FOR A SMART CAR? I didn't even notice that when I first read the post, that's insane. Besides being electric what else does it come with. It better have automatic ball washers, blonde ones,-----------you know like the carts at the golf course charity events.
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    01/13/09

    In reply to Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV
    So it's a half price Tesla roadster with a Mercedes warranty. If it has decent city performance (which it should with an electric motor), it could be successful.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/13/09

    In reply to Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV
    This is shocking!


    How bad is Tesla's financial problems? If they are going to save their company by building 1,000 battery packs they are either only a couple million from solvency or those are going to be some damn expensive batteries.

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    01/13/09

    @engineerd: Wow, the grammar gods were not good to me on that one.


    How bad ARE Tesla's financial problems?

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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    01/13/09

    @engineerd: Actually, since "Tesla's" is the possessive form of a singular noun, "is" is appropriate.


    [/pedantry]

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/13/09

    @Mike the Dog: I guess you're right. My blood caffeine level must have dropped too low.
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    01/13/09

    @engineerd: No, wait, "problems" is plural, therefore "are" is appropriate.
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    01/13/09

    @engineerd: Um, DUH! You are, of course, correct. I think MY blood caffeine level is a bit low.
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    Image of gravit8...drives with the lights on gravit8...drives with the lights on
    01/13/09

    @engineerd: To answer the question...


    I imagine having actual orders, outside of their direct need, for other customers, etc., would drive the manufacturing costs down enough so that they could then turn a profit on their own cars.


    It would also help iron out all the supply and engineering issues, spreading the R&D cost around more units. Initial costs for Tesla would then be lower, leading to a higher margin, etc.


    At the very least they might make back some of the millions they've dropped on their own car already, even if it flops and they can't move any.

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/13/09

    @Mike the Dog: No problem. Stupid, overly-complex English language!
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    01/13/09

    @323beater: I agree with you on spreading out the R&D costs, but at only 1,000 units they aren't going to get very much on the economies of scale.
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    Image of tekamul tekamul
    01/13/09

    In reply to Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV
    I'd much rather see them put a supercharged Toyota 2ZZ-GE in there.

    And a wheelie bar, of course.
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    Image of tekamul tekamul
    01/13/09

    @tekamul: Whoa!! $50k!?! It better come in the pickup bed of a F250 for that much dough....
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    01/13/09

    @tekamul: and they should throw in a scooter too.
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